Western Australia reloading components storage

[Daddybang]

so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????

Yep.

Could be an apocryphal "WA-is-crazy" story we in the eastern States hear, but is it the case that if you're shooting in WA with a mate who is using a different calibre to the one you're licensed, picking up one of their brass would mean committing an offence?

I mean, I wouldn't surprise.me lol

Yep if you have brass in your possession and don't have a license fora rifle in that cal/chambering then you CAN be charged(not saying you will be but you can be) unless ya have a collectors license.

[bladeracer]

so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????

Yes, if WA allows you to store ammo in the bolt compartment within your safe. It is not an ammo compartment. Some states allow us to keep ammo in there despite the law saying otherwise - Vic for example. I don't recommend doing so though as they could change their mind at any time.

[bladeracer]

It is my understanding that even a spent 22 rimfire case (never mind that it can't be re-loaded) is considered to be "ammunition".
On ya, WA. Your servants and their minions write this stuff and enact into the statutes of your fun loving state.
You'll never find me there.

Empty brass needs to be drilled or made unusable in some way to be legally possessed by a person that does not have a licence for that specific cartridge.
Same with bullets, but I'm unsure about whether they count spent bullets as components still.

[Gaznazdiak]

so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????

Yes, if WA allows you to store ammo in the bolt compartment within your safe. It is not an ammo compartment. Some states allow us to keep ammo in there despite the law saying otherwise - Vic for example. I don't recommend doing so though as they could change their mind at any time.

Yes, that's the regulation in NSW, as below from the police website:

"What are the storage requirements in relation to ammunition? Firearms Registry
Ammunition must be stored in a locked container, separate from the firearms -
sections 40 (1)(d) & 41(1)(c) of the Act. The ammunition storage may be
separate altogether, or may be a separate locked compartment or receptacle
within the firearms safe storage receptacle or safe."

[TigerPigeon]

Yes, it is all deemed ammo.

Powder, primers, bass and projectiles need to be stored as per the safe storage requirements. Which actually contradicts the Dangerous goods act when it comes to powder.

But them's the rules...

I know i'm a bit late to this one, i'm just looking over some old legislation as i'm doing a renovation at my home.

To quote Regulation 11A. (3A) of the Firearms Regulations Act; Subregulation (2) does not apply to propellant unless it is incorporated in a cartridge. This is designed so as not to contradict the Dangerous Goods Act.

By exclusion, this would apply to all other components for ammunition. However, this very specific mention of propellant exclusion allows storage of powder in accordance with the dangerous goods act. Much more practical for large containers.

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[NorthWester]

I may be wrong, but looking at the 2022 amendment posted on another thread here, it appears that the cases are no longer treated as ammunition. Hopefully some commonsense added...

Section 4 amended
(1) In section 4 delete the definitions of:
ammunition
firearm
handgun
possession
(2) In section 4 insert in alphabetical order:
ammunition —
(a) means anything made or modified specifically
for discharge from a firearm; and
(b) includes the following —
(i) a cartridge, projectile, primer or
propellant made or modified specifically
for use in manufacturing something
described in paragraph (a);
Firearms Amendment Act 2022
Part 2 Firearms Act 1973 amended
s. 6

(ii) any other prescribed thing;
but
(c) does not include any of the following —
(i) ammunition rendered inoperative;
(ii) an inert cartridge, dummy round or drill
round that does not contain primer,
propellant or explosive charge;
(iii) a prescribed paintball pellet;
(iv) a spent primer;
(v) a spent casing, whether or not it can be
reused;
(vi) any other prescribed thing;

[Oldbloke]

Well on the other thread they are saying it's no longer legal to reload ammunition.

viewtopic.php?f=81&t=16164&start=120

[bladeracer]

I don't believe brass ever was as it is not discharged from a firearm.

I may be wrong, but looking at the 2022 amendment posted on another thread here, it appears that the cases are no longer treated as ammunition. Hopefully some commonsense added...

Section 4 amended
(1) In section 4 delete the definitions of:
ammunition
firearm
handgun
possession
(2) In section 4 insert in alphabetical order:
ammunition —
(a) means anything made or modified specifically
for discharge from a firearm; and
(b) includes the following —
(i) a cartridge, projectile, primer or
propellant made or modified specifically
for use in manufacturing something
described in paragraph (a);
Firearms Amendment Act 2022
Part 2 Firearms Act 1973 amended
s. 6

(ii) any other prescribed thing;
but
(c) does not include any of the following —
(i) ammunition rendered inoperative;
(ii) an inert cartridge, dummy round or drill
round that does not contain primer,
propellant or explosive charge;
(iii) a prescribed paintball pellet;
(iv) a spent primer;
(v) a spent casing, whether or not it can be
reused;
(vi) any other prescribed thing;