Westralia, proving it can always get worse

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Re: Westralia, proving it can always get worse

Post by Oldbloke » 04 Mar 2023, 8:15 pm

Police State! That's a bit harsh. I think police state is a long bow

WA, well, they could be headed in that direction. But not the rest. But there have been concerns,. We are still a democracy, a police state is not.

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Post by womble » 05 Mar 2023, 4:53 am

I disagree.
And this legislation is case in point. The police are making the laws.
Therefore the police govern.
There’s no democratic process involved.

Technically in a police state the executive makes the laws and uses the police to govern.
We’re a step past that.

:unknown: I guess we just keep going until we have one police each.
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Re: Westralia, proving it can always get worse

Post by Oldbloke » 05 Mar 2023, 11:21 am

womble wrote:I disagree.
And this legislation is case in point. The police are making the laws.
Therefore the police govern.
There’s no democratic process involved.

Technically in a police state the executive makes the laws and uses the police to govern.
We’re a step past that.

:unknown: I guess we just keep going until we have one police each.


Umm, are you saying WA? Or the whole country?
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Re: Westralia, proving it can always get worse

Post by animalpest » 05 Mar 2023, 12:34 pm

womble wrote:I disagree.
And this legislation is case in point. The police are making the laws.
Therefore the police govern.
There’s no democratic process involved.

Technically in a police state the executive makes the laws and uses the police to govern.
We’re a step past that.

:unknown: I guess we just keep going until we have one police each.


No, the Police are recommending the law changes to the Minister. Parliament change the Act. As per our democratic system.
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Re: Westralia, proving it can always get worse

Post by Oldbloke » 05 Mar 2023, 4:52 pm

animalpest wrote:
womble wrote:I disagree.
And this legislation is case in point. The police are making the laws.
Therefore the police govern.
There’s no democratic process involved.

Technically in a police state the executive makes the laws and uses the police to govern.
We’re a step past that.

:unknown: I guess we just keep going until we have one police each.


No, the Police are recommending the law changes to the Minister. Parliament change the Act. As per our democratic system.


Agree. That's how it has worked for yonks. Same with all departments/ministries.
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Re: Westralia, proving it can always get worse

Post by Boundry Rider » 06 Mar 2023, 11:48 am

No parliamentary debate, no amendments accepted (repeatedly voted down), no public consultation, questionable tactics regarding the stakeholder consultation process, and no submission to any parliamentary committees.

Stretching democratic process in my book.
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Post by animalpest » 06 Mar 2023, 7:25 pm

Generally amendments are accepted to get it through both houses. In this case Labour have clear control of both houses.

Funny that Labour won the last election with a massive landslide, yet nobody seems to have voted for them :allegedly:
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Re: Westralia, proving it can always get worse

Post by Tomotron » 13 Mar 2023, 11:07 pm

WA government at it again with their war against LAFOs.

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