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Re: Climate porn

Post by flutch » 08 Oct 2019, 9:00 pm

Ziad wrote: And fluth, mate i honestly don't understand your ramblings.. maybe you are socrates... maybe the only argument you can come up is attack the person.




well it really is quite simple. when the person(s), (acknowledging I didn't address any one person on here in an ad hominem attack/remark), are starting their assertion beyond a provable point, as to say they are needing an assumed prerequisite be accepted as fact in lieu of actual data, there is no point to address, they weren't there/then, aren't there/then, can't be there/then, can't actually do any experiment to prove/disprove their hypothesis. this is the intrinsic issue. they don't have enough data and can't get it, so they make assumptions and from then on people are expected to inherit those assumptions, no matter how much of an estimate they have, its still just a guess and is therefore speculation. so until they can actually set their experiment up with a control, and with control over variables in multiple experiments there is no way for them to conclusively say anything. therefore it is austerity for the sake of speculation to tax/arbitrate against anyone or anything based upon what is essentially a loose estimate based on an estimate.

Given this, you are left with no other counter but to look at the modus operandi and the state of their being to establish a reasoning for their actions and words, likelihood is they're pretty left leaning, and given that I will happily dismiss them instantly. If you cant follow on that's fine, I don't expect everyone to be able to think past their confirmation bias and emotions.
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Re: Climate porn

Post by bigfellascott » 09 Oct 2019, 1:08 am

flutch wrote:if it has a tax on it in lieu of actual solutions its bulls**t, its really that simple.


Pretty much how I see it too. :D Haven't heard anything about the Ozone Layer in many years, whatever happened with that problem? :unknown:
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Re: Climate porn

Post by TassieTiger » 09 Oct 2019, 1:36 pm

bigfellascott wrote:
flutch wrote:if it has a tax on it in lieu of actual solutions its bulls**t, its really that simple.


Pretty much how I see it too. :D Haven't heard anything about the Ozone Layer in many years, whatever happened with that problem? :unknown:


Der, they filled it with co2...geeez.
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Re: Climate porn

Post by bigfellascott » 09 Oct 2019, 8:06 pm

TassieTiger wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:
flutch wrote:if it has a tax on it in lieu of actual solutions its bulls**t, its really that simple.


Pretty much how I see it too. :D Haven't heard anything about the Ozone Layer in many years, whatever happened with that problem? :unknown:


Der, they filled it with co2...geeez.


Yeah ya probably right with all the hot air that's been spouted about "Climate Change/Global Warming" :lol:

All based on dodgy figures and very questionable computer modeling to come up with the answer to suit their agenda - heaven forbid they use real science and facts, I guess that would have gotten in the way of their version of reality? :crazy:
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Re: Climate porn

Post by Ziad » 10 Oct 2019, 4:40 am

How many real scientists are there who are "anti" climate change brigade compared to the "pro" fake scientists?

Anyway you didn't answer my questions Scott
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Re: Climate porn

Post by bigfellascott » 10 Oct 2019, 5:43 am

Ziad wrote:How many real scientists are there who are "anti" climate change brigade compared to the "pro" fake scientists?

Anyway you didn't answer my questions Scott


Sorry Ziad what questions were they again? :unknown:
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Re: Climate porn

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Re: Climate porn

Post by bigfellascott » 10 Oct 2019, 6:09 am

The earths always in a state of change Ziad, It's a living thing I guess, there are many influences as to why that is so (way to complex for me to really understand) but there is plenty of evidence to back that up (I've put plenty of information up for you to read/watch) yes pollution isn't a great thing but we all contribute to it each and every day of our lives, doesn't it do damage to the earth? Hard to really say with any degree of accuracy?

One things for sure we will always pollute the earth in one way or another, everytime we eat, breath, s**t we are polluting the earth - what are we to do stop living?

Everytime you pull the trigger you are punching out carbon and other pollutants, you do realise that surely? Every time you fart you are putting out pollutants in the way of tiny microscopical poo particals, every time you flush the toilet poo particals radiate out about 6ft or so - life goes on and theres no reason to get all hysterical about it running around with arms in the air flailing about like chicken little proclaiming the world will end if we don't reduce CO2 which as we now know isn't some evil "Pollutant" it's very natural and very important to our planet and all that live within it.
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Re: Climate porn

Post by TassieTiger » 10 Oct 2019, 7:18 am

I think Stix has it 100%.
"Its a competition as to who can best manipulate the other, & their peers, with one bit of info...to leave out certain bits of conflicting info/data is done with every argument...from every side...I think the climate issue is so incredibly deep & far reaching, we wont get to know the truth..."

It's all about greed and who can screw over whom for their own benefit and its getting to the point where, the repercussions as seen as collateral of war...it's a sad direction.
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Re: Climate porn

Post by bigfellascott » 10 Oct 2019, 9:08 am

TassieTiger wrote:I think Stix has it 100%.
"Its a competition as to who can best manipulate the other, & their peers, with one bit of info...to leave out certain bits of conflicting info/data is done with every argument...from every side...I think the climate issue is so incredibly deep & far reaching, we wont get to know the truth..."

It's all about greed and who can screw over whom for their own benefit and its getting to the point where, the repercussions as seen as collateral of war...it's a sad direction.


Yep very sad, they don't want the truth out there about how dodgy the whole thing really has become.

If you don't agree with the narrative you are attacked.

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Re: Climate porn

Post by flutch » 11 Oct 2019, 1:43 pm

Ziad wrote:How many real scientists are there who are "anti" climate change brigade compared to the "pro" fake scientists?

Anyway you didn't answer my questions Scott



A great many, a very great many, Not going to post a list here as it would be exhaustive when a simple google search can do just the same.
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Re: Climate porn

Post by flutch » 11 Oct 2019, 1:59 pm

as I've stated before the main issues with the entire premise of the anthropogenic global warming crowd is they don't actually have data beyond speculation, if you don't have a reliable base line or reference point and a large amount of very raw data for every variable (and I mean EVERY variable in the system), that can be reviewed from that reference point or base line without bias or speculation you don't actually have any "facts" you just have hypothesis. now their assumptions go way back before recorded history so instantly you can rightly assume they don't actually know what the hell they're on about, as any speculative or circumstantial thing can be falsely attributed to any other speculative or hypothetical thing. They then, frequently and smugly, say "well prove us wrong" knowing they have set the goal posts into such impossible time frames (centuries to millions of years). The failing there however is they are doing this without actually proving anything themselves. to date climate "scientists" have been extremely wrong more often than they have been slightly correct, especially those who are commercialised, doing book circuits, promoting politicians, doing media circuits. and the greatest pushers of the ideology have all very much so failed to give retrospective reasoning for their failings, the likes of Al Gore, Bill Nye, etc etc. This is nothing more than a joiner cult of people who feel fulfilled by following the profiteers of the ideology, the very baseless and unscientific and speculative and sadly profitable ideology. people that get swept up in it are needy and seek to only for the moral lift they feel they're getting for doing so.
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Re: Climate porn

Post by flutch » 11 Oct 2019, 2:11 pm

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Re: Climate porn

Post by bigfellascott » 11 Oct 2019, 2:58 pm

flutch wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlC02NsIt0


:lol: He gets it! :drinks:
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Re: Climate porn

Post by Bugman » 11 Oct 2019, 3:24 pm

I believe in climate change. One day its wet, one day it's fine, one day it's cold, one day it's hot. Yep. Climate changes regularly in my book.
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Re: Climate porn

Post by marksman » 11 Oct 2019, 5:40 pm

flutch wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlC02NsIt0


I like this guy :thumbsup: :drinks: Dan the man
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Re: Climate porn

Post by Stix » 11 Oct 2019, 6:11 pm

flutch wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlC02NsIt0


Yea..well...short & to the point...how it should be...!

Thats why the powers to be strategically placed that young "untrained innocent school girl" in the world media spotlight with the "How dare you" speech on climate Armageddon that is apparently coming....nothing more than dirty manipulative extremist emotive tactics against the likes of common sense as is in this clip...

Anyway...the woman in that clip...

She seems a little uptight... :|

No wedding ring... 8-)

Im single... ;)

Maybe i could help... :unknown:

Just saying.. ... ... ....its been a while ya know.... :o :silent:

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Re: Climate porn

Post by bigfellascott » 11 Oct 2019, 6:18 pm

Stix wrote:
flutch wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlC02NsIt0


Yea..well...short & to the point...how it should be...!

Thats why the powers to be strategically placed that young "untrained innocent school girl" in the world media spotlight with the "How dare you" speech on climate Armageddon that is apparently coming....nothing more than dirty manipulative extremist emotive tactics against the likes of common sense as is in this clip...

Anyway...the woman in that clip...

She seems a little uptight... :|

No wedding ring... 8-)

Im single... ;)

Maybe i could help... :unknown:

Just saying.. ... ... ....its been a while ya know.... :o :silent:

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It was probably Gretas mum - it was crazy enough to be :lol:
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