Jäger wrote:Forgive my ignorance, what is chop chop?
In this day and age, pot should not be illegal.
Daddybang wrote:Sorry mate chop chop is black market tobacco and yeah I agree when it comes to pot but it is illegal and generates big dollars and the things that are done to protect those dollars are pretty f@#ken disgraceful.
Stix wrote:Jagar...
I get what you are saying...but allow the 'redneck' in me to vent...
Yesterday i went to the toilet on a big commercial building site...nothin different there...but what made that visit to the trough different was the guy i said hello to while in the pisser...
He was asian...
I said "Ay mate aie'ya'gaahn"... (lol).
He looked at me strange, kinda like i headbutted the wall & he didnt know why...
So i thought id say..."hello mate" with a more pronounced & correct vocabulary...
He muttered a sound something like "heh"...
So i asked him what he's doing there...?
He looked at me like i was a fukhead & turned his head on the side like a dog does...
So i asked again, "what WORK are you doing" in a very clear voice...
He muttered a non descript sound with a confused tone & shrug of the shoulders...
So i said..."work" & mimed a lifting, cutting, & drilling motion...
He looked at me like I was a fukhead & he wanted to fight...
Muttered a noise i think was a 'sorry' & stormed off...
Just my opinion here...but if you cant be so bothered to even learn the most basic of greetings in the country you get granted immigration & working/living rights to, then you can fuk the hell off back to the sh1t slum you came from...& you can do it on a leaky boat that might not make it back as far as im concerned..!!!
Learn a bit of local custom & show some RESPECT for sh1ts sake...i certainly did when i went to his fukn country...!!!
And before you repremand me, they were struggling to basic lifting of eave cement sheets & fix them in place...
Gaznazdiak wrote:Stix wrote:Jagar...
I get what you are saying...but allow the 'redneck' in me to vent...
Yesterday i went to the toilet on a big commercial building site...nothin different there...but what made that visit to the trough different was the guy i said hello to while in the pisser...
He was asian...
I said "Ay mate aie'ya'gaahn"... (lol).
He looked at me strange, kinda like i headbutted the wall & he didnt know why...
So i thought id say..."hello mate" with a more pronounced & correct vocabulary...
He muttered a sound something like "heh"...
So i asked him what he's doing there...?
He looked at me like i was a fukhead & turned his head on the side like a dog does...
So i asked again, "what WORK are you doing" in a very clear voice...
He muttered a non descript sound with a confused tone & shrug of the shoulders...
So i said..."work" & mimed a lifting, cutting, & drilling motion...
He looked at me like I was a fukhead & he wanted to fight...
Muttered a noise i think was a 'sorry' & stormed off...
Just my opinion here...but if you cant be so bothered to even learn the most basic of greetings in the country you get granted immigration & working/living rights to, then you can fuk the hell off back to the sh1t slum you came from...& you can do it on a leaky boat that might not make it back as far as im concerned..!!!
Learn a bit of local custom & show some RESPECT for sh1ts sake...i certainly did when i went to his fukn country...!!!
And before you repremand me, they were struggling to basic lifting of eave cement sheets & fix them in place...
Not to mention muddy bootprints on the toilet seat and sh!t just about everywhere but actually in the bowl.
We had some Asian laborers on a big landscaping job once that were great workers but we had to bin them because they would not accept that you sh!t in the toilet not all over it.
Ziad wrote: I just think we should follow more Christian (most religions or just human) values and help the poor or the needy.
Ziad wrote:What everyone forgets isa that everyone's family were migrants. Ohh wait unless you speak English and are from English background the others are beneath your status. Do you also tell yourself you are not racist.
As I said we don't really take that many refugees considering how lucky and wealthy we are. I do agree not all immigrants or refugees work hard, many don't and are on benefits. So I am agreeing with you about that, I just think we should follow more Christian (most religions or just human) values and help the poor or the needy.
Hey I pay taxes and while I don't like the generational dole bloggers getting past of my money..... but accept it that they will get it. And while you are complaining about 24000 refugees getting dole which is about 500m if everyone was on dole....I don't see anyone complaining about how labour in Victoria wasted 1 billion to not build a road that is needed. Or how they wasting another 5billion to build another tunnel that no one wants or needs. Or how that liberals wasted 20billion dollars to build a s**t internet network that was obsolete before it was even built.
I have worked in semi government organizations and seem first hand how hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars are just wasted.
Lastly seen plenty of Italian, Greek, vietnamese, Chinese etc etc etc ppl who have been in this country for 40/50 years and they still cannot make a proper sentence in English.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Not arguing, just saying.
On the subject of Australia needing Chinese style breeding restrictions:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... num=&view=
Daddybang wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Not arguing, just saying.
On the subject of Australia needing Chinese style breeding restrictions:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... num=&view=
Not saying we need it now but if our population growth continues as is and our food production keeps getting impacted by drought or lack of land etc and our resources are used at the same rate (or increases)then in future it may have to be looked at.
Daddybang wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Not arguing, just saying.
On the subject of Australia needing Chinese style breeding restrictions:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... num=&view=
Not saying we need it now but if our population growth continues as is and our food production keeps getting impacted by drought or lack of land etc and our resources are used at the same rate (or increases)then in future it may have to be looked at.
Tiger650 wrote:I am wondering why Australia should import people on the basis of "refugee status" as declared by the UN and their fellow travelers ?
You socialists have a cosy/touchy feely/ view of the world which is divorced from reality, all good if consequences were confined to yourselves but we all get to eat a piece of the s#It sandwich which is "progressive" universal immigration.
We are importing many thousands of bloody Rhoninga, people of such quality that even Buddhists finally lost patience and pissed them off over the border into Bangladesh.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Daddybang wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Not arguing, just saying.
On the subject of Australia needing Chinese style breeding restrictions:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... num=&view=
Not saying we need it now but if our population growth continues as is and our food production keeps getting impacted by drought or lack of land etc and our resources are used at the same rate (or increases)then in future it may have to be looked at.
That's just the point of the link I posted though Daddybang, according to census, Births Deaths and Marriages and the Bureau of Statistics, our birthrate has been falling since 1974. On the basis of that fact, without immigrants our population would be in decline.
Not just the birthrate of the blonde haired, blue eyed, bronzed life saver types some people insist are the only real Australians, but all people in Australia, black white and brindle coloured.
More people are dying and migrating than the birthrate can keep up with.
Australia is, like every country, a business. If the stock on your farm were dying or escaping faster than they were breeding you'll have to go to the saleyards to get more or go under. It's simple economics.
I was raised to question everything and take nothing at face value. When politicians with a vested interest in stirring the easily stirred with hyperbole, and I am pointing no fingers here, see an advantage by picking an issue that is as divisive as immigration, they will without compunction, lie through their teeth to get an advantage. A simple bit of research can show their lies for what they are.
Hanson trotted out the "We are being flooded by Asians" line to stir up the rednecks, and it worked because that's what they wanted to hear.
The truth is we get far more immigrants from Britain and New Zealand, but they blend in and aren't such an easy target for sh!t stirring.
Daddybang wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Daddybang wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Not arguing, just saying.
On the subject of Australia needing Chinese style breeding restrictions:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... num=&view=
Not saying we need it now but if our population growth continues as is and our food production keeps getting impacted by drought or lack of land etc and our resources are used at the same rate (or increases)then in future it may have to be looked at.
That's just the point of the link I posted though Daddybang, according to census, Births Deaths and Marriages and the Bureau of Statistics, our birthrate has been falling since 1974. On the basis of that fact, without immigrants our population would be in decline.
Not just the birthrate of the blonde haired, blue eyed, bronzed life saver types some people insist are the only real Australians, but all people in Australia, black white and brindle coloured.
More people are dying and migrating than the birthrate can keep up with.
Australia is, like every country, a business. If the stock on your farm were dying or escaping faster than they were breeding you'll have to go to the saleyards to get more or go under. It's simple economics.
I was raised to question everything and take nothing at face value. When politicians with a vested interest in stirring the easily stirred with hyperbole, and I am pointing no fingers here, see an advantage by picking an issue that is as divisive as immigration, they will without compunction, lie through their teeth to get an advantage. A simple bit of research can show their lies for what they are.
Hanson trotted out the "We are being flooded by Asians" line to stir up the rednecks, and it worked because that's what they wanted to hear.
The truth is we get far more immigrants from Britain and New Zealand, but they blend in and aren't such an easy target for sh!t stirring.
To stick with ya stock analogy when I get to many animals for the resources on my land I shoot a couple
Maybe a decline in population wouldn't be such a bad thing for a while.
PS contrary to what has been said by some my thoughts on immigrants are based purely on population vs resources not race.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Tiger650 wrote:I am wondering why Australia should import people on the basis of "refugee status" as declared by the UN and their fellow travelers ?
You socialists have a cosy/touchy feely/ view of the world which is divorced from reality, all good if consequences were confined to yourselves but we all get to eat a piece of the s#It sandwich which is "progressive" universal immigration.
We are importing many thousands of bloody Rhoninga, people of such quality that even Buddhists finally lost patience and pissed them off over the border into Bangladesh.
A couple of those pesky facts that always cloud a good discussion.
On the Rohingya:
https://theconversation.com/the-history ... ngya-84040
Lifesaride wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Tiger650 wrote:I am wondering why Australia should import people on the basis of "refugee status" as declared by the UN and their fellow travelers ?
You socialists have a cosy/touchy feely/ view of the world which is divorced from reality, all good if consequences were confined to yourselves but we all get to eat a piece of the s#It sandwich which is "progressive" universal immigration.
We are importing many thousands of bloody Rhoninga, people of such quality that even Buddhists finally lost patience and pissed them off over the border into Bangladesh.
A couple of those pesky facts that always cloud a good discussion.
On the Rohingya:
https://theconversation.com/the-history ... ngya-84040
Interestingly the author of the article failed to delve into the main cause of the current hostilities between the buddhists and the Rohingya. There has been many years of sexual assaults on you girls and boys from the buddhist villages, so I believe fault definitely lays on both sides of the fence.
Daddybang wrote:Only problem with the arable land is that (as any farmer will know) is that apart from 1 or two very Small areas Australian soil needs phosphate added to be viable which we have to import.so we have to sell a lot of what we produce to pay for it. We also send sh@tloads of our produce overseas and then pay a premium to get it back.
Now I don't know what effect the drought is having down South but I'm watching the effects of several years of it up here and out West and I can honestly say I don't believe our resources are up to what lies a head if our population growth continues as is. So I will respectfully agree to disagree with those who believe it is.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Lifesaride wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Tiger650 wrote:I am wondering why Australia should import people on the basis of "refugee status" as declared by the UN and their fellow travelers ?
You socialists have a cosy/touchy feely/ view of the world which is divorced from reality, all good if consequences were confined to yourselves but we all get to eat a piece of the s#It sandwich which is "progressive" universal immigration.
We are importing many thousands of bloody Rhoninga, people of such quality that even Buddhists finally lost patience and pissed them off over the border into Bangladesh.
A couple of those pesky facts that always cloud a good discussion.
On the Rohingya:
https://theconversation.com/the-history ... ngya-84040
Interestingly the author of the article failed to delve into the main cause of the current hostilities between the buddhists and the Rohingya. There has been many years of sexual assaults on you girls and boys from the buddhist villages, so I believe fault definitely lays on both sides of the fence.
On the Rohingya and sexual assaults:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/worl ... rapes.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -forces-un
https://www.firstpost.com/world/rohingy ... 12763.html
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN12S0AN
I could not find one single report of Rohingya being the perpetrators of rape or sexual assaults, but so many reports of them being raped by the peaceful Buddhists of Myanmar that the UN has blacklisted their army for systematically using rape as a weapon.
Unless you pulled that accusation out of your blurter to try to bolster a spurious position, you should be able to back it up, please do.
Lifesaride wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Lifesaride wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Tiger650 wrote:I am wondering why Australia should import people on the basis of "refugee status" as declared by the UN and their fellow travelers ?
You socialists have a cosy/touchy feely/ view of the world which is divorced from reality, all good if consequences were confined to yourselves but we all get to eat a piece of the s#It sandwich which is "progressive" universal immigration.
We are importing many thousands of bloody Rhoninga, people of such quality that even Buddhists finally lost patience and pissed them off over the border into Bangladesh.
A couple of those pesky facts that always cloud a good discussion.
On the Rohingya:
https://theconversation.com/the-history ... ngya-84040
Interestingly the author of the article failed to delve into the main cause of the current hostilities between the buddhists and the Rohingya. There has been many years of sexual assaults on you girls and boys from the buddhist villages, so I believe fault definitely lays on both sides of the fence.
On the Rohingya and sexual assaults:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/worl ... rapes.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -forces-un
https://www.firstpost.com/world/rohingy ... 12763.html
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN12S0AN
I could not find one single report of Rohingya being the perpetrators of rape or sexual assaults, but so many reports of them being raped by the peaceful Buddhists of Myanmar that the UN has blacklisted their army for systematically using rape as a weapon.
Unless you pulled that accusation out of your blurter to try to bolster a spurious position, you should be able to back it up, please do.
That’s probably because each of those articles are published in very left wing sources which are prioritised over and conservative sources by the very left wing google. It was actually widely reported when the rioting started a couple of years ago, before the army stepped in yet again. I will attempt to find articles by I can guarantee they won’t be from the ny times or the guardian.
Edit
1 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18395788
2 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18497110
That’s about 3 minutes worth of looking
Gaznazdiak wrote:Daddybang wrote:Only problem with the arable land is that (as any farmer will know) is that apart from 1 or two very Small areas Australian soil needs phosphate added to be viable which we have to import.so we have to sell a lot of what we produce to pay for it. We also send sh@tloads of our produce overseas and then pay a premium to get it back.
Now I don't know what effect the drought is having down South but I'm watching the effects of several years of it up here and out West and I can honestly say I don't believe our resources are up to what lies a head if our population growth continues as is. So I will respectfully agree to disagree with those who believe it is.
Fair enough Daddybang, that's OK with me. We are all entitled to see things as our view shapes them.
And yes, we can respectfully agree to disagree.
What a boring old world it would be if everyone was the same, eh?
On the rain subject, it looks like Huey's trying to give it a go down here. Hope he's not just p***k teasing.
Lifesaride wrote:No I am definitely not suggesting that at all mate. I am simply pointing out that there is generally more to the story than is reported by some sources. As I said it was widely reported back back around 2010-14 when things started to heat up in Myanmar. I am just a little skeptical that the Rohingya are 100% blameless in this conflict. If you could point me back to where I said they deserve what they are going through at present that would be appreciated, as I don’t believe I said that or that they do in fact deserve to be displaced.
On the point of left vs right wing media, I think you may have misunderstood me. Once again you are putting words in my mouth, I never said the articles were wrong, I said that I doubted there would actually be any articles from those sources who mention the crimes of Rohingya. I just read through about a dozen articles from very left leaning sources published around 2012 and could not find a mention of any wrongdoing by the Muslim minority. I often read both left and right sources on a subject as BOTH seem to conveniently leave out the parts of the story that don’t suit their agenda.