No1_49er wrote:Unfortunately, the intentions of this so-called "counter terrorism" legislation are doomed to failure because it conflates the swastika with Nazi evil, whereas it actually predates that usage by many centuries.
The equilateral cross with legs bent at right angles – that looks like swirling arms or a pattern of L shapes – has been a holy symbol in Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism for centuries. And, of course, the swastika (or the similar-looking hakenkreuz or hooked cross) is also a symbol of hate, embodying painful and traumatic memories of the Third Reich. The symbol of Nazism, it is associated with genocide and racial hatred after the atrocities of the Holocaust.
The swastika has a long, complex history – much older than its association with Nazi Germany – dating back to prehistoric times. The emblem was a sign of well-being and long life, and was found everywhere, from the tombs of early Christians to the catacombs of Rome and the Lalibela Rock Churches, to the Cathedral of Cordoba. "The motif appears to have first been used in Eurasia, as early as 7,000 years ago, perhaps representing the movement of the sun through the sky… as a symbol of wellbeing in ancient societies," says the Holocaust Encyclopedia.
Which now begs the question - who is going to decide whether the symbol is being used for peaceful purpose, or for some form of hatred, hence the "counter terrorism" label?
wanneroo wrote:I was watching some documentary on India recently and there were swastikas everywhere, on trucks, buildings, etc.
It was also used in Scandinavia for nearly a thousand years.
Legislation like this I always see as a trojan horse. They legislate uncomfortable or unpopular speech with criminal penalties and then once that precedent is established, they then widen the scope of it, just as they did in Covid and next thing you know cops are beating people for taking a break outside or disagreeing with anything the government does.
on_one_wheel wrote:I was wondering how'd we achieve world peace, who would've thought banning a flag was the answer.
I reckon we should burn history books next and make saying certain things illegal.
Oldbloke wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:I was wondering how'd we achieve world peace, who would've thought banning a flag was the answer.
I reckon we should burn history books next and make saying certain things illegal.
When we burn history books or remove statues of perhaps less than great people history no longer happened.
Leeross wrote:Gday does anyone have any insight into the prohibited hate symbols bill that just came in on the 8th of January does this affect German marked firearms with the Nazi eagle since some have the swastika? I have contacted numerous gun shops and other Industry people and cannot get a straight answer. Cheers
alexjones wrote:I wonder why they picked the NAZI symbol and not the Hammer and sickle? The NAZI government was only in power for 12 years yet commies are still a threat to world peace to this day.
NAZI and commie are the exact same philosophy they just have a different boogie man. One is focused on class and the other race but they both want state control of everything.
commie = Blames the evil capitalist for all the worlds problems and wants workers purity.
NAZI = Blames the evil jew for all the worlds problems and wants racial purity.
Lazarus wrote:alexjones wrote:I wonder why they picked the NAZI symbol and not the Hammer and sickle? The NAZI government was only in power for 12 years yet commies are still a threat to world peace to this day.
NAZI and commie are the exact same philosophy they just have a different boogie man. One is focused on class and the other race but they both want state control of everything.
commie = Blames the evil capitalist for all the worlds problems and wants workers purity.
NAZI = Blames the evil jew for all the worlds problems and wants racial purity.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease, alexjones.
The "demographic" that hides behind the race card most is behind this silliness.
alexjones wrote:Lazarus wrote:alexjones wrote:I wonder why they picked the NAZI symbol and not the Hammer and sickle? The NAZI government was only in power for 12 years yet commies are still a threat to world peace to this day.
NAZI and commie are the exact same philosophy they just have a different boogie man. One is focused on class and the other race but they both want state control of everything.
commie = Blames the evil capitalist for all the worlds problems and wants workers purity.
NAZI = Blames the evil jew for all the worlds problems and wants racial purity.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease, alexjones.
The "demographic" that hides behind the race card most is behind this silliness.
I can't remember the last time I walked down the street and seen a NAZI yet I see commies often. Personally apart from underage adult movies I don't think anything should be banned. Keep things in the open so it is easier to observe then push it underground. All bans do is create black markets and the demand becomes greater because people want what they can't have. Imagine bikies selling NAZI memorabilia alongside their meth and guns because it is profitable.
Social morals and shaming is a better deterrent than out right bans.