Pauline on gun laws 1997

[Baronvonrort]

I found this, very interesting.

www.gwb.com.au/onenation/speeches/sept97b.html

[adam]

Nearly 20 years ago, and as true today as ever... It's good to see her back. It was a disgusting time for the Liberals - first with the PA cover-up and then the slush fund to get her put in Jail.

[<<Genesis93>>]

The best outcome of this farcical election is the the Pauline Hanson IS BACK!..... she is great value and the one who will ask the tough question, and I'm sure make the most of her parliamentary privilege...
I loved the signs they were holding, "my office or yours.."...

But crikey I cant believe it, the firearm deaths were trending down before 1996....
Have a go at the response to her speech, what a bunch of so and sos, "

Hansard here page 8993.

and the general level of hoplo and how little they thought of gun owners....PVC pipes buried, how if they really wanted to 'disarm Australians' then they'd be disarmed....

".....In New South Wales around 150,000 automatic and semiautomatic firearms have been handed in. "..... of course they were.. mostly fully automatic machine weapon guns no doubt...


".....some 617,416 weapons have actually been handed in, and now Australia is a much safer place. ".......yes. yes it is. now the rainbow coloured Unicorns are free to safely canter across the daisy lined meadows...

[Berper]

"In New South Wales around 150,000 automatic and semiautomatic firearms have been handed in. "..... of course they were.. mostly fully automatic machine weapon guns no doubt...

So 1 automatic and 149,999 semi autos.

And 149,998 in 22lr

[dugachelli]

Lets hope we can claw our way back to where we were.........Keep up the fight.

[adam]

Ditching the registry would be a good (and more secure) start. Canada have already done it, as have NZ. NZ leading the way and Australia falling behind... that just ain't Cricket.

[Baronvonrort]

Ditching the registry would be a good (and more secure) start. Canada have already done it, as have NZ. NZ leading the way and Australia falling behind... that just ain't Cricket.

The hoplophobes cannot be reasoned with they believe registration does something, when they compare car registration to tracking motoring offences ask them if they want to put number plates on guns.

[<<Genesis93>>]

The only way laws can change is by ALL licence holders and those sufficiently concerned SPEAK with one voice. that may occur via ON in the Senate, petition !!

Let's first see what strength ON has in the Senate but regardless, just one MP can table a petition, if there are enough punters behind it..

[Sydor]

Once voice would be good. Unfortunately ON would not unite the LAFO.
A lot of other ON policies are plain toxic for many LAFO, including myself.

We need to work on uniting ourselves around some sort of conservative platform that does not marginalise migrants (like myself), and others.

[Gwion]

Personally think we need to unite around a bipartisan or 'nonpartisan' platform to be inclusive and representative of the diverse background of people who enjoy recreational shooting while progressing past this aggressively adversarial and failing system that we continue to tolerate here in Australia.

[Baronvonrort]

One of the problems we have is too many groups competing for our vote since we don't have huge numbers we need greater unity, gun laws are a state issue so vital to vote for SFFP in state elections yet there is not much they can do at federal level, Leyonhjelm has proven his worth at Federal level and I prefer the LDP firearms policy along with them not being a single issue party.
I don't agree with all the LDP policies yet the reality is any party would be lucky to get half of what they really want.

Looking at senate results for Vic the LDP and SFFP along with Ricky Muir are trailing the Animal justice party which would be a disaster if the AJP get a seat, In NSW Leyonjelm might just scrape in despite fierce competition from the SFFP.
There is talk the LDP might scrape in with a seat in Qld.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-elec ... lts/senate

I hope those who voted SFFP at number 1 in the federal election put the LDP at number 2, in NSW the SFFP had Fred Nile at number 2 which was unacceptable to me.

There is a good chance many of those who voted for the marijuana party had LDP at number 2, the Hemp party wrote the LDP policy for pot.

[DrDerpy]

I am willing to look past certain parties base beliefs and other undesirable bits if they are going to help us get what we want.
Life is a series of compromises I think, well it is f***ing playing out that way anyway, plus the non action by the ALP on the firearms issues when they had 3 years of government speaks volumes.
I doubt the LNP at any level want to make them more reasonable as they all seem to worship at the altar of Howard.

[happyhunter]

She struggles to construct a coherent sentence, yet another moron rides the racist under current into our house of review. GO DEMOCRACY!

[<<Genesis93>>]

Moron or not, half a million of your fellow Aussies voted for her, and consider that she was one of the VERY FEW voices that countered little Johnnie in Parliament when HE decided to take our guns away.

Yes. THATS democracy.

[Gwion]

Democracy also voted Hitler in..... and if you look at Hanson and One Nation, there are quite a few parallels to be drawn between their history and that of the N.A.Z.I Party.

[<<Genesis93>>]

You are absolutely correct g, he was voted in...and he always got around in an open top motorcar. Imagine how long obumma or our polls would last without RPG proof tanks protecting them.....

BTW, a good number of German are wondering whether they'd be better off with a Hitler today...rather than a commie / internationalist / open border leader....

And Na-zi is a contraction rather than an abbreviation.... you know I like to help

[Gwion]

oh god... the world is doomed.....

If there are people thinking that another Hitter is acceptable or prefferable i'm going to live in a cave!

AS for Hitler getting about in an open vehicle: he didn't seem to get about too much at all towards the end, did he. Did a lot of ducking and weaving to no avail because the world figured he and his monstrous minion for what they were!

[<<Genesis93>>]

Actual didn't see any ducking.... not much weaving either, he lived a long healthy life in Argentina..... oh did I say that


Its all about Nationalism vs Internationalism, and the media/entertainment industry has demonised Nationalism to the point where people are no longer proud to put THEIR country's interests above 'the collective'.....doesnt mean you ARE A NAZI.....or a neonazi, or a skin head or whatever... it means you want protected borders, the opportunity to decide who comes here and on what terms, protect industries and promote/encourage/support the RETURN of the industries they were exported c/- Gough (post Lima agreement).... Our government actively removed industries and send them oversea to support International Development, they then set up a government department to facilitate such wanton destruction and called it the Australian Agency for International development.....known as AusAID (not Aus Aid or Ausaid!) People support this because they incorrectly assume aid = food, yes, they do the food thing as well but its not the primary motivation, which is to develop, being the transformation from undeveloped to developed with infrastructure and industries, sound great but as we've seen, that development then through cheaper costs and wages 'steals' our industries......

As a result of this nation-scale multi-decadal self flagellation, we are no longer self sufficient and absolutely reliant on import for everything from socks and jocks to cars and machinery, and should the shipping lanes be closed or otherwise less 'operative'..... we'd be stuffed. [South China sea disagreement anyone??]

On the Internationalist bandwagon; UN, socialist/communist ideology, successive Australian governments, whether they claim to be red, blue, left, right, whatever, have absolutely conspired to destroy our prosperity. In so many ways....through so many international agreements, treaties... not the least of which is to expose all the unsecured creditors of the 'Aussie' banks to potential BAIL-INS should liquidity become 'problematic' again, that's YOU/US - so if things go bad WE LOSE our deposits. Like magic they will go - why? because 'they' decided in Europe. Remember the G20 in Brisbane? it was decided for us back then....

and there is so much we dont know, for example the 'carbon tax' involved an agreement to pay a straight 10% of the takings directly to the UN Environment fund...why? to what ends and what benefit? To save the yellow bellied duck billed monkey snake in Fakmanistan??

We've been taken for a long ride and we 'need' representative who will ask the tough questions and raise the matters that the majority of puppets in the parliaments are allergic to and would rather not raise....thats why the establishment try as the might to DESTROY those who dont tow the line, thats why they persecuted Pauline, the media tried to destroy her, and thats NOW why they are sowing the seeds to denigrate Pauline's number 2 - Malcolm Roberts, he penned a 'Sovereign Citizen' letter..who cares.... and link it with an organised domestic terrorism movement.... which is a fantasy. They're making out as though he is some kind of heretic - because he doesnt follow the man-made climate change bunkem.... I cant wait for him to raise the matter of atmospheric CO2 levels of an astonishing, disastrous 400ppm and the fact that the level has been higher than 7000ppm in the past..... and see what the tards say...



We DO NOT need internationalism
We need nationalism, and we need the likes of Pauline and Malcolm....
Pauline not being able to verbalise like the trained liars, sorry, solicitors and banker making up the current cabinet, is no reason to cut her down.
Malcolm is obviously a very intelligent guy (He's an Engineer you see ) and I'm looking forward to this term, it will be very interesting, especially given that the government NEEDS one nation this time around

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OK, I've said a bit there, dont just call me a Nazi and bolt.... disagree with some value adding

[Gwion]

I didn't call you a Nazi, i said there are parallels between One Nation and the Nazi Party.

You may have some valid points re: Nationalism and Internationalism. The only problem is that Nationalism as you describe above with protected boarders, industries, etc, is often used to mask an underlying racist and xenophobic route driver; exactly as it is in One Nation and the Nazi party. You can argue details as much as you like but that is the bare facts of the matter as recognised by the greater majority of the other 23.5 million Australians who did not vote for the Hansonites.

[Chronos]

ON, the only party representing the Ugg boot wearing, southern cross tattoo getting, can drinking, Aussie pride stickered, '80's planted, Kingswood Country watching bogan segment of Australian society.

Thank Christ there's only 1/2 mil of them left, problem is they all have 5 snotty nosed mullet headed kids running around barefoot who'll probably grow up to vote ON, if ice addition doesn't get them first



Chronos

[happyhunter]

Hey mate, I wear uggies, did drive a Kingswood once, have tatts and ratty and still feel un represented by any political party... so f*&*^kit.. I'm taking my meat pie, football kangaroo and Holden car and f&*^&king off back to 1975

[Chronos]

Hey mate, I wear uggies, did drive a Kingswood once, have tatts and ratty and still feel un represented by any political party... so f*&*^kit.. I'm taking my meat pie, football kangaroo and Holden car and f&*^&king off back to 1975

But you don't wear uggies to work do you?

Jus remember when you get there to start a SFFP branch and spread the word about the ****** coming. Hopefully when I hit "submit" and go to my safe I'll have a nice selection of semi auto risked, a 1911 in .45 and a hunting crossbow on the wall

Chronos

[crows2332]

Thanks Genesis93. Summed up my thoughts nearly to the letter.
Cheers

[ebr love]

One of the problems we have is too many groups competing for our vote since we don't have huge numbers we need greater unity

Problem is our peak bodies don't want to share their little slice of the ego pie.

Won't collaborate much with anyone else doing good. Just want to do their thing.

[safeshot]

In the past two days in the SW of WA there have been "groups of people" throwing rocks at passing cars. Well, they are not people they are criminals. How there was not serious pile ups is a miracle.
No news on prosecutions yet. I mention this as deaths by moron don't get much of a rating as Sr. Hanson said about the road toll.