WA Firearm Law Reforms - Monday 16 October announcement

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Post by Oldbloke » 06 Nov 2023, 7:37 am

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Dess787 wrote:Why are we bickering amongst ourselves ?


Not really. 95% agree its crap. Just 1 or 2 non-shooters think what Papalia is doing is ok.


You have a comprehension problem.
No one thinks it’s ok.
Much time and effort has been put it to explain that what Papalia is doing is legitimate and therefore not wrong.
No one likes it or agrees with it, but he’s not in the wrong. And we have no recourse.
If you don’t want to understand what you’re up against then how do you plan to overcome it.


Sorry Womble, i dont agree. It may be lawful for him/them to do it. Doesnt make it right.
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Post by Dess787 » 06 Nov 2023, 7:43 am

Time for Paps to crack down on knives, all knives, kitchen knives etc lol

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Paramedics are being called out to a stabbing every day in WA, new St John WA figures show
Phil HickeyThe West Australian
Mon, 6 November 2023 2:00AM
Paramedics are being called out to a stabbing every day in WA, prompting fears the State is in the grip of a knife and bladed weapon crime crisis.
Paramedics are being called out to a stabbing every day in WA, prompting fears the State is in the grip of a knife and bladed weapon crime crisis. Credit: The West Australian

Paramedics are being called out to a stabbing attack every day in WA, fuelling fears the State is in the grip of a knife-crime crisis.

New figures obtained exclusively by The West Australian show ambulance crews attended to almost 400 stabbing cases last year — an average of more than one a day.

The new figures have been seized upon by the State Opposition who claim the “alarming” statistics show Perth is in the midst of a violent crime “explosion.”

It comes as homicide squad detectives grapple with a string of sudden deaths and alleged murders across WA.

The statistics given to The West by St John WA show paramedics attended to 399 cases listed as “trauma stabbing” in 2022.
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The year prior to that there were 374 such cases and there were 371 in 2020.

The latest up to date figures show St John WA crews have attended to 321 stabbing cases so far this year.
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The bulk of the stabbing cases since 2020 have involved men, with about half of those aged between 20-39.

Two-thirds of all the patients needed to be taken to hospital.

Opposition police spokesman Peter Collier said the stabbing figures were a sign that violent crime in Perth had “exploded.”

Mr Collier also used the figures to claim the Cook Government was being “deceptive” in their assessment that crime in the State was dropping.

“These figures on stabbings are alarming and they reflect the massive increase in crimes against the person over recent years,” Mr Collier said.
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Opposition police spokesman Peter Collier said the stabbing figures were a sign that violent crime in Perth had ‘exploded.’ Credit: Kelsey Reid/The West Australian

“The Labor government have been deceptive in their appraisal of crime throughout the State, claiming that there has been an overall decline.

“The reality is that violent crime and domestic violence has exploded over the past three years.”

It comes as The West recently revealed stab-proof vests and body-worn cameras would be rolled out to ambulance crews across WA to protect frontline workers from acts of violence and aggression.

A six-month trial of the vests and cameras started on September 27, with almost 200 ambulance workers volunteering to test the equipment in metropolitan and country locations.

St John WA chief emergency officer Brendon Brodie-Hall said this week the agency was committed to protecting its staff from “increasing incidents of violence and aggression.”
Perth man Atbin Razavianroudbarden was allegedly murdered in a brutal machete attack at a northern suburbs petrol station.
Perth man Atbin Razavianroudbarden was allegedly murdered in a brutal machete attack at a northern suburbs petrol station. Credit: Facebook/Facebook

“Any incident involving weapons and or violence in the community is of course concerning and this concern extends to our front-line crews attending such cases,” Mr Brodie-Hall said.

In response to Mr Collier’s claims, Police Minister Paul Papalia said his government took a tough approach to make our community safer.
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“We have more police than ever before and we are growing police numbers even more with over 1600 local applicants and over 1400 experienced overseas officers applying to join,” the minister said.

“The Western Australia Police Force is achieving incredible rapid response times and arrest rates thanks to the State Operation Command Centre linked with on ground police assets like the Rapid Apprehension Squad.”
James Sheehy was allegedly stabbed to death by his girlfriend Lauren Vivian Brown.
James Sheehy was allegedly stabbed to death by his girlfriend Lauren Vivian Brown. Credit: Linkedin/Linkedin

Official WA Police figures show that “crimes against the person” — which includes assaults, robberies and sexual offences — jumped considerably last financial year with 62,363 cases recorded across WA.

There were 54,764 cases in 2021-22 and just over 53,000 the financial year prior to that.

An analysis by The West of recent suspected homicides and serious assault cases show many of the alleged murders and serious assaults that have happened in Perth in recent weeks and months have been stabbing related.
Friends of the man allegedly fatally stabbed by his partner say he ‘didn’t have an angry bone in his body’.
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They include the tragic alleged murder of a 29-year-old man who was found with horrific stab wounds in a Rivervale park on October 21, which has led to three men now facing murder charges.

Last month, police charged 21-year-old Northam man Glen Boyce with murder over the death of Zachary Bevilaqua in Woodbridge, after he too was stabbed with a sharp object.
Last month, police charged 21-year-old Northam man Glen Boyce with murder over the death of Zachary Bevilaqua in Woodbridge, after he too was stabbed with a sharp object.
Last month, police charged 21-year-old Northam man Glen Boyce with murder over the death of Zachary Bevilaqua in Woodbridge, after he too was stabbed with a sharp object. Credit: Supplied/Supplied

Former bikie Peter “Fuzzy” Godfree was also stabbed during an alleged home invasion in Perth’s southern suburbs in September.

Mr Godfree – who was once a leading figure in the United Motorcycle Council of WA - survived the attack.
Former bikie Peter ‘Fuzzy’ Godfree was also stabbed during an alleged home invasion in Perth’s southern suburbs in September.
Former bikie Peter ‘Fuzzy’ Godfree was also stabbed during an alleged home invasion in Perth’s southern suburbs in September. Credit: Mogens Johansen/WA News

On Monday, The West reported how a sudden spike in alleged murders and sudden deaths had left WA Police’s homicide squad run off their feet, with extra officers pulled off their usual beats to help out.

This week the squad was called out to at least four sudden deaths, including two alleged murders.
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Post by womble » 06 Nov 2023, 8:26 am

That's their answer. Just add more police.
Victoria has more than any other state.
If you are being stabbed just call the police.
Will be an effective strategy when we inevitably have one police each
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Post by alexjones » 06 Nov 2023, 9:01 am

400 stabbings a year in WA? How does that compare to population size, elsewhere in the developed world and to historical trends in WA?

I think you will find that number to be very low. Crime will always exist, bad people will always exist. Government needs to keep its boot off the good peoples neck and remember they work for the tax payer, we don't work for them.
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Post by womble » 06 Nov 2023, 11:45 am

Relatively stab friendly looking at a world map.
The most stabby countries would be Russia, US deep south, South America and then if we glance on over to the southern tip of Africa it's pretty much a national pastime.
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Post by mchughcb » 06 Nov 2023, 12:22 pm

Gun crisis, knife crisis, housing crisis, bikie crisis, energy crisis, water crisis, cultural heritage law crisis.

The only crisis WA has a media news crisis because the place is so bloody boring. Same old worn out hags on the news that were there 30 years ago. Time for some new talent.
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Post by Dess787 » 06 Nov 2023, 5:03 pm

And of course, the cop who rapes

https://thewest.com.au/news/court-justi ... c-12456020

Western Australia’s highest court has ruled that the jury who were forced to watch the sickening crimes of sadistic ex-police officer Adrian Moore were not biased against him — even though they asked for mid-trial counselling to cope with the harrowing footage of his multiple rapes.

Earlier this year, Moore was told he would spend the next 30 years in prison — the longest-ever jail term for a WA sex offender — after a jury convicted him of drugging and raping 13 women over a sickening 12-year sex crime spree.

Moore was found guilty of 87 different sex crimes after a harrowing trial, where the victims were forced to watch themselves being abused on the videos Moore had made.
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Post by Oldbloke » 06 Nov 2023, 8:20 pm

Announcement

Due to the sickening sex crimes of a WA police officer the following new laws will now be passed that require all WA police to now:

Apply for a licence to have sex.
Restrict sex to 5 times a year
Sex will require written permisssion on each occassion in the form of a statutory decloration.
The bed owner will be required to provide written permisssion on each occassion in the form of a statutory decloration.
Have an annual mental health checks.
Annual blood tests.
Only permitted sex from 25 to 45years
Sex toys for police to be registered with a cost of $100 for each toy.
2 sex toys per licenced policeman/woman/officers only.
Toys to be restricted to permitted types only.
Sex toys must be stored in a safe to prevent theft by unlicenced policeMen/women/officers.
Policemen/women/officers that have views or opinions that are not inline with the police ministry shall have all sex licences cancelled and all sex toys or erotic clothing confiscated.

If these new laws do not result in a significant reduction in sex crimes within 2 years they will be extended to the general population.

Exemption to the above are granted to;
ALP politicians
Mates of the above.
Multi millionairs that are given approval by ALP politicians.

Penalties will be stiff.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: sound familiar?
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Post by Oldbloke » 06 Nov 2023, 9:00 pm

News flash

The commissioner of police consulted with someone on faceache. (Consultation is required) And he/she/it agreed the above laws should be implimented immediately to the general public.

Laws were rammed through (or is that in?) at 1 am this morning.

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Post by 1886 » 09 Nov 2023, 11:57 am

For personal use in WA they must meet the requirements just like everybody else, eg properties for hunting. club shooting etc and be licenced accordingly.
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Nov 2023, 1:04 pm

1886 wrote:For personal use in WA they must meet the requirements just like everybody else, eg properties for hunting. club shooting etc and be licenced accordingly.


Assuming you are responding to my comment, yes, when they are not on duty as Police officers then they would require a licence like anybody else, when acting in their duty they do not. Military is the same.
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Post by Tomotron » 09 Nov 2023, 1:35 pm

bladeracer wrote:
1886 wrote:For personal use in WA they must meet the requirements just like everybody else, eg properties for hunting. club shooting etc and be licenced accordingly.


Assuming you are responding to my comment, yes, when they are not on duty as Police officers then they would require a licence like anybody else, when acting in their duty they do not. Military is the same.

I'm pretty sure NSW allows off-duty cops to keep their Glocks at home without any additional restrictions.
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Post by alexjones » 09 Nov 2023, 1:41 pm

Correct. Commonwealth and state/territory police, as well as military are exempt from needing a firearms licence whilst in the performance of their duties.

When the police did my safe inspection old mate was complaining that he needed to go through the nearly year long hassle to get a pistol licence even though he carries one every day. I told him "you are not special, if we all have to then so do you". He wasn't happy haha.
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Post by bluehorse » 09 Nov 2023, 8:28 pm

I read a little about proposed W A changes to gun laws . Obviously the proposer has an agenda . Is he a hater of people who choose to live away from cities . Does he have any understanding of what he is proposing ??
Well I think its total drivel. .
5 rifles indeed . Does anyone dictate to a tradesman how many tools he has in his toolbox . For a shooter especially a professional every rifle or firearm has a particular role to play not to mention some that u dont use because you just dont like it .
Anyway to put the 5 firearm in perspective , single barrel shotgun for vermin and snakes if necessary. An old double barrel 12 gauge for scaring away vermin destroying crops . It is longbarreled and full choke on 1 barrel handy for reaching out a little further . Then pea rifle from the phillipines I never liked and pea rifle from sportco that is handy for doing what u do with a useless pea rifle . . 22hornet because its quiet and wont upset the neighbors . Handy enough for foxes and dogs trying to pinch the chooks . .
I have an old 222 788 that I bought 1time before hornet and roo shooting guns because I have a licence to do it . Ilike my 243 but need spares too so Ihave 3 . Then Idecided to try a 223 with heavy barrel and itshoots well so I added a 308 to get some vermin wild pigs too . 308 hits harder than 243 so itis necessary but heavy to use so Ihave a 270 sporter to carry toofor the occasional use . So much lighter to carry .
Hmmmm I have really blown the 5 firearm nonsensical theory out the window and I havent got started as yet . What happens to older rifles that were favourites and need new barrels . so they can be away for ages to get a barrel
I am just 1 of many Australians who had rifles long before PT Arthur .
We didnt need licences then but I was always aware that military style weapons had no place in civilian hands BUT the politicians were asleep at the wheel then ..
Now we have this crazy push to take away rifles from people who value them .
Every rifle and gun has a use just like a tradesmans tools .
Now we arrive at 2023 wild pigs out of control , Brumbies destroying the Snowy and do gooders trying to change our way of life .
Total nonsense and for people in the bush who need their firearms gun control makes little sense especially when city dwellers have so many and also pistols . Some people in the bush do struggle with paperwork too and the paperwork gets to be a nightmare .for them so many now dont even have a 22 for using because of the paperwork. SO now the country fills up with feral dogs and cats so much faster than it did .
Gun control makes sense to those city dwellers so let them have gun control in cities . BUT leave the bush alone . .
5 guns indeed !! how bloody stupid . IT makes sense to some . But for people who think and knew what life before gun control happened the divide between city and bush increases dramatically .
How in hell can the wild pigs and vermin feral cats ,foxes , etc be controlled with prevailing attitudes ofcity dwellers and also the greenies ,animal liberationists . AND then internationals trying to kill off the kangaroo industry ' Not only are they not from the bush they are not from this country and want to stick their cheeky noses in the internal affairs of Australia. . They f***ed up their own country and now want to f*** Australia too .
So many ignorant of reality voices all wanting 2 bobs worth and politicians kissing the arses of anti gun lobby who have their own arrogant opinions not backed up by reality .
They take the guns away and those hell bent on murder will use other ways . I dont want Australia to turn into another USA but with the increased push for gun control then there is blowback .
Australians living awayfrom cities have always been good citizens in the main but the increased push for more controls over the bush does make all country people wonder if we live in another country ?? Ofcourse we dont !! Country is the BACKBONE of Australia . SO take your politicking elsewhere .
What a HALFWIT idea to limit the total number of firearms . IT just shows how little their knowledge is .. It defies logic .
Put that in your pipe and smoke it .
. Anyway I get my sporter 223next week in the mail . I have lost count of the number of centrefires but every 1 has its use and specific purpose .
The anti gun lobby wants to wake up to the fact that our country needs proper rational management . Hysterical emotional outburst form the ANTI everything lobby is not winning any friends . You will eventually be seen for what you are .
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Post by animalpest » 10 Nov 2023, 3:08 pm

bluehorse wrote:I read a little about proposed W A changes to gun laws . Obviously the proposer has an agenda . Is he a hater of people who choose to live away from cities . Does he have any understanding of what he is proposing ??
Well I think its total drivel. .
5 rifles indeed . Does anyone dictate to a tradesman how many tools he has in his toolbox . For a shooter especially a professional every rifle or firearm has a particular role to play not to mention some that u dont use because you just dont like it .
Anyway to put the 5 firearm in perspective , single barrel shotgun for vermin and snakes if necessary. An old double barrel 12 gauge for scaring away vermin destroying crops . It is longbarreled and full choke on 1 barrel handy for reaching out a little further . Then pea rifle from the phillipines I never liked and pea rifle from sportco that is handy for doing what u do with a useless pea rifle . . 22hornet because its quiet and wont upset the neighbors . Handy enough for foxes and dogs trying to pinch the chooks . .
I have an old 222 788 that I bought 1time before hornet and roo shooting guns because I have a licence to do it . Ilike my 243 but need spares too so Ihave 3 . Then Idecided to try a 223 with heavy barrel and itshoots well so I added a 308 to get some vermin wild pigs too . 308 hits harder than 243 so itis necessary but heavy to use so Ihave a 270 sporter to carry toofor the occasional use . So much lighter to carry .
Hmmmm I have really blown the 5 firearm nonsensical theory out the window and I havent got started as yet . What happens to older rifles that were favourites and need new barrels . so they can be away for ages to get a barrel
I am just 1 of many Australians who had rifles long before PT Arthur .
We didnt need licences then but I was always aware that military style weapons had no place in civilian hands BUT the politicians were asleep at the wheel then ..
Now we have this crazy push to take away rifles from people who value them .
Every rifle and gun has a use just like a tradesmans tools .
Now we arrive at 2023 wild pigs out of control , Brumbies destroying the Snowy and do gooders trying to change our way of life .
Total nonsense and for people in the bush who need their firearms gun control makes little sense especially when city dwellers have so many and also pistols . Some people in the bush do struggle with paperwork too and the paperwork gets to be a nightmare .for them so many now dont even have a 22 for using because of the paperwork. SO now the country fills up with feral dogs and cats so much faster than it did .
Gun control makes sense to those city dwellers so let them have gun control in cities . BUT leave the bush alone . .
5 guns indeed !! how bloody stupid . IT makes sense to some . But for people who think and knew what life before gun control happened the divide between city and bush increases dramatically .
How in hell can the wild pigs and vermin feral cats ,foxes , etc be controlled with prevailing attitudes ofcity dwellers and also the greenies ,animal liberationists . AND then internationals trying to kill off the kangaroo industry ' Not only are they not from the bush they are not from this country and want to stick their cheeky noses in the internal affairs of Australia. . They f***ed up their own country and now want to f*** Australia too .
So many ignorant of reality voices all wanting 2 bobs worth and politicians kissing the arses of anti gun lobby who have their own arrogant opinions not backed up by reality .
They take the guns away and those hell bent on murder will use other ways . I dont want Australia to turn into another USA but with the increased push for gun control then there is blowback .
Australians living awayfrom cities have always been good citizens in the main but the increased push for more controls over the bush does make all country people wonder if we live in another country ?? Ofcourse we dont !! Country is the BACKBONE of Australia . SO take your politicking elsewhere .
What a HALFWIT idea to limit the total number of firearms . IT just shows how little their knowledge is .. It defies logic .
Put that in your pipe and smoke it .
. Anyway I get my sporter 223next week in the mail . I have lost count of the number of centrefires but every 1 has its use and specific purpose .
The anti gun lobby wants to wake up to the fact that our country needs proper rational management . Hysterical emotional outburst form the ANTI everything lobby is not winning any friends . You will eventually be seen for what you are .


If you are a professional, or a "tradesman" then the 5 gun limit may not apply to you. And farmers can have up to 10 firearms. If you can justify them.
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Post by alexjones » 10 Nov 2023, 3:30 pm

I hope everyone in WA joins a collector society and gets a collector licence at least. It would be a way to stick it to the commie government to see a thousand percent increase in licences as you can have unlimited firearms on such licence.
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Post by niteowl » 10 Nov 2023, 3:59 pm

alexjones wrote:I hope everyone in WA joins a collector society and gets a collector licence at least. It would be a way to stick it to the commie government to see a thousand percent increase in licences as you can have unlimited firearms on such licence.

Yeh but you can't "use em"
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Post by bladeracer » 10 Nov 2023, 6:03 pm

alexjones wrote:I hope everyone in WA joins a collector society and gets a collector licence at least. It would be a way to stick it to the commie government to see a thousand percent increase in licences as you can have unlimited firearms on such licence.


You can never actually fire a firearm held on a collectors licence in WA though, can't even possess ammo for them.
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Post by bladeracer » 10 Nov 2023, 9:19 pm

Fionn wrote:Second, there is nothing in the new laws about size of property need for certain firearms.


Equally, there has been no mention of removing the current requirement though.
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Post by Faedy » 10 Nov 2023, 9:23 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Fionn wrote:Second, there is nothing in the new laws about size of property need for certain firearms.


Equally, there has been no mention of removing the current requirement though.

Plus they are discussing checking each property for suitability...
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Post by womble » 11 Nov 2023, 2:56 am

It might if you can demonstrate to the attending officers that you can’t shoot accurately and rely on the 308 scaring the rabbits of your property.

Or it might not. It might fail the attitude test. It might even see you carted away in a divvy van. Really depends just how far your demonstration escalates.
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Post by 1886 » 11 Nov 2023, 3:45 pm

Fionn wrote:.......Second, there is nothing in the new laws about size of property need for certain firearms.

Umm that's because it's always been a WAPOL BS "policy" and it still counts. It's WAPOL's method to make their own laws outside of the LAWS.
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Post by Bazz » 14 Nov 2023, 3:11 pm

Well it's D Day so to speak over here. Submissions close for feedback today, the petition which had over 12,600 signatures is now returning an error page not found message within the last hour:

https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/Parlia ... ns/23-0038?

Looks like they were not going to extend the consultation period anyway. Stay tuned for more positive news.......

Edit - My bad, as it closed it appears the petition moved to a different address
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Post by Oldbloke » 14 Nov 2023, 8:02 pm

Not many would have bothered. It was obvious the so called "consulation" that was offered was fake.
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Post by 1886 » 14 Nov 2023, 10:53 pm

Exactly

Word is that the various bodies consultation supposed to have taken place with were all absolutely blindside by the now proposed firearm limits along with some property proposals and are not happy there was zero mention at any meetings.

Typical Labor Government interprets consultation as just a word. Might only be scuttlebutt but it has also been suggested that the East is watching as to how this transpires !!!!!
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Post by Oldbloke » 15 Nov 2023, 5:59 am

1886 wrote:Exactly

Word is that the various bodies consultation supposed to have taken place with were all absolutely blindside by the now proposed firearm limits along with some property proposals and are not happy there was zero mention at any meetings.

Typical Labor Government interprets consultation as just a word. Might only be scuttlebutt but it has also been suggested that the East is watching as to how this transpires !!!!!


Yes, certainly a worry.
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Post by Dess787 » 15 Nov 2023, 7:33 pm

It seems the last month there has been a gun/shooting story in the WA news almost every day. This would have just lead to a heap of Joe and Jill High and Mighty sending through heaps of ''no one should have a gun" feedback submissions more than drowning out the considered submissions from the firearms community.
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Post by womble » 16 Nov 2023, 2:49 am

Dess787 wrote:It seems the last month there has been a gun/shooting story in the WA news almost every day. This would have just lead to a heap of Joe and Jill High and Mighty sending through heaps of ''no one should have a gun" feedback submissions more than drowning out the considered submissions from the firearms community.


They’d like that to happen, hence why all the media to enrage the masses. But it doesn’t. Most people don’t give a s**t.
It’s just a small highly organised and well connected lobby group that are very dedicated and put in the work.
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Re: WA Firearm Law Reforms - Monday 16 October announcement

Post by Oldbloke » 17 Nov 2023, 10:02 pm

In a state where petitions rarely come close to exceeding four figures, 12,673 of WA’s residents signed this one, which calls on Papalia to allow more time for feedback on the proposed gun laws.

https://sportingshooter.com.au/news/hug ... gun%20laws
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Re: WA Firearm Law Reforms - Monday 16 October announcement

Post by Dess787 » 19 Nov 2023, 5:41 am

You know, the mental health requirements. Yes there is no doubt there are troubled individuals who should not own firearms and unfortunately many have made news this year.

Mental health is a slippery slope, full of ignorance and fear.

But these new laws will prevent people from seeking help because of the worry of having anything on record.

I know i would never now even consider going on 'stress leave' at work. I have never done so before but it it sad that i now feel i never could.

This aspect of the laws and the ability for Cops to bully someone out of their guns based on their beliefs are the most worrying aspects for the reforms for me.
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