shooting meeting.

[safeshot]

Last eve I attended a shooting meeting sponsored by the Nats. Over 250 men and women attended.
A lot of ground was covered criticisms were heard out.and many experiences with the new rules were given. among the most bizarre was a farmer who was told by officialdom he could shoot his centrefire on one part of his property but only his rimfire on the other part.
another farmer was told he could not have a centrefire for putting down injured stock his .22 would have to do.

The Nats folk there stated emphatically they have a solid agreement with the Libs if they win the next state election they will put the regs on hold in the Parliament so the whole thing can be taken back to the drawing board.
( sadly its my life experience that the Libs never keep their word on anything they promise to do, but, we live in hope.)

There was a call for donation to the Nats (?) but I am suggesting here that SSAA Nationally should be pouring funds into WA as what is done here WILL be done in the other states.
My letters to SSAA down the months have never been answered.
At the mention of the SSAA becoming politically active came a loud cry from a member "About bloody time.!"

stay tuned.
PS. while in side the cars had leaf lets but on them advising that the ALP was in favour of "Men changing their birth certificate gender and then going into girls change rooms."...........eeew If this is correct then no votes from me for the ALP. They have ceased to be a workers party and are now "social re-engineers"..

[mchughcb]

P&G Assoc hung its members out to dry.

[Oldbloke]

P&G Assoc hung its members out to dry.

Who?

[Tomotron]

I hope you WA folk win in the end.

[Oldbloke]

I left SSAA about 9 years ago for thst reason. Simply not politically active

I had to admit they put together a reasonable submission re copper bullets a few months ago. I liked what they did & I intend to increase my range time so I've rejoined.

I think I'll send off a letter too in a couple of weeks.

[safeshot]

I hope you WA folk win in the end.

Me as well.
This state election in March will be a most critical one.


Sadly the SSAA doesnt like the SF&F party Nats the same. The nats have a huge area of interests to cover farming, sheep exports, grain exports and I cant recall them ever going out to support firearms ownership and in fairness, most likely because the country scene has always featured firearms and this is taken as a given. But the SF&F party are dedicated to the shooting of all sorts have a definite bias toward the outdoors and farming too so should be encouraged, taken on board whatever as part of the firearm 'family' and that goes to for the Shooters Union.
SSAA are opposed to the Shooters Union as well. Shooters Union? Go look them up. They are a firearm supporters party and here in WA is run by a veteran former Police officer who knows his stuff.
We need all the help that can be mustered I dont care where its from the social rights for green gay whales party would be welcome.
There are some independents coming on but young and inexperienced as yet.
Regards,

[alexjones]

What would a win even look like? Going back to the way it was with one year paper licences, service certificates and licensing every gun individually.

[Oldbloke]

What would a win even look like? Going back to the way it was with one year paper licences, service certificates and licensing every gun individually.

The Vic Act is perhaps the best of the lot.

[Wapiti]

What would a win even look like? Going back to the way it was with one year paper licences, service certificates and licensing every gun individually.

Anyone who didn't think that would be a win would have an IQ under 50.
Compared to what's to come if people don't all show up at the rally, and/or f*ck Labor off as the human scum that they are.

Despite the fact that the laws as they have stood for so long are an insult to the good people of WA as it is, and it's about time they see it as such and get angry enough to say, Nope.

[safeshot]

Thanks for your replies.
-------------
and Australia day.
I see a lot of Australian flags are up and about.
An ex service man told me once when 'changing the flag' thing was going on, he said, "it doesnt show where we are but by God it shows where we have come from."
regards.

[safeshot]

From the SF&F party today 26 -1-25.

"It’s important to remember that these new Firearms laws, Fishing restrictions and Live Export bans have occurred since losing our longstanding WA Representative in 2021".[

[geoff]

From the SF&F party today 26 -1-25.

"It’s important to remember that these new Firearms laws, Fishing restrictions and Live Export bans have occurred since losing our longstanding WA Representative in 2021".

They can get their hand off it

Having one lonely SFF MP wouldn't have made one iota of difference

[alexjones]

To use that argument from the SFF, we could also say that this country never had division until they changed the demographic quota to migrate here.

[safeshot]

From the SF&F party today 26 -1-25.

"It’s important to remember that these new Firearms laws, Fishing restrictions and Live Export bans have occurred since losing our longstanding WA Representative in 2021".

They can get their hand off it

Having one lonely SFF MP wouldn't have made one iota of difference

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Do you live in WA?

[Coxy383]

What would a win even look like? Going back to the way it was with one year paper licences, service certificates and licensing every gun individually.

The Vic Act is perhaps the best of the lot.

But turning all our land into national park and culling all the deer and pest species by helicopter does pretty much the same thing.

[Fester]

As they are all coming for our guns Wokeworld wide, the other state govts will be watching with interest.

The newer govts that can't push it, like NSW and Qld are using new licencing policies to cut guns.
NSW, has now admitted it as it's no longer a secret with unknown numbers of licenses culled.
It is some sort of trail where any health issue will result in needing a doctor's letter to renew a firearms license.
It can be anything, including a physical injury or ticking the pensioner's concession box for reduced costs.
They claim that you made a declaration and of course, we will follow it up and cancel your firearms license privilege unless a doctor's letter assures them that nothing will affect your ability to use handle and store firearms.

Where will this end as they have eyeglasses and hearing included as physical disabilities, they just have to say that could affect your ability to handle firearms.

A govt that has been in for too long can change a democracy to a dictatorship and Covid proved it can be successful in Wokeword.

[Oldbloke]

As they are all coming for our guns Wokeworld wide, the other state govts will be watching with interest.

The newer govts that can't push it, like NSW and Qld are using new licencing policies to cut guns.
NSW, has now admitted it as it's no longer a secret with unknown numbers of licenses culled.
It is some sort of trail where any health issue will result in needing a doctor's letter to renew a firearms license.
It can be anything, including a physical injury or ticking the pensioner's concession box for reduced costs.
They claim that you made a declaration and of course, we will follow it up and cancel your firearms license privilege unless a doctor's letter assures them that nothing will affect your ability to use handle and store firearms.

Where will this end as they have eyeglasses and hearing included as physical disabilities, they just have to say that could affect your ability to handle firearms.

A govt that has been in for too long can change a democracy to a dictatorship and Covid proved it can be successful in Wokeword.

Just look at Trump.
He sacked the people who oversea the government.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-f ... =118097873

[geoff]

From the SF&F party today 26 -1-25.

"It’s important to remember that these new Firearms laws, Fishing restrictions and Live Export bans have occurred since losing our longstanding WA Representative in 2021".

They can get their hand off it

Having one lonely SFF MP wouldn't have made one iota of difference

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Do you live in WA?

A cursory glance at my post history might indicate that yes, I do.

[mchughcb]

As they are all coming for our guns Wokeworld wide, the other state govts will be watching with interest.

The newer govts that can't push it, like NSW and Qld are using new licencing policies to cut guns.
NSW, has now admitted it as it's no longer a secret with unknown numbers of licenses culled.
It is some sort of trail where any health issue will result in needing a doctor's letter to renew a firearms license.
It can be anything, including a physical injury or ticking the pensioner's concession box for reduced costs.
They claim that you made a declaration and of course, we will follow it up and cancel your firearms license privilege unless a doctor's letter assures them that nothing will affect your ability to use handle and store firearms.

Where will this end as they have eyeglasses and hearing included as physical disabilities, they just have to say that could affect your ability to handle firearms.

A govt that has been in for too long can change a democracy to a dictatorship and Covid proved it can be successful in Wokeword.

WA still is under state of emergency because of Covid.

WA was going to send their over 338 calibres they confiscated to Russia because they believe that was going to change the outcome

Perth has become the bed wetting capital of Australia.

[bigrich]

I hope you WA folk win in the end.

Me as well.
This state election in March will be a most critical one.


Sadly the SSAA doesnt like the SF&F party Nats the same. The nats have a huge area of interests to cover farming, sheep exports, grain exports and I cant recall them ever going out to support firearms ownership and in fairness, most likely because the country scene has always featured firearms and this is taken as a given. But the SF&F party are dedicated to the shooting of all sorts have a definite bias toward the outdoors and farming too so should be encouraged, taken on board whatever as part of the firearm 'family' and that goes to for the Shooters Union.
SSAA are opposed to the Shooters Union as well. Shooters Union? Go look them up. They are a firearm supporters party and here in WA is run by a veteran former Police officer who knows his stuff.
We need all the help that can be mustered I dont care where its from the social rights for green gay whales party would be welcome.
There are some independents coming on but young and inexperienced as yet.
Regards,

this saddens me . all these groups who reckon they represent firearms owners having grudges and dislike for one another . just think what they could acheive if they put their differences aside and work together . i'm a ssaa member, shooters union member , and i donated to the NSC before that imploded . in my last federal election i voted for the SF&F party, as well as one nation and katter . all the groups that could benefit my sport/hobby/lifestyle . even though i live in outer suburbia i'll vote katter cause their for regional QLD, and conservative governing, which is largely ignored by big city woke pollies . greens last , after socialist labor . i'm trying to do my bit , but the everyday potato heads in suburbia and the city keep falling for the big two parties bullsh!t . all shooters and their clubs united would make a powerful voting block that would scare canberra sh!tless . we need a NRA type of political group in this country to stop shooters rights being eroded . that's not going to happen until the shooting clans unite

say what you want about trump , but he's putting his country and citizens first , and talking about reintroducing import tariffs to protect american jobs and industry . we used to make everything in this country , now we just import everything and big foreign based business gets rich . hmm , wonder if that and the sh!t ton of immigrants has anything to do with our living standards slipping
trump might be a showman , but some of his ideas will benefit his country . our politicians need to follow his lead ......

[alexjones]

I don't want to sound like a commie but something like 40% of the worlds gas is off the West Aus coast. And here in Aus we have some of the highest gas prices in the world. Places like Qatar have a 10% income tax rate for people and Dubai have 0% and Norway has sovereign wealth funds etc.

Why do we let foreign companies take our gas and other minerals then sell it back to us at exorbitant
rates?

We should have 0% income tax like other places do because of all our minerals!!!

Venezuela is a hell hole but they have like free petrol for their people because there is so much oil there.

[geoff]

I don't want to sound like a commie but something like 40% of the worlds gas is off the West Aus coast. And here in Aus we have some of the highest gas prices in the world. Places like Qatar have a 10% income tax rate for people and Dubai have 0% and Norway has sovereign wealth funds etc.

Why do we let foreign companies take our gas and other minerals then sell it back to us at exorbitant
rates?

We should have 0% income tax like other places do because of all our minerals!!!

Venezuela is a hell hole but they have like free petrol for their people because there is so much oil there.

What are you on about? Aside from this not at all being related to a gun rally, WA gas is significantly cheaper than the eastern states because of a long standing and hard fought state govt policy demanding a domestic use reservation. This has been the case for years. Just google it

The reason the east coast miss out is because the LNP sell us up a river any time they are in government.

This forum is a toilet full of floating turds who have all the political comprehension skills of a box of ham

[bigrich]

I don't want to sound like a commie but something like 40% of the worlds gas is off the West Aus coast. And here in Aus we have some of the highest gas prices in the world. Places like Qatar have a 10% income tax rate for people and Dubai have 0% and Norway has sovereign wealth funds etc.

Why do we let foreign companies take our gas and other minerals then sell it back to us at exorbitant
rates?

We should have 0% income tax like other places do because of all our minerals!!!

Venezuela is a hell hole but they have like free petrol for their people because there is so much oil there.

What are you on about? Aside from this not at all being related to a gun rally, WA gas is significantly cheaper than the eastern states because of a long standing and hard fought state govt policy demanding a domestic use reservation. This has been the case for years. Just google it

The reason the east coast miss out is because the LNP sell us up a river any time they are in government.

This forum is a toilet full of floating turds who have all the political comprehension skills of a box of ham

well, fair comment i guess , AJ is a bit off topic . division and infighting dividing us was the point of my last post , the last line of yours regarding your view of this forum isn't helpful mate . i like ham but .....
JMHO , cheers

[Wapiti]

This forum is a toilet full of floating turds who have all the political comprehension skills of a box of ham

Whoa!!!

This is the reason that all of you are losing your guns.
You cannot stick together and instead of respectfully putting up a counter argument or steer a topic back on track, resort to juvenile insults... the sign of the loser.

Why not just respectfully counter an incorrect opinion with the facts without being the big man behind a screen?

Everyone has the right to add to a discussion.

Is there a thread that doesn't go off track?

[bigrich]

This forum is a toilet full of floating turds who have all the political comprehension skills of a box of ham

Whoa!!!

This is the reason that all of you are losing your guns.
You cannot stick together and instead of respectfully putting up a counter argument or steer a topic back on track, resort to juvenile insults... the sign of the loser.

Why not just respectfully counter an incorrect opinion with the facts without being the big man behind a screen?

Everyone has the right to add to a discussion.

Is there a thread that doesn't go off track?

100% agree

[Wapiti]

I mean, we can all agree to disagree?

[geoff]

This forum is a toilet full of floating turds who have all the political comprehension skills of a box of ham

Whoa!!!

This is the reason that all of you are losing your guns.
You cannot stick together and instead of respectfully putting up a counter argument or steer a topic back on track, resort to juvenile insults... the sign of the loser.

Why not just respectfully counter an incorrect opinion with the facts without being the big man behind a screen?

Everyone has the right to add to a discussion.

Is there a thread that doesn't go off track?

This place is absolutely batshit insane nowadays, and wasn't always the case. Post 2020 it's just wild. Almost every thread devolves into utter nonsense, largely unfounded or conspiratorial. Then everyone just moves onto the next

I mostly just lurk but pop up every now and again whenever something worthwhile discussing comes up, like this new legislation in WA. Every single thread about it just bangs on about China or the wOkE mOb or bloody space lasers or something. Unhinged.

Can't even have a discussion about a bloody protest march, whether that's going ahead or not or whether it's useful, before someone goes WHAT ABOUT DA GAS, regarding the state with the only effective gas price control? For crying out loud

[bigrich]

This forum is a toilet full of floating turds who have all the political comprehension skills of a box of ham

Whoa!!!

This is the reason that all of you are losing your guns.
You cannot stick together and instead of respectfully putting up a counter argument or steer a topic back on track, resort to juvenile insults... the sign of the loser.

Why not just respectfully counter an incorrect opinion with the facts without being the big man behind a screen?

Everyone has the right to add to a discussion.

Is there a thread that doesn't go off track?

This place is absolutely batshit insane nowadays, and wasn't always the case. Post 2020 it's just wild. Almost every thread devolves into utter nonsense, largely unfounded or conspiratorial. Then everyone just moves onto the next

I mostly just lurk but pop up every now and again whenever something worthwhile discussing comes up, like this new legislation in WA. Every single thread about it just bangs on about China or the wOkE mOb or bloody space lasers or something. Unhinged.

Can't even have a discussion about a bloody protest march, whether that's going ahead or not or whether it's useful, before someone goes WHAT ABOUT DA GAS, regarding the state with the only effective gas price control? For crying out loud

i understand your point of view mate , but getting disrespectful and abusive doesn't help. i hope WA does claw back some reasonable firearms laws and ousts the pollies who've betrayed the people their meant to represent for political point scoring . we're all individuals on here, and points of view and perception differ, which means sometimes agreeing to disagree is the noble way to go . i stated in one of my earlier posts how i'm trying in my part of the country to make a difference, i hope others are too . there's some truth in what you say about the forum getting off topic , the biggest trigger in my opinion is anything to do with trump

so can you put this topic back on track with any updates or news about what's going on in the west mate ?

[geoff]

On a more constructive note, I will not be attending the upcoming rally myself but I am in full, unequivocal support of people's right to do so.

I hope that everyone is on their best behaviour. The last thing we need is someone getting on the news and banging on about the constitution Magna Carta mate corrupt lizard people self defence Chinese invasion

The gamble of how this upcoming event will get portrayed by the media is very risky odds.

[animalpest]

100% agree. I often look at what's being posted and then move on.

Perhaps the flinging dung at each other, the anti-government spewing, conspiracy and ranting that goes on simply shows them that firearm owners can't be trusted to even have a polite discussion amongst themselves.

Sad