4WDTV review of LEVTAC Citadel

[5-0]

Can you get a more cringeworthy review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-nf1NH5pzo

What the hell is going on with the sight choice, is this the cool thing to do these days?

[Wm.Traynor]

Can you get a more cringeworthy review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-nf1NH5pzo

What the hell is going on with the sight choice, is this the cool thing to do these days?

Agree 5-0 and I can get better groups with open sights albeit from my 30/30.

[bigpete]

Pathetic. Who sights a rifle,any rifle,shooting offhand ?

[straightshooter]

Why so serious?
It's simply an infomercial targeting a by and large uninformed audience who might buy the monstrosity being presented on an impulsive whim.
It's of necessity different to all the other infomercials that target shooters who believe they are knowledgeable about firearms.

[bladeracer]

Pathetic. Who sights a rifle, any rifle, shooting offhand ?

I zero my lever-actions offhand because that's how I shoot them. I zero them first rested off the ute, but then I fine tune the zero shooting offhand to get them spot on.

[bladeracer]

Why so serious?
It's simply an infomercial targeting a by and large uninformed audience who might buy the monstrosity being presented on an impulsive whim.
It's of necessity different to all the other infomercials that target shooters who believe they are knowledgeable about firearms.

I really wish he cared more about the environment by not educating potential firearms owners that it's fine to shoot at trees. He could at least have found a dead tree if he really has to hang his targets from the native flora.

[stihl88]

As a pretty bad tinnitis sufferer I cringe when seeing someone rawdogging with near earpro.

[bigpete]

Pathetic. Who sights a rifle, any rifle, shooting offhand ?

I zero my lever-actions offhand because that's how I shoot them. I zero them first rested off the ute, but then I fine tune the zero shooting offhand to get them spot on.

Proving my point....

[stihl88]

And what monstrosity of a holographic or red dot even is that? Might explain the grouping...

[bladeracer]

Pathetic. Who sights a rifle, any rifle, shooting offhand ?

I zero my lever-actions offhand because that's how I shoot them. I zero them first rested off the ute, but then I fine tune the zero shooting offhand to get them spot on.

Proving my point....

What point? Lots of people zero offhand if that's how they intend to use the firearm. I make sure the sights get me "on paper" from some sort of rest, it generally only takes one shot to confirm that, then I actually zero it offhand. I can't boresight any of my levers without stripping them, and the only one I would do that with in the field is the Norinco JW21, all the others have too many small parts that will disappear.

[bigpete]

Pathetic. Who sights a rifle, any rifle, shooting offhand ?

I zero my lever-actions offhand because that's how I shoot them. I zero them first rested off the ute, but then I fine tune the zero shooting offhand to get them spot on.

Proving my point....

What point? Lots of people zero offhand if that's how they intend to use the firearm. I make sure the sights get me "on paper" from some sort of rest, it generally only takes one shot to confirm that, then I actually zero it offhand. I can't boresight any of my levers without stripping them, and the only one I would do that with in the field is the Norinco JW21, all the others have too many small parts that will disappear.

You use a rest to fine tune though yeah ?
Btw,I rarely use a rest for hunting,but I always sight in off one

[bladeracer]

You use a rest to fine tune though yeah ?
Btw,I rarely use a rest for hunting,but I always sight in off one

No, I use a rested position to ensure the rifle is on the target, then I just shoot offhand to zero. If you plan to shoot off a bipod then zero off a bipod, if you plan to shoot offhand then zero offhand.

[R95]

2:50 hope no one comes around the corner while he’s shooting down the road.

[on_one_wheel]

As a pretty bad tinnitis sufferer I cringe when seeing someone rawdogging with near earpro.

You too ... my ears ring like crazy 24/7
Not much fun hey.

[bladeracer]

As a pretty bad tinnitis sufferer I cringe when seeing someone rawdogging with near earpro.

I've had tinnitus most of my life, primarily due to high-speed motorcycle riding wind noise, but a few years of a lot of shooting when I was a teen probably helped, I didn't even own earplugs back then. I still don't use earpro though, I just find it very uncomfortable and don't like not being able to hear people talking around me. When I do remember to carry earpro I rarely remember to use it. But I am trying to form the habit.

I ordered some ear plugs from Earjobs this week and they arrived today. I wore them for two hours and found them to be very comfortable. By feel, I really don't notice them at all, so I'm sure I'll be able to wear them all day at the range without any comfort issues, but it is annoying not being able to hear very well what is happening around me. They're Axil X30i, basic ear plugs but with "doors" in them that you can click open to talk. There is a difference between the two positions but I can't say it's significant yet. I had thought you would click them open to talk to people but they're still quite sound-blocking when they're open. I think I'll have to spend the money on electronic ones eventually but I'll give these a go for now. I'm doing a fair amount of shooting, more than 500 high-velocity .22LR, about 100rds of low-velocity .38 Special every week at home, and some high-velocity .357Mag, as well as several range sessions at the pistol clubs each month. I'm also still shooting a small amount of high-velocity centrefire rounds as time allows, not to mention all the chainsaw work we do. Muzzle-braked .223 fired within a stone quarry is probably the loudest I'm hearing every month but it's far from painfully loud.

Adults make their own choices, but if there are kids around they have to wear ear muffs.

[bladeracer]

As a pretty bad tinnitis sufferer I cringe when seeing someone rawdogging with near earpro.

You too ... my ears ring like crazy 24/7
Not much fun hey.

For many years mine was like people conversing in the room next door, but I couldn't make out what they were saying. But the last few years it's settled more to a white noise like sleeping on a beach near the surf or camping in a pine plantation with the wind constantly passing through the trees.

[5-0]

Why so serious?
It's simply an infomercial targeting a by and large uninformed audience who might buy the monstrosity being presented on an impulsive whim.
It's of necessity different to all the other infomercials that target shooters who believe they are knowledgeable about firearms.

Yes its a infomercial, that's pretty clear, but there are good infomercials and cringeworthy ones, this is the latter one.

But if you think it's a good one! that's your prerogative

[5-0]

And what monstrosity of a holographic or red dot even is that? Might explain the grouping...

It is certainly a monstrosity. Why would anyone fit this to a small lever action or any rifle

[5-0]

As a pretty bad tinnitis sufferer I cringe when seeing someone rawdogging with near earpro.

Yeah with a such a short barrel as well, might explain the massive flinch he has.

[stihl88]

Yeah the tinnitus sucks b***s, you just have to accept it and get used to it. I have backup plugs everywhere (car, house, shed) so i don't have an excuse not to use them!

I run a digital Ops-Core AMP style headset in the field, they are the ducks nuts providing users with ear protection, radio/comms and external mic/hearthrough (hold nearby conversations without downlink radio/comms) and instant noice cancellation (i.e firearms, explsvs). You can mount it to a bump helmet or run it as a stand alone head band can also double up with earplugs if ever needed

It can be a bit of a pain using them on straight-through AR style platforms especially with a low mounted scope due to the muff bumping the stock but you work around it.

If you need a smaller profile earpro (earbuds) with hearthrough & noise cancellation then pick up a set of walkers etc.

But if you need similar features like the Ops-Cores then you'd need to run with the Invisio X5 or X7's. You can also double down with muffs and don a helmet without having to remove your earpro