Capping Breech Loaders

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Capping Breech Loaders

Post by perentie » 03 Apr 2025, 7:34 am

Waiting on the PTA for a Sharps 1862 Carbine I bought off Pedersoli.
Why? Because I havnt seen one let alone fired one.
Anyone one on here shoot one on a regular basis? How many shots before the Breech Block seizes up?
Read a fair bit on different forums about mods etc but all in the US. Just interested in local knowledge.

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Re: Capping Breech Loaders

Post by perentie » 10 Apr 2025, 9:40 am

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PTA not here yet but I went into the Dealer here to see it. Roger had put the mould I bought into the pack so I got it and bought it home and cast a few this morning. Cant make any paper cartridges yet until I see how long the chamber is.
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Re: Capping Breech Loaders

Post by perentie » 12 Apr 2025, 9:20 am

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While I am waiting I thought I would have some practice making a paper cartridge.
These are the long tail ones to use the paper cutter function. Just to show how it was back in the day in the transition from muzzleloaders to brass cartridge..
From what I have read ,they are not particularly consistent in their performance but I will leave a few in the box and use the flat base cartridge for target work like everyone else. :)

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I could not find any cotton but remembered I had some surgical suture thread left in my kit from "Before Yet" when I was with Vet Services of The Dept of Ag Stock and Fisheries in TPNG.
That seems to work. When and if I get my hands on the Carbine I can measure up the chamber and roll some real ones.
Cant wait 8-)

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Re: Capping Breech Loaders

Post by Tinker » 12 Apr 2025, 12:35 pm

Fascinating.
There are the NSW colonial-issued Calisher and Terry capping breechloaders that appear for sale every now and then. It would be a great project to get one of them up and running again. I'll be very interested to see how your paper cartridges go. Do you have a special jig for making them up?
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Re: Capping Breech Loaders

Post by perentie » 13 Apr 2025, 5:37 am

The only jig for these so far is 6 inches of half inch copper rod I drilled a hole in to hold the base of the bullet while I tie the patch on. I hold it vertically in a vice.
When I go to the flat based cartridges I will have to make up a different arrangement, as then the flat base of tissue paper gets glued on, powder inserted, then bullet either tied on or glued on last.

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Re: Capping Breech Loaders

Post by Noisydad » 15 Apr 2025, 7:44 pm

That'll be fun perfecting those loads AND it'll beat the crap out watching the idiot box!
There's still a few of Wile. E Coyote's ideas that I haven't tried yet.
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