Is There Going to be A Buy Back Now

[bones-350]

Just wondering what the powers to be will do with the family Commodore.
Are they going to take our Commodores away too now. We have crazies out in the community and the Government with their laws caused Bourke st. Murders and the unimaginable suffering to the victims families.
Are they going to penalize all Commodore owners, put a levy on those who own a Commodore because they are now a danger to society.
The government can't single out any group in our society to do their political grandstanding on.

[albat]

Commodore owners have always been a danger to society nothing new there, as for a levvy well the depreciation already takes care of that

[pete1]

Just wondering what the powers to be will do with the family Commodore.
Are they going to take our Commodores away too now. We have crazies out in the community and the Government with their laws caused Bourke st. Murders and the unimaginable suffering to the victims families.
Are they going to penalize all Commodore owners, put a levy on those who own a Commodore because they are now a danger to society.
The government can't single out any group in our society to do their political grandstanding on.

Government doesn't have any money cause there giving to many tax breaks to big companies and enjoying there huge wages, so a $7 co payment every time you get your commodore serviced is more likely.

[Title_II]

When you ask about buybacks in thread titles, Title_II's blood pressure jumps 30 points. I almost loaded up my gear and bought a plane ticket.

OK, I figured out Commodore is a car. They look pretty cool but they put the steering wheel on the wrong side. Other than that, I have no idea what is going on. What is going on?

[juststarting]

Title_II - Commodore was the brand of car used by the crazy lunatic here to plow through the crowd in the city here, last week... Poor attempt at a joke.

[wrenchman]

i am sorry that happen it does seem to be the new way the nut jobs are hilling we have had a few of them here also

[<<Genesis93>>]

When you ask about buybacks in thread titles, Title_II's blood pressure jumps 30 points. I almost loaded up my gear and bought a plane ticket.

OK, I figured out Commodore is a car. They look pretty cool but they put the steering wheel on the wrong side. Other than that, I have no idea what is going on. What is going on?

hey, when you take an Aussie Commodore, cut and shut it to make a 2 out of a 4 door... You know what you get? (you may have seen this coming)

You get a 2005 Pontiac GTO....

I gots another....

Few years back I was at an end of year lunch.... the table next to us was a bunch of GM engineers seeing off the year as well as a dude who was on the team that developed / designed the Camaro.... you probably know this was Melbourne and NOT Detroit or Dearborn!!

As far as the buyback; point is if it was a firearm - all and sundry would be lighting up calling for guns this and that more laws... save us from the scourge. But when its a car - cause theyre kind of too convenient, thou shalt not call for more car-laws...!!

We also have a serious law enforcement problem in Vic, where the police DO NOT PURSUE crims in cars.... and when they DO catch them... they DO NOT lock them up. Thats no rumour, our coque-spank of a premier declared that "prison is not an option" for the underage home-invading car-jacking Apex (sudanese) gangs. he gave them an open invite to run amok.

[Title_II]

SMH

[bones-350]

Genesis93 ,,,,,, you summed it up well.
It's not just Victoria that has issues with locking up crims here in South Australia, Australia's back waters, the crims don't have to go to prison they can nominate Home Detention and get it.
But heaven forbid if one gets caught with a .22lr round dropped while spotlighting and unknowingly ends up lodged somewhere under the front seat you are instantly treated as Australia's most wanted criminal. No slap on the wrist for you, but you do get to see the full force of the law first hand.
That's how f***** up this country can be...... minority rule while the majority remain quiet in disgust,,,,,,,,, .

[Title_II]

Genesis93 ,,,,,, you summed it up well.
It's not just Victoria that has issues with locking up crims here in South Australia, Australia's back waters, the crims don't have to go to prison they can nominate Home Detention and get it.
But heaven forbid if one gets caught with a .22lr round dropped while spotlighting and unknowingly ends up lodged somewhere under the front seat you are instantly treated as Australia's most wanted criminal. No slap on the wrist for you, but you do get to see the full force of the law first hand.
That's how f***** up this country can be...... minority rule while the majority remain quiet in disgust,,,,,,,,, .

We have a handful of states with strict gun laws and maybe two with very harsh penalties, one being New Jersey. One of the common complaints is that they often let criminals plea away the gun violations and just prosecute them on the underlying crime. Law abiding citizens? No way, they get the full sentence for the gun violations. Makes it pretty obvious what the real purpose of gun laws is, doesn't it?

New Jersey requires a carry license to have a handgun anywhere except your home, the range, your business, etc. Unfortunately, New Jersey is one of the 3 states where it is nearly impossible to get a carry permit. Cops found a law abiding citizen with two unloaded handguns in his trunk, in his garage, at his apartment. Determined he had been taking them to and from his mom's house, put him in jail FOR SEVEN YEARS.

Fortunately for him, the case got some media attention. The country was so outraged that Attorney's General from like 30 other states started writing nasty letters to New Jersey telling them we were getting tired of their crap and they better do something about it. The governor commuted his sentence and let him out.

Jersey had always been doing things this way, but it never really go the attention of the rest of the country. Very shortly after, Jersey started arresting people from out of state for carrying guns. They would get pulled over, give the cop their license and their carry license and announced that they were carrying. Off to jail. This has happened before over the decades, but it never really got much media. Plus, many Jersey cops would tell the guy or girl, "You can't have a gun here, turn your car around and leave the state" because it was obvious the person had no idea the trouble they were getting into. But now the Jersey cops don't give passes. Well, the country went friggin ballistic. That was it, enough was enough. The Jersey AG wrote a memo to all district AGs and the police telling them that if there is reason to believe an out of stater did not know they could not carry a gun to let them go.

So, now in New Jersey, the criminals are not prosecuted*, people from out of state are not prosecuted*, only the Jersey citizens are thrown in jail If I lived there I would be Fing Pissed!

*Not in all cases, do not try it yourself.

[nords]

We have a handful of states with strict gun laws and maybe two with very harsh penalties, one being New Jersey.

Did watching the Sopranos scare them into making tougher laws

[Jandamurra]

Genesis93 ,,,,,, you summed it up well.
It's not just Victoria that has issues with locking up crims here in South Australia, Australia's back waters, the crims don't have to go to prison they can nominate Home Detention and get it.
But heaven forbid if one gets caught with a .22lr round dropped while spotlighting and unknowingly ends up lodged somewhere under the front seat you are instantly treated as Australia's most wanted criminal. No slap on the wrist for you, but you do get to see the full force of the law first hand.
That's how f***** up this country can be...... minority rule while the majority remain quiet in disgust,,,,,,,,, .

We have a handful of states with strict gun laws and maybe two with very harsh penalties, one being New Jersey. One of the common complaints is that they often let criminals plea away the gun violations and just prosecute them on the underlying crime. Law abiding citizens? No way, they get the full sentence for the gun violations. Makes it pretty obvious what the real purpose of gun laws is, doesn't it?

New Jersey requires a carry license to have a handgun anywhere except your home, the range, your business, etc. Unfortunately, New Jersey is one of the 3 states where it is nearly impossible to get a carry permit. Cops found a law abiding citizen with two unloaded handguns in his trunk, in his garage, at his apartment. Determined he had been taking them to and from his mom's house, put him in jail FOR SEVEN YEARS.

Fortunately for him, the case got some media attention. The country was so outraged that Attorney's General from like 30 other states started writing nasty letters to New Jersey telling them we were getting tired of their crap and they better do something about it. The governor commuted his sentence and let him out.

Jersey had always been doing things this way, but it never really go the attention of the rest of the country. Very shortly after, Jersey started arresting people from out of state for carrying guns. They would get pulled over, give the cop their license and their carry license and announced that they were carrying. Off to jail. This has happened before over the decades, but it never really got much media. Plus, many Jersey cops would tell the guy or girl, "You can't have a gun here, turn your car around and leave the state" because it was obvious the person had no idea the trouble they were getting into. But now the Jersey cops don't give passes. Well, the country went friggin ballistic. That was it, enough was enough. The Jersey AG wrote a memo to all district AGs and the police telling them that if there is reason to believe an out of stater did not know they could not carry a gun to let them go.

So, now in New Jersey, the criminals are not prosecuted*, people from out of state are not prosecuted*, only the Jersey citizens are thrown in jail If I lived there I would be Fing Pissed!

*Not in all cases, do not try it yourself.

New Jersey is right next to New York City, home of turn-of-the-century gangster Tim "Big Tim" Sullivan, instigator of New York's tough anti-gun laws.Maybe New Jersey caught the disease from New York.
Essentially, a big part of the push for gun control in the US started with a crime boss not wanting his employers to have any trouble with innocent people who sometimes defended themselves-
http://nypost.com/2012/01/16/the-strang ... -gun-laws/ .
To quote some of the article,

The Tammany Tiger needed to rein in the gangs without completely crippling them. Enter Big Tim with the perfect solution: Ostensibly disarm the gangs — and ordinary citizens, too — while still keeping them on the streets.

In fact, he gave the game away during the debate on the bill, which flew through Albany: “I want to make it so the young thugs in my district will get three years for carrying dangerous weapons instead of getting a sentence in the electric chair a year from now.”

Sullivan knew the gangs would flout the law, but appearances were more important than results. Young toughs took to sewing the pockets of their coats shut, so that cops couldn’t plant firearms on them, and many gangsters stashed their weapons inside their girlfriends’ “bird cages” — wire-mesh fashion contraptions around which women would wind their hair.

Ordinary citizens, on the other hand, were disarmed, which solved another problem: Gangsters had been bitterly complaining to Tammany that their victims sometimes shot back at them.

So gang violence didn’t drop under the Sullivan Act — and really took off after the passage of Prohibition in 1920. Spectacular gangland rubouts — like the 1932 machine-gunning of “Mad Dog” Coll in a drugstore phone booth on 23rd Street — became the norm.

Congressional hearings in the 1950s, followed by the feds’ prolonged assault on the Mafia succeeded in tamping down traditional gangland violence, but guns are still easily available to criminals.

[Title_II]

You are right on the mark.

[VICHunter]

OK, I figured out Commodore is a car. They look pretty cool but they put the steering wheel on the wrong side. Other than that, I have no idea what is going on. What is going on?

A ubiquitous (but unexciting) Australian car is all it is.