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gun lobby is trying to chip away at gun control laws

Post by Keith » 17 Nov 2018, 7:40 am

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Post by Pennsylvania Yank » 04 Jan 2019, 11:19 pm

There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.
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Post by deye243 » 05 Jan 2019, 12:59 am

And so they should I still demand the right of leathal force for self defence .......
Weather at home or on the street?........ oops Wrong country
I would rather live in a country with the that right than live here with no rights in that area .
But I can't afford it ..........
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Post by wanneroo » 05 Jan 2019, 3:02 am

Notice how SBS writes the article as a smear on anything gun related yet when the gun control lobby is pushing for more laws and rules they write their articles with praise.
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Post by Patriot » 05 Jan 2019, 8:58 am

Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

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Post by Keith » 05 Jan 2019, 10:36 am

Patriot wrote:
Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

“Don’t tread on me”


I can't see the NRA having any influence over the Australian government.
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Post by Patriot » 05 Jan 2019, 11:55 am

Keith wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

“Don’t tread on me”


I can't see the NRA having any influence over the Australian government.
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Yep, you’re right Keith,no influence at all

For me it’s not about that, I believe in most of what the NRA stands for,most of all,individual freedom.Plus the looks I get from lefties when I tell them gives me much amusement.
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Post by No1_49er » 05 Jan 2019, 12:00 pm

wanneroo wrote:Notice how SBS writes the article as a smear on anything gun related yet when the gun control lobby is pushing for more laws and rules they write their articles with praise.

Unfortunately, it was NOT SBS that "wrote" that article.
Stated, at the beginning of said article, is the authors name for which a google search reveals https://theconversation.com/profiles/ge ... nie-152971
Certainly, SBS are remiss in publishing an article without comment and they should be called to account for it :thumbsdown: . You have taken the opportunity to communicate your dissatisfaction to them, haven't you? :unknown:
And so too should the actual author. Likewise, your dissatisfaction to the author! :thumbsdown:
They are both culpable in continuing the "anti" rhetoric against law abiding firearms owners, in whatever jurisdiction they live.
Proud member of "the powerful gun lobby" of Australia :)
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Post by Keith » 05 Jan 2019, 12:10 pm

Patriot wrote:
Keith wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

“Don’t tread on me”


I can't see the NRA having any influence over the Australian government.
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Yep, you’re right Keith,no influence at all

For me it’s not about that, I believe in most of what the NRA stands for,most of all,individual freedom.Plus the looks I get from lefties when I tell them gives me much amusement.


:D Well in that case mate it is well worth the membership fee :clap:
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Post by Member-Deleted » 05 Jan 2019, 12:55 pm

Keith wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

“Don’t tread on me”


I can't see the NRA having any influence over the Australian government.
Keith.


Sadly no, but it would be good if Australian shooters would wake up to the fact that their time as legal owners of firearms in this country is coming to an end, it should be obvious to all that our major parties want to disarm us completely, they have the sense not to try it in one go, but know that many are not smart enough to wake up to the fact that they can acmplish disarmament progressively.
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Post by trekin » 05 Jan 2019, 2:17 pm

Keith wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

“Don’t tread on me”


I can't see the NRA having any influence over the Australian government.
Keith.

No, but if the NRA encourage its member to join our SUQ/A, the injection of funds would make the Govn't sit and take notice, I bet. Just 1/5th of their members joining SU would be onehell of a fighting fund.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 15 Jan 2019, 2:09 pm

trekin wrote:
Keith wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

“Don’t tread on me”


I can't see the NRA having any influence over the Australian government.
Keith.

No, but if the NRA encourage its member to join our SUQ/A, the injection of funds would make the Govn't sit and take notice, I bet. Just 1/5th of their members joining SU would be onehell of a fighting fund.


This ^^^^^ well said. :thumbsup:
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Post by bigrich » 15 Jan 2019, 4:52 pm

good on ya gaz. :lol: australia/austria , i've used that joke once or twice :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 15 Jan 2019, 5:44 pm

bigrich wrote:good on ya gaz. :lol: australia/austria , i've used that joke once or twice :drinks: :thumbsup:


Where do you think I stole it?
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Post by Angel » 22 Jan 2019, 11:39 am

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Keith wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Pennsylvania Yank wrote:There is a lot of anti-NRA propaganda in this article. Although NRA members do not control the nominating process, we do ultimately vote for the board of directors. I know because I get a ballot mailed to me. The NRA is not in the business of selling guns. Americans want gun safety and strong gun laws and the NRA has supported and helped craft many of those laws. Americans do not want massive gun bans despite what you may have been told. The NRA is a Pitt Bull when it comes to defending our gun rights. No one in the media utters a negative word when the ACLU or the NAACP fight against any and all legislative and societal measures they consider threats to civil rights, so should it be with the NRA. The NRA is not controlled by the gun industry. That's pure agitprop.


Yep,the NRA is the oldest civil rights organisation in the world and even though I am an Australian born and and bred, I am a proud international member of the NRA,and would encourage my fellow citizens to join.

“Don’t tread on me”


I can't see the NRA having any influence over the Australian government.
Keith.


Sadly no, but it would be good if Australian shooters would wake up to the fact that their time as legal owners of firearms in this country is coming to an end, it should be obvious to all that our major parties want to disarm us completely, they have the sense not to try it in one go, but know that many are not smart enough to wake up to the fact that they can acmplish disarmament progressively.


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Post by wrenchman » 24 Jan 2019, 12:25 am

up to the 70s the nra was more about hunting it was not till the members voted to be more pro gun did it becoume so hated as many member will tell you if you dont like them you could join and vote to change.
sadly lately they have just been rideing on the coat tails of the local gun rights groups and takeing credit for there work.
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Post by BaronBoy » 12 Feb 2019, 11:29 pm

deye243 wrote:And so they should I still demand the right of leathal force for self defence .......
Weather at home or on the street?........ oops Wrong country
I would rather live in a country with the that right than live here with no rights in that area .
But I can't afford it ..........


You do have the right to use lethal force but only in the circumstance that an intruder is about to use lethal force on you. The right to self-defence is the right to use force proportional to the risk of the force being used against yourself.
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Post by Keith » 13 Feb 2019, 6:01 pm

BaronBoy wrote:
deye243 wrote:And so they should I still demand the right of leathal force for self defence .......
Weather at home or on the street?........ oops Wrong country
I would rather live in a country with the that right than live here with no rights in that area .
But I can't afford it ..........


You do have the right to use lethal force but only in the circumstance that an intruder is about to use lethal force on you. The right to self-defence is the right to use force proportional to the risk of the force being used against yourself.


Not in Australia it isn't.
Possessing any object specifically for the purpose of self-defence, lethal or non-lethal, is a criminal offence in Australia!!! There are many women, raped and/or murdered, who would have been liable to prosecution had they been carrying anything that might have saved them.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/an-assault-on-our-right-to-selfprotection/news-story/f743f8b76f21a586a6efb2396c9b2f8d


Self defence is not a legitimate reason for owning a firearm in Australia. If you already own a firearm & use it to protect yourself or your family in a home invasion, then you can have your guns confiscated & your firearms licence revoked at the very least.

This means that a citizen is forced to go to the kitchen & get into a knife fight in order to protect him/herself or their family. How many 70 year olds do you think would be capable of surviving against a younger, faster & stronger assailant?
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