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Re: Qld State Election

Post by mchughcb » 27 Oct 2024, 11:52 am

Nond for Katter. They have enough without him.
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by Wapiti » 27 Oct 2024, 1:52 pm

It's good to be a member of this forum and get the opinions of people from different places.
You can really tell where your support will come from this way, and more. Unfortunately it looks like city and country are quite separate.
I'm not wrong in realising who are the people are rusted on, ears painted on diehards getting jollies being reamed, so they can blame someone else and scream, and those with reasoning ability between their ears. Unfortunately, election results prove the latter are a minority.

Can't wait to see Crisafulli tick all the promise boxes he made. I'm not holding my breath. We all think he's a one term wonder, only hope for him is that if Giggles Miles stays as oppo leader, he'll get a second term. He can govern in his own right, so it's all on him.
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by bigrich » 27 Oct 2024, 1:54 pm

Lidia Thorpe, don’t get me started on that attention seeking clown. She set her cause back 20 years. She’s not a good role model for aboriginal Australia , Agressive , divisive, no intellectual savvy at all . How the Christ is she even a senator
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by Wapiti » 27 Oct 2024, 4:46 pm

bigrich wrote:Lidia Thorpe, don’t get me started on that attention seeking clown. She set her cause back 20 years. She’s not a good role model for aboriginal Australia , Agressive , divisive, no intellectual savvy at all . How the Christ is she even a senator

Greens mate. She was just what they are after at the time, and she used them to get on the taxpayers teat.
For justification, just look at the proven cases of bullying, sexual harassment and racism claims amongst elected Greens Senators over the last 3 years, all swept under the carpet, no ramifications.
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by bigrich » 27 Oct 2024, 5:16 pm

Wapiti wrote:. Unfortunately it looks like city and country are quite separate.


not all costal dwellers are fools . i grew up in logan when a lot of it was bush,before masses of imigrants and urban sprawl took over , and identify with country folks faaaaar better than brisbane yuppies or gold coasters . trust me , there's more and more old school blue collar aussies in the outer fringes of the cities who are wise to what's going on. only real option in my electorate was ON . in the upcoming federal election i'll probably put KAP first as they seem to have the numbers . bring it on , time for a backlash against woke agenda major parties :thumbsup:
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Post by Bugman » 27 Oct 2024, 5:39 pm

I think you could add Steven Miles to that. Saw his post election speech on the telly. What a sore loser. Did not congratulate the new premier on his election victory but mouthed off as to what the Labor Party will be doing monitoring the Libs etc every move.
Although I am not a Queenslander, (I have stacks of relatives living there), I think good old boy Steve can take his bat and ball and go home....and permanently stay there. OR Maybe go on a dinner date with Lidia Thorpe. :o
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by bigrich » 27 Oct 2024, 7:07 pm

Bugman wrote:I think you could add Steven Miles to that. Saw his post election speech on the telly. What a sore loser. Did not congratulate the new premier on his election victory but mouthed off as to what the Labor Party will be doing monitoring the Libs etc every move.
Although I am not a Queenslander, (I have stacks of relatives living there), I think good old boy Steve can take his bat and ball and go home....and permanently stay there. OR Maybe go on a dinner date with Lidia Thorpe. :o


steven miles and lidia thorpe in a UFC fight would be entertaining ......... :lol:
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by alexjones » 27 Oct 2024, 7:54 pm

bigrich wrote:
Bugman wrote:I think you could add Steven Miles to that. Saw his post election speech on the telly. What a sore loser. Did not congratulate the new premier on his election victory but mouthed off as to what the Labor Party will be doing monitoring the Libs etc every move.
Although I am not a Queenslander, (I have stacks of relatives living there), I think good old boy Steve can take his bat and ball and go home....and permanently stay there. OR Maybe go on a dinner date with Lidia Thorpe. :o


steven miles and lidia thorpe in a UFC fight would be entertaining ......... :lol:



I am a degenrate gambler. My money would be on lidia. She would drop him! Haha
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by Wapiti » 28 Oct 2024, 6:16 am

bigrich wrote:
Wapiti wrote:. Unfortunately it looks like city and country are quite separate.


not all costal dwellers are fools . i grew up in logan when a lot of it was bush,before masses of imigrants and urban sprawl took over , and identify with country folks faaaaar better than brisbane yuppies or gold coasters . trust me , there's more and more old school blue collar aussies in the outer fringes of the cities who are wise to what's going on. only real option in my electorate was ON . in the upcoming federal election i'll probably put KAP first as they seem to have the numbers . bring it on , time for a backlash against woke agenda major parties :thumbsup:


I agree, not fools at all, but simply blind to the future agenda, or so gullible to the paid-off media and unable to see past their noses, but most likely, bought off by lies and gullible to being fed BS - what is certain is that the majority do not support the country people's votes at all. The seats won show it.
Majority wins seats, although... the full preferential system plays some games. I only hope that Crisafulli goes through with his promise of non-compulsory preferential voting, to stop your vote moving ANYWHERE you don't want it to, past your first or 2nd pick.

But looking at our own rural voting location, out of a total 26,976 votes, 1066 were informal. What a disappointment, especially since historically, those most likely to vote informal are disillusioned angry people p1ssed off with the. system. Fair enough, but FFS educate yourselves so you can change things! To my Sigma personality, that IS a fool.

I'm actually not completely happy with even the choices I supported, but for me they were the best choices. I wasn't petty and juvenile and voted against someone because of their media persona or they way they speak, or for someone because they bullsh1tted me and handed out lollies. I voted for the policies closest to what fixes the issues most people with an IQ over 75 complain about. I firmly believe that we CAN mold things with the right people IF there is support.
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by alexjones » 28 Oct 2024, 7:17 am

The problem is most people are just politically apathetic. They have no idea how anything works. As an example they complain about the cost of everything yet have no clue that every single aspect of their life goes back to politics. Everything reverts back to a law or a government regulation. The bigger government gets the worse life becomes yet people are so dumb they think the answer is more government and more laws and more regulations.

Australians are so politically lazy. Say what you will about the French but they love a good political riot.
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Post by Wapiti » 28 Oct 2024, 8:36 am

That's so true.
I believe the Italians have worked it out.

Look at the Argentinian President, Javier Milei. He proves all this largesse and career swamp creatures can be scrapped and the country turned around very fast, proving the same policies we want people to wake up to here but to no avail. The bloke takes no free lunches for himself and leads "down" with the people. But it took the people to finally wake up, here it doesn't look good at all, they aren't completely ruined yet. Politics is all about "me, me, me"

Compare that to the weed here, feathering his own nest whilst his ministers/policies are making it impossible for everyone else. And we have people so naive that they think that's leadership, and vote for personalities not principles.

Thing is, the urban shooters' guns (and most other personal freedoms) will be long gone before they wake up. That's my fear. Do we bother sticking together, or look after ourselves?
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Oct 2024, 10:33 am

alexjones wrote:The problem is most people are just politically apathetic. They have no idea how anything works. As an example they complain about the cost of everything yet have no clue that every single aspect of their life goes back to politics. Everything reverts back to a law or a government regulation. The bigger government gets the worse life becomes yet people are so dumb they think the answer is more government and more laws and more regulations.

Australians are so politically lazy. Say what you will about the French but they love a good political riot.



They are clueless.
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Post by alexjones » 28 Oct 2024, 11:26 am

Oldbloke wrote:
alexjones wrote:The problem is most people are just politically apathetic. They have no idea how anything works. As an example they complain about the cost of everything yet have no clue that every single aspect of their life goes back to politics. Everything reverts back to a law or a government regulation. The bigger government gets the worse life becomes yet people are so dumb they think the answer is more government and more laws and more regulations.

Australians are so politically lazy. Say what you will about the French but they love a good political riot.



They are clueless.


It is why I have mentally checked out and given up on the country. I am extracting whatever resources I can from the confides of the current system for the betterment of myself and my kin but do not care about the country anymore. Why should I enable poor behaviour?
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by bigrich » 28 Oct 2024, 4:28 pm

alexjones wrote:The problem is most people are just politically apathetic. They have no idea how anything works. As an example they complain about the cost of everything yet have no clue that every single aspect of their life goes back to politics. Everything reverts back to a law or a government regulation. The bigger government gets the worse life becomes yet people are so dumb they think the answer is more government and more laws and more regulations.

Australians are so politically lazy. Say what you will about the French but they love a good political riot.


so true :thumbsup:
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by alexjones » 28 Oct 2024, 7:18 pm

Theres a theory that the name alludes me at the minute but essentially it is that an organisation or a entity etc will always start out with good intentions. However the longer it operates for it will cease to have the original good intentions that founded it but will only operate to serve itself and to keep itself operating.

Unions, governments, world organisations like the UN and the WEF etc etc all fit into this.


Unions started out with good intentions but have lost their way!
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by Billo » 29 Oct 2024, 8:54 am

alexjones wrote:Theres a theory that the name alludes me at the minute but essentially it is that an organisation or a entity etc will always start out with good intentions. However the longer it operates for it will cease to have the original good intentions that founded it but will only operate to serve itself and to keep itself operating.

Unions, governments, world organisations like the UN and the WEF etc etc all fit into this.


Unions started out with good intentions but have lost their way!


Organised workers are a bad thing :crazy:
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by alexjones » 29 Oct 2024, 9:08 am

Billo wrote:
alexjones wrote:Theres a theory that the name alludes me at the minute but essentially it is that an organisation or a entity etc will always start out with good intentions. However the longer it operates for it will cease to have the original good intentions that founded it but will only operate to serve itself and to keep itself operating.

Unions, governments, world organisations like the UN and the WEF etc etc all fit into this.


Unions started out with good intentions but have lost their way!


Organised workers are a bad thing :crazy:


Have you seen some of the stuff unions do? A mine I was on they stopped work because the company stopped supplying MILO in the crib room. And they got rid of the premixed cordial machine and you had to make your own cordial from the bottle. Grown F ing men complaining about having to mix their own cordial and having no MILO. Unions have for the most part become a joke.
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Post by Oldbloke » 29 Oct 2024, 11:45 am

:lol: :lol:
Some unionised construction site are just a huge kindergarten.
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Post by bigrich » 29 Oct 2024, 12:25 pm

alexjones wrote:
Billo wrote:
alexjones wrote:Theres a theory that the name alludes me at the minute but essentially it is that an organisation or a entity etc will always start out with good intentions. However the longer it operates for it will cease to have the original good intentions that founded it but will only operate to serve itself and to keep itself operating.

Unions, governments, world organisations like the UN and the WEF etc etc all fit into this.


Unions started out with good intentions but have lost their way!


Organised workers are a bad thing :crazy:


Have you seen some of the stuff unions do? A mine I was on they stopped work because the company stopped supplying MILO in the crib room. And they got rid of the premixed cordial machine and you had to make your own cordial from the bottle. Grown F ing men complaining about having to mix their own cordial and having no MILO. Unions have for the most part become a joke.


When I was at bradken Runcorn plant, day shift went on strike cause the canteen had no orange juice. Seriously….
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Post by mchughcb » 29 Oct 2024, 8:14 pm

bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:
Billo wrote:
alexjones wrote:Theres a theory that the name alludes me at the minute but essentially it is that an organisation or a entity etc will always start out with good intentions. However the longer it operates for it will cease to have the original good intentions that founded it but will only operate to serve itself and to keep itself operating.

Unions, governments, world organisations like the UN and the WEF etc etc all fit into this.


Unions started out with good intentions but have lost their way!


Organised workers are a bad thing :crazy:


Have you seen some of the stuff unions do? A mine I was on they stopped work because the company stopped supplying MILO in the crib room. And they got rid of the premixed cordial machine and you had to make your own cordial from the bottle. Grown F ing men complaining about having to mix their own cordial and having no MILO. Unions have for the most part become a joke.


When I was at bradken Runcorn plant, day shift went on strike cause the canteen had no orange juice. Seriously….


What were they casting?
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Post by bigrich » 30 Oct 2024, 4:19 am

mchughcb wrote:
bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:]Theres a theory that the name alludes me at the minute but essentially it is that an organisation or a entity etc will always start out with good intentions. However the longer it operates for it will cease to have the original good intentions that founded it but will only operate to serve itself and to keep itself operating.

Unions, governments, world organisations like the UN and the WEF etc etc all fit into this.


Unions started out with good intentions but have lost their way!


Organised workers are a bad thing :crazy:


Have you seen some of the stuff unions do? A mine I was on they stopped work because the company stopped supplying MILO in the crib room. And they got rid of the premixed cordial machine and you had to make your own cordial from the bottle. Grown F ing men complaining about having to mix their own cordial and having no MILO. Unions have for the most part become a joke.


When I was at bradken Runcorn plant, day shift went on strike cause the canteen had no orange juice. Seriously….[/quote]

What were they casting?[/quote]

Rail gear, the bolsters and side frames that make up the bogies under ore cars, the couplers and draw gear . Crawler tracks for drag lines , some were 3 meters long, 5k each, 90 shoes per side on a machine. Also used to cast track pads for Komatsu, Leibher and caterpillar and ship them internationally. Once the unions power got eroded away management did some shocking things in the way of shafting people so they didn’t have to pay redundancy. If not for union advice and support they would’ve shafted me. Unions are a nesesary evil. What opened my eyes was being told at a large on site meeting who I should vote for in a state election, and they tried shaming people who voted differently. Unions is how labour gets its numbers, but the Labour Party has strayed from its roots. Outlaw bike clubs infiltrating unions is nothing new either. The other thing to remember about unions is they were strongly affiliated with the communist party in the UK and America after World War One and two. As in czarist Russia, lots of poor peasant soldiers were disillusioned with being used as cannon fodder and the communist used this for their own ends. Uk secret service considered a Bolshevik style uprising a serious threat to the monarchy. Modern communists are more refined but no less a threat. So yeah, I’m not a fan of unions and the Labour Party
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Post by mchughcb » 30 Oct 2024, 6:47 am

Very interesting.
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Post by Oldbloke » 30 Oct 2024, 8:28 am

It's true, some unions are the pits. But some are sensible and do a good job.

Don't forget, companies join "associations " put simply they are company unions pushing their own agendas.
Wage theft, and not paying superannuation are becoming common practices.

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Re: Qld State Election

Post by Bugman » 31 Oct 2024, 4:31 pm

Many years ago I was working at the Darling Harbour redevelopment sight. I enjoyed working there and my fellow tradies, were mostly,
a great bunch...BUT two stop work scenarios occurred whilst I was there. One was for the food aromas drifting over the sight from nearby Chinatown, so until a special loading was promised, we couldn't go back to work. The other, was a 24 hour strike threatened,
as their were no pie warmers in the lunch sheds. Go figure. Didn't really bother me and some of the other tradies, but it was one in, all in.
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Re: Qld State Election

Post by alexjones » 01 Nov 2024, 1:45 pm

The cabinet sworn in today. Lets see how they govern. I hope something good comes for shooters. Campbell Newman gave us like for like swaps and 10 year licences for A and B guns(everything else is 5)and there was movement for pistols on private land under him.

I will be happy if the only change we get is pistols for private land. Even if we still have to do our club shoots so be it. just allow us to use our own property on our own private land.
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Post by NTSOG » 03 Nov 2024, 10:21 am

bigrich: "The other thing to remember about unions is they were strongly affiliated with the communist party in the UK and America after World War One and two."

The unions also blocked shipment of urgent supplies to Australian military personnel fighting overseas in the early part of WW II until the Third Reich invaded the USSR. After that they ceased their blockade because their overseas master Joe Stalin was in a funk and needed all the help he could get.
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