QBE Insurance dumps firearms

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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by No1_49er » 09 Sep 2018, 12:11 pm

grandadbushy wrote:Has anybody in the know fired a letter out to the SSAA to find out what the go is with their insurance situation.
This could have a devastating effect on shooters insured with them through QBE and I presume the SSAA has kept it quiet for that very reason
I didn't know the SSAA was using QBE as an insurance and QBE can be a law unto themselves

It's a bit rich to "presume the SSAA has kept it quiet" when, as far as we know, the announcement was made a couple of days ago.
Agreed, it will have repercussions for the shooting/firearms fraternity, but we have the power to move our business elsewhere (as we will have to do) to another provider, which will surely impact on their credibility when so many policies are seen to be cancelled.

You are right to say QBE "can be a law unto themselves". They are of course a company which, as is any other, free to choose how they operate their business and therefore the T's & C's that you can either agree with, or not. If it's the latter, easy - take your business elsewhere.

And, as this is their global intention, can you imagine our US brothers not giving a good "kicking" to QBE's American counterparts?
Have a check of QBE's global tentacles and you'll see that they are spread far and wide.

Hit them where it hurts.
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by Member-Deleted » 09 Sep 2018, 12:30 pm

Yep your totally right No1_49er but being a little rich well maybe but insurance companies do have to state their intentions to gov before just dropping stuff
and that takes time so it would have been known for awhile by whom I don't know depends on who the gov let have this information nobody I presume because
it works to their agenda just another hurdle for gun owners
Then is it possible to hit them where it hurts because at the moment people use what costs them less and it may be to their cost interest to stay with QBE
And if you follow QBE's tentacles I'm pretty much sure you'll find one that will eventually leads back to a gov department
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by Cryptic » 09 Sep 2018, 3:07 pm

Might have to go check with ANZ what the go will be on my contents as they are QBE too. Made sure my safe and toys were able to be put on when signed up but now who knows.
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by doc » 11 Sep 2018, 11:10 am

Thanks Bladeracer for posting. I'm guessing QBE isn't big in America (or wont' be for much longer).

Social Justice Warriors at the heads of companies has been an ongoing concern of mine, and I've seen it in numerous industries and areas. Banks, Insurance Companies, Software Companies - mainly big businesses are now being used by some elites at the top to start pushing their own social agenda's. This is not just happening to firearms - it's a growing trend of using big muscle in an attempt to change the social landscape.

A message needs to be sent to big business - regardless of what they are pushing that the companies they control are not there at their whim to push their own ideologies upon the rest of the world!

Whilst dropping QBE as an insurer is a good start - I don't think it's enough. I think the government needs to step in and bring in some sort of regulation that stops corporate entities from trying to interfere with society. Imagine if QBE said we won't insure anyone associated with xxx political party, or we won't insure anyone who supports gay marriage, etc to try and change the political landscape?

And if they're allowed t-they will continue to use their muscle to try and sway the political and social landscape more and more!

THIS CAN NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE!
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by No1_49er » 11 Sep 2018, 11:22 am

doc wrote:Thanks Bladeracer for posting. I'm guessing QBE isn't big in America (or wont' be for much longer).

If you don't think they have a big presence in the US, check here, taken directly from the QBE web site: - https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... 56&bih=860
They do have rather long tentacles.
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by marksman » 11 Sep 2018, 1:05 pm

QBE were the company workcover used as an agent that got into strife because of the Debra Glass (Ombudsman) investigation
www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/wor ... re7li.html
the workcover part of QBE was taken over by IML,
QBE are rorter's
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 11 Sep 2018, 9:09 pm

Doc good points there mate. And I agree the companies are virtue signaling. Guns wasn't the only thing... Qantas etc did the same during the gay marriage vote.

As I see it unfortunately this will not stop, in times when a large chunk of population are frustrated by the government and opposition playing petty politics with issues that concern them, some companies will use their power to dutie signal stop they can attract and keep the type of workforce they like. Eg qantas, I would assume had a reasonably large percentage of their employees that are gay that support the marriage, while many others that while not but would also support the idea. So if they see their CEO supporting the idea, they will feel better about the company. Other times companies are waging a PR war and by supporting a popular agenda they can put themselves above the rest of the pack.

Unfortunately the reality is that the number of LFO is small and and they are not bunched together. In situations like these... this type of stuff will happen
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by RoginaJack » 12 Sep 2018, 8:24 pm

Principles of Sustainable Insurance, the avoidance of reputational risk, and the increasing investor and societal concerns over the proliferation and use of firearms today.
Read more at http://www.sportingshooter.com.au/lates ... L2JJ4Tl.99


Could someone please explain the "Principles of Sustainable Insurance,...." as quoted by QBE. :unknown:
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Re: QBE Insurance dumps firearms

Post by Member-Deleted » 12 Sep 2018, 9:01 pm

AHH , Well where does the ssaa go now ? :?
In another mth I won't be insured through ssaa so might have to find my own :unknown:
I find it difficult to believe the ssaa didn't know this was on and what direction are they going to take for members insurance
for the future I would like to know before i decide to stay a member or not :shock:
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