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Another new party possibly on our side

Post by bladeracer » 12 Dec 2018, 10:33 pm

https://www.peopleschoiceparty.com.au/?fbclid=IwAR2WS3dZ9sLlYp8nmDWBOb2EoLKS6w4ChHv3trvsjDLtVYa0NJUmyQ8pkzo

They have a policy document that doesn't sound terrible.
So I asked Jarrod about his view toward firearm ownership and recreational hunting.
He seems to be supportive.
Might be worth a look.

He is a dedicated conservationist and has worked with the Irwin's, but he doesn't seem rabid anti-gun :-)
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Post by bigfellascott » 13 Dec 2018, 12:14 am

Why wouldn't people support the SFFP? They do have our interests at heart. Other question is where does this other parties preference votes go when they don't get in?
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Post by bladeracer » 13 Dec 2018, 3:22 am

bigfellascott wrote:Why wouldn't people support the SFFP? They do have our interests at heart. Other question is where does this other parties preference votes go when they don't get in?


Both good questions.
SFFP should probably be polling to find out why people don't support them, and what they can do to get that support.
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Post by trekin » 13 Dec 2018, 3:25 am

bigfellascott wrote:Why wouldn't people support the SFFP? They do have our interests at heart. Other question is where does this other parties preference votes go when they don't get in?

1. SFFP do not run a candidate for every seat. If your only choice was this new Party, ALP, LNP who would you vote for??
2. Clearly, there are some who still haven't got the memo, it is the voter who decides where preferences go, not the Partys.
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Post by bigrich » 13 Dec 2018, 4:45 am

trekin wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Why wouldn't people support the SFFP? They do have our interests at heart. Other question is where does this other parties preference votes go when they don't get in?

1. SFFP do not run a candidate for every seat. If your only choice was this new Party, ALP, LNP who would you vote for??
2. Clearly, there are some who still haven't got the memo, it is the voter who decides where preferences go, not the Partys.


If there was no SFFP candidate to vote for, I would vote for another independent before the major parties, and NEVER the green. Last state election, everyone I know, and a few besides, all voted one nation. Rebel gun works even had a push on for them because of labor talking about implementing ammo limits . I can’t believe one nation did so poorly when everyone I talk to says they voted for them. After some of the scandals and rigging coming out about labor and ugly Anna palace-chook coming out, I gotta wonder if they rigged the last state elections. They had a phone poll about renaming a children’s hospital which is gunna cost the taxpayers about 1.6 million to do. Because it was named by qld’s last liberal leader. Turns out the majority of the calls in the vote came from a few government offices, and ugly Anna won’t reveal who’s behind it. On top of that, a contract for making new passenger trains is going overseas instead of being made here. I think ugly Anna is cashing in because this is going to be her last term in office. Bloody politicians
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Post by straightshooter » 13 Dec 2018, 6:41 am

One effective method for neutering a potentially troublesome political grouping is by fragmentation.
It would appear that is how the SFFP may be dealt with in Qld.
Liberal and Laber may appear to be in fierce competition but when it suits them........ and there is no shortage of aspirants wanting to lead their 'own' party.

By the way
bigrich wrote: Anna palace-chook

Her surname, which is Ukrainian in origin, was once pronounced to me by a native Ukrainian speaker and your rendition is a reasonable approximation of the correct pronunciation of her surname.
The fact that it is now rendered in a French sounding pronunciation, resembling neither it's original pronunciation nor the transliterated English of the Cyrillic written version, gives an indication of the chameleon like character of politicians.
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Post by Daddybang » 13 Dec 2018, 7:13 am

straightshooter wrote:One effective method for neutering a potentially troublesome political grouping is by fragmentation.
It would appear that is how the SFFP may be dealt with in Qld.

Unfortunately anything political coming out of se qld is viewed by the rest of the state as toxic until they prove otherwise. The push to "Boot Brisbane" is definitely gaining traction up this way. :drinks:

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bigrich wrote: Anna palace-chook

Her surname, which is Ukrainian in origin, was once pronounced to me by a native Ukrainian speaker and your rendition is a reasonable approximation of the correct pronunciation of her surname.
The fact that it is now rendered in a French sounding pronunciation, resembling neither it's original pronunciation nor the transliterated English of the Cyrillic written version, gives an indication of the chameleon like character of politicians.


The FNQ way to pronounce it is "Anasthetic Palaschmuck" :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by grandadbushy » 13 Dec 2018, 7:20 am

YEP DB agree and that's pronouncing it politely :thumbsup: :drinks: :D
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Post by Daddybang » 13 Dec 2018, 7:34 am

Yep granddad she wouldn't be worth scrambling if she was a egg!! :D :drinks:
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Post by grandadbushy » 13 Dec 2018, 8:04 am

Yeah, Nah i'd scramble her a dog could choke on a hard boiled egg
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 13 Dec 2018, 8:55 am

bigfellascott wrote:Why wouldn't people support the SFFP? They do have our interests at heart. Other question is where does this other parties preference votes go when they don't get in?


I know I'll cop some flack, but my opinion is divided on the SFFP.
While I applaud their views on some things (like firearms policy), their religion based Social Conservatism means they are against many things in which I believe very strongly, abortion rights, voluntary euthanasia, the right of a person to live as the gender they feel suits them best etc.

Now, I'm not gay, or pregnant, or dying of some hideous malady, nor am I contemplating have little William removed so I can be called Ms, so the issues mentioned don't directly effect me, but I am mature enough to accept that there are wider issues that are of more importance than "what I want".
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Post by trekin » 13 Dec 2018, 8:58 am

bigrich wrote:
trekin wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Why wouldn't people support the SFFP? They do have our interests at heart. Other question is where does this other parties preference votes go when they don't get in?

1. SFFP do not run a candidate for every seat. If your only choice was this new Party, ALP, LNP who would you vote for??
2. Clearly, there are some who still haven't got the memo, it is the voter who decides where preferences go, not the Partys.


If there was no SFFP candidate to vote for, I would vote for another independent before the major parties, and NEVER the green. Last state election, everyone I know, and a few besides, all voted one nation. Rebel gun works even had a push on for them because of labor talking about implementing ammo limits . I can’t believe one nation did so poorly when everyone I talk to says they voted for them. After some of the scandals and rigging coming out about labor and ugly Anna palace-chook coming out, I gotta wonder if they rigged the last state elections. They had a phone poll about renaming a children’s hospital which is gunna cost the taxpayers about 1.6 million to do. Because it was named by qld’s last liberal leader. Turns out the majority of the calls in the vote came from a few government offices, and ugly Anna won’t reveal who’s behind it. On top of that, a contract for making new passenger trains is going overseas instead of being made here. I think ugly Anna is cashing in because this is going to be her last term in office. Bloody politicians

Yeah, but question still remains, who does one vote for if your electrate have very limited choice? Personally, in such situations, I abstain by either placing a black line though all names on the ballet, or paying the booths electrol officer my $20 (remembering to get a reciept) and leave.
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Post by bigfellascott » 13 Dec 2018, 10:49 am

Do the parties not do preference deals with each other?
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Post by trekin » 13 Dec 2018, 11:03 am

bigfellascott wrote:Do the parties not do preference deals with each other?

It may appear that way in the media, or listening to/reading anything from the Party's themselves, BUT no, they can not!! The only people that can direct preferrences is the voter on the ballot paper. The Party/candidiate can only suggest how they would like you place YOUR preferrences on the ballet paper, hence the How To Vote Cards they hand out. If you follow their suggestions, it does look like they give their preferrences to another Party if they don't win on first preferrences, but in actual fact the count continues on to the second, or third etc, preferrence that you place your mark next to according to their suggestions.
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Post by bigfellascott » 13 Dec 2018, 3:37 pm

Thanks for that Trekin, all I can say is if you vote Lab or Lib you'd be a moron especially if you think things will get better under either, all they do is Lie and BS everyone so they can get control, they have f*** all ideas left that will make like better for the Australian Public, it's all about more restrictions and more taxes of one sort or another, people need to wake the f*** up and stop thinking its only a choice between labor or Libs - there are better options out there that people need to start looking towards.

Sadly that won't happen and all they will do is keep bitching about how bad things are yet they never seem to get the fact they contributed to that fact because they keep voting Lab or Libs, bunch of retarded f***s that they are!
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 13 Dec 2018, 3:44 pm

Preferences have put the rabid vegan apocalypse back in it's box, it would seem

Greens 'doomed' to repeat failures unless they learn from election rout, ousted MP says
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-12/v ... e/10612276
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Post by bigfellascott » 13 Dec 2018, 3:51 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:Preferences have put the rabid vegan apocalypse back in it's box, it would seem

Greens 'doomed' to repeat failures unless they learn from election rout, ousted MP says
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-12/v ... e/10612276


Couldn't give a f*** about a Greens retard, they are seriously weird people and will destroy our lives and the world if these types ever get full control!! :thumbsdown:
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Post by trekin » 13 Dec 2018, 4:19 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Thanks for that Trekin, all I can say is if you vote Lab or Lib you'd be a moron especially if you think things will get better under either, all they do is Lie and BS everyone so they can get control, they have f*** all ideas left that will make like better for the Australian Public, it's all about more restrictions and more taxes of one sort or another, people need to wake the f*** up and stop thinking its only a choice between labor or Libs - there are better options out there that people need to start looking towards.

Sadly that won't happen and all they will do is keep bitching about how bad things are yet they never seem to get the fact they contributed to that fact because they keep voting Lab or Libs, bunch of retarded f***s that they are!

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