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Post by MeccaOz » 03 Jun 2014, 1:40 pm

Dad goes to jail for 4-year-old daughter’s drawing

It was a kindergarten class piece of art that Jessie Sansone probably won’t want to hang on the refrigerator anytime soon.

After Jesse Sansone’s 4-year-old daughter drew a picture of a gun, cops handcuffed the clueless father and dragged him off to jail. It was there that the dad was stripped of his clothes and searched by the authorities. Sansone was never charged with a crime.

Sansone wasn’t expecting to be greeted by police when he went to pick up his three children from school last week. Faculty there had become concerned, however, after the man’s 4-year-old daughter drew an image last Wednesday that they thought warranted investigation. It was a picture of a man holding a gun, and when teachers asked the girl to explain it, she said it was a depiction of her father.

“He uses it to shoot bad guys and monsters,” teachers say the girl explained.

The father says he doesn’t own a gun. Nor does he kill monsters.

“I’m picking up my kids and then, next thing you know, I’m locked up,” Sansone, 26, tells The Record out of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.

“I was in shock. This is completely insane. My daughter drew a gun on a piece of paper at school,” he says.

After seeing the image in question, the school’s staff became shocked as well. So much so, in fact, that they rang up child welfare officials and local law enforcement and arranged for them to meet the girl’s father at the end of the school day. By that evening, Sansone had been handcuffed, whisked away to jail and forced to remove his clothes so he could be subjected to a strip search.

Authorities took all three of Sansone’s children and dragged them to Family and Children’s Services to be interviewed. His wife, Stephanie Squires, tells The Record that authorities never explained themselves.

“He had absolutely no idea what this was even about. I just kept telling them. ‘You’re making a mistake,’ ” she says.

Despite her pleas, the ordeal went on for hours. Sansone says he was scared and was told he would be charged with possession of a firearm. The problem was, he says, that he doesn’t own a gun. After being held for hours, Sansone was eventually freed from jail and was asked to authorize a search of his home. Though he didn’t have to comply, he says he did so anyway.

Authorities did not recover any weapons in their search (or monsters). His wife says they knew they wouldn’t. The police, she says, acted on an assumption and nothing else.

“The way everything happened was completely unnecessary, especially since we know the school very well. I don’t understand how they came to that conclusion from a four-year-old’s drawing,” she says.

The girl’s father was pretty surprised the school acted that way, as well. Only last year, he says, the principal offered him a job as a counselor there. Sansone is a licensed personal support worker that educates children in classrooms across the region. The principal, Steve Zack, tells The Record that it was the welfare agency’s decision to involve the authorities.

“Police chose to arrest Jessie here. Nobody wants something like this to happen at any time, especially not at school. But that’s out of my hands,” Zack explains.

Sansone and his family are left wondering why the investigation carried out as far as it did, however. When The Record followed up on the story days later, Waterloo Regional Police Inspector Kevin Thaler told them, “We had every concern, based on this information that children were in danger.” The information is now being called into question after Thaler adds that investigators never saw the drawing. Neither has Sansone or the school’s superintendent.

Police add that the strip-search was necessary since it was a firearms-related incident.


http://rt.com/usa/jail-sansone-gun-waterloo-333/
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Post by wrenchman » 04 Jun 2014, 3:03 am

This does supprise me because Canada is very rural and bear problems are not uncommon must of been one of there city's like Toronto very anti gun.

My friend that lives by Wawa, Ontario has woke up to a bear pealing the sideing off his shed to get to the trash it can get. Scary.

They have a national register and hand guns are permitted just not for hunting
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Post by MeccaOz » 04 Jun 2014, 3:09 am

It seems to me as years roll by Wrenchman that every government is getting more and more scared by an armed populace, which I have to say, convinces me they are up to no good,lol
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Post by wrenchman » 04 Jun 2014, 4:09 am

I do agree we have anti gun groups in every country, I just don't understand them.

It's the same people that will say if some thing happens I'm going by your house because you have guns.

I laugh and tell them at that time it's to late for you.
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Post by MeccaOz » 04 Jun 2014, 4:39 am

Yeah It surprises me as well, I live in the bush so Im a little bit insulated from it. But I have seen peoples faces when they find out I own a gun and they look at me like im a serial killer, yet 5 minutes before we were chatting away just fine. These are the same sorts of people who call for everyone to just try and understand everyone else ... Except if they own a gun.
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Post by beerd » 04 Jun 2014, 2:17 pm

wrenchman wrote:This does supprise me because Canada is very rural and bear problems are not uncommon must of been one of there city's like Toronto very anti gun.


Canada is anti-gun?

I thought Canada was more or less the same as the US as far as gun rights go?

Different culture and stuff though. Just as many guns, hardly any of the problems?
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Post by Norton » 04 Jun 2014, 2:18 pm

I was in shock. This is completely insane. My daughter drew a gun on a piece of paper at school


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Post by Swarm » 04 Jun 2014, 2:20 pm

wrenchman wrote:I do agree we have anti gun groups in every country, I just don't understand them.


Bored, miserable SOB's that have nothing better to do than cause other people grief by imposing their prejudice onto them.
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Post by Ariat » 04 Jun 2014, 2:22 pm

Despite her pleas, the ordeal went on for hours. Sansone says he was scared and was told he would be charged with possession of a firearm. The problem was, he says, that he doesn’t own a gun. After being held for hours, Sansone was eventually freed from jail and was asked to authorize a search of his home. Though he didn’t have to comply, he says he did so anyway.

Authorities did not recover any weapons in their search (or monsters). His wife says they knew they wouldn’t. The police, she says, acted on an assumption and nothing else.


What a f***ing joke.

No evidence, no charge, arrested and dragged through the ringer over a 4 year old's drawing.

Everyone involved on this... For shame.
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Post by sneaker » 04 Jun 2014, 2:26 pm

Ariat wrote:No evidence, no charge, arrested and dragged through the ringer over a 4 year old's drawing.


One about him "shooting monsters" no less.

Pretty sure Twilight and Harry Potter are fiction. Someone must not have told the cops there that?
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Post by remnt » 04 Jun 2014, 2:27 pm

That's out of control.

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Post by tucked » 04 Jun 2014, 2:28 pm

I dunno what the legal terms are for this but 'wrongful arrest', 'defamation of character'?

The guys needs a good lawyer I reckon.
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Post by halberg » 04 Jun 2014, 2:29 pm

wrenchman wrote:My friend that lives by Wawa, Ontario has woke up to a bear pealing the sideing off his shed to get to the trash it can get. Scary.

They have a national register and hand guns are permitted just not for hunting


Man, would you want to take on a bear with a pistol? :lol:
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Post by Carter » 04 Jun 2014, 2:36 pm

halberg wrote:Man, would you want to take on a bear with a pistol? :lol:


I'd want my neighbour to be walking past with his 375 H&H Mag slung over his shoulder :lol:
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Post by Baronvonrort » 04 Jun 2014, 3:55 pm

I don't consider rt.com a credible source.

rt.com is state run propaganda, they are forbidden from criticising Putin yet everyone else is fair game.
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Post by bigfellascott » 04 Jun 2014, 4:43 pm

:lol: More old news stories - what's doing?

February 27, 2012

Bloody ridiculous none the less - bad as the kid getting expelled or sent home for pointing a fried chicken fillet at a teacher and pretending to shoot them with it. :roll: some people are real precious these days, what a pathetic sad little world we are living in.

Maybe they should start arresting the owners of TV Stations and those who make movies depicting guns in them (look out Dirty Harry!) - It really makes me wonder what will happen in future years if this is how stupid people are now!
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Post by chacka » 06 Jun 2014, 9:18 am

Baronvonrort wrote:I don't consider rt.com a credible source.


The title is definitely inflamatory.

Obviously they know that "go to jail" means serve time in prison to most people, which did not happen here.

He was arrested, not charged and then released... Taken to the local station and detained temporarily.

The situation is still s**t, but the title is out of proportion.
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Post by MeccaOz » 06 Jun 2014, 9:25 am

Baronvonrort wrote:I don't consider rt.com a credible source.

rt.com is state run propaganda, they are forbidden from criticising Putin yet everyone else is fair game.



Actually A couple of RT's American correspondents criticised Putin, he took it in his stride. Yet A couple of CNN anchors criticised the US in the same story and were summertime sacked,lol. God's honest truth and not a conspiracy theory, but CNN was set up by and is the propaganda arm of the CIA. There have been books published on it and at least one movie on it.
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Post by MeccaOz » 06 Jun 2014, 9:26 am

chacka wrote:
Baronvonrort wrote:I don't consider rt.com a credible source.


The title is definitely inflamatory.

Obviously they know that "go to jail" means serve time in prison to most people, which did not happen here.

He was arrested, not charged and then released... Taken to the local station and detained temporarily.

The situation is still s**t, but the title is out of proportion.


Mate every media outlet does that !
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Post by 1290 » 06 Jun 2014, 10:36 am

beerd wrote:
wrenchman wrote:This does supprise me because Canada is very rural and bear problems are not uncommon must of been one of there city's like Toronto very anti gun.


Canada is anti-gun?

I thought Canada was more or less the same as the US as far as gun rights go?

Different culture and stuff though. Just as many guns, hardly any of the problems?


Canada has not too dissimilar ownership rates in some rural or wooded area (ie. bear country) than USA...

Most cities would be antigun due to media, crime reporting propagandising urban-liberal left wing types etc

But the registry for longarms in Canada was disbanded and they were forced to destroy the data, except for one state as I recall, great debate on the matter, but one of the issue was the cost to implement and run was massively underestimated....dont expect widespread reporting on this, especially locally...

I understand carriage is compulsory?? in bear country...

Factoid of the day;

What do the following countries Not have in common?
 Uruguay
 Sweden
 Norway
 France
 Canada
 Austria
 Germany
 Iceland

Homicide rate (number per 100,000) average over 13 years!;

 Uruguay 6.34
 Sweden 0.98
 Norway 0.98
 France 1.44
 Canada 1.65
 Austria 0.71
 Germany 0.97
 Iceland 0.65*

*some years have zero instances recorded

Here's the part that will have countless greentard lefty commie red or just plain brainwashed gungrabber types choking on their tofu burgers ...

What do those same countries have in common?

GUN OWNERSHIP RATE - ALL AROUND 30 FIREARMS PER 100 PEOPLE

Just for info here in Aus we have 15 per 100 people registered firearms and a homicide rate of 1.4/100,000 all according to UN data....
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Post by wrenchman » 06 Jun 2014, 10:45 am

Very good post 1290
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Post by MeccaOz » 06 Jun 2014, 10:54 am

wrenchman wrote:Very good post 1290


What he said :)
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Post by chacka » 06 Jun 2014, 11:58 am

MeccaOz wrote:Mate every media outlet does that !


I'm not saying all the others are saints :lol:

This particular example was pretty bad I felt.
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Post by beerd » 06 Jun 2014, 12:00 pm

1290 wrote:I understand carriage is compulsory?? in bear country...


Would make sense to me.
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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Jun 2014, 2:43 pm

Any links to where you got the Data from 1290? - always handy so we can post it on other forums and Face Ache etc to spread the truth as much as possible since the media are incapable of recognising the truth let alone reporting it these days.
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Post by 1290 » 06 Jun 2014, 4:49 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Any links to where you got the Data from 1290? - always handy so we can post it on other forums and Face Ache etc to spread the truth as much as possible since the media are incapable of recognising the truth let alone reporting it these days.


come on big fella, the media know the truth, they are pretty cluey, the thing is that they are not there to disseminate the truth, but to sell advertising and to spread the propaganda that their bosses bosses want spread...

Homicide figures are from the United Nations office on drugs and crime;
http://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/data/GSH2013_Homicide_count_and_rate.xlsx

Firearm ownership rate vary according to source and survey method, but the 'small arm survey' seems legit enough, Uni of Geneva, who wouldnt trust the Swiss!!;
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/A-Yearbook/2007/en/Small-Arms-Survey-2007-Chapter-02-annexe-4-EN.pdf
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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Jun 2014, 5:56 pm

1290 wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Any links to where you got the Data from 1290? - always handy so we can post it on other forums and Face Ache etc to spread the truth as much as possible since the media are incapable of recognising the truth let alone reporting it these days.


come on big fella, the media know the truth, they are pretty cluey, the thing is that they are not there to disseminate the truth, but to sell advertising and to spread the propaganda that their bosses bosses want spread...

Homicide figures are from the United Nations office on drugs and crime;
http://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/data/GSH2013_Homicide_count_and_rate.xlsx

Firearm ownership rate vary according to source and survey method, but the 'small arm survey' seems legit enough, Uni of Geneva, who wouldnt trust the Swiss!!;
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/A-Yearbook/2007/en/Small-Arms-Survey-2007-Chapter-02-annexe-4-EN.pdf


Thanks for the links mate, I know the Media all too well, was part of it for 20 odd years.

I don't read newspapers, mags or watch the news anymore, couldn't be bothered with all the bulls**t that comes from them anymore, feel a lot better for doing so. I don't even bother with firearms mags these days, its the same ol same ol regurgitated year after year so no point really.
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Post by 1290 » 06 Jun 2014, 6:24 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Thanks for the links mate, I know the Media all too well, was part of it for 20 odd years.

I don't read newspapers, mags or watch the news anymore, couldn't be bothered with all the bulls**t that comes from them anymore, feel a lot better for doing so. I don't even bother with firearms mags these days, its the same ol same ol regurgitated year after year so no point really.

I hear you,I used to think it important to read the daily paper (yeah stop laughing....) then I gave that away, thought the evening news couldnt be missed, geeeeesus, gave that away thought ok the non-commercially biased gaybeecee remains... well, since the election their leftist slant is so demoralising especially since (their) budget cuts were announced... what to do. Move to the mountains and run on solar power maybe...
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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Jun 2014, 9:01 pm

1290 wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Thanks for the links mate, I know the Media all too well, was part of it for 20 odd years.

I don't read newspapers, mags or watch the news anymore, couldn't be bothered with all the bulls**t that comes from them anymore, feel a lot better for doing so. I don't even bother with firearms mags these days, its the same ol same ol regurgitated year after year so no point really.

I hear you,I used to think it important to read the daily paper (yeah stop laughing....) then I gave that away, thought the evening news couldnt be missed, geeeeesus, gave that away thought ok the non-commercially biased gaybeecee remains... well, since the election their leftist slant is so demoralising especially since (their) budget cuts were announced... what to do. Move to the mountains and run on solar power maybe...


Yep I gave up the news after the budget bulls**t, just couldn't handle hearing about all the crap, just made me sick to the stomach so I figured the best way to fix that was to switch the bloody thing off, as for the newspapers that's just a Rupert M brainwashing experiment in my opinion, its so biased to whom every gives him what he wants its just a joke, only good for lighting fires!

I don't bother with the radio much anymore, I may listen to gardening shows on the weekend and some music stations and that's about it, can't stand Allen Jones or any of those over opinionated so and so's, they've got the answers to everything apparently. :roll:

Anyway mate let's forget about the "Mind Control" crap and lets get back to shootin stuff! :D
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Post by wrenchman » 07 Jun 2014, 12:16 am

Living right next to Windsor I listen to there radio stations and watch some of there news shows gun laws are a hot button in Canada

And they have the bunny huger mentality with the larger population's in the city's they affect laws with out noting how it affects every one else.

It's a very sad thing and politicians do it every were and the states do a lot its called jerry meandering were they over lap voting district so even though a district is 3/4 rural guess which part at the end of the day carries the votes.

There is a reason California is democrat with so much rural areas you don't get fair representation.
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