"Someone has to speak on behalf of the deer".

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Post by PaddyT » 18 Dec 2018, 10:10 am

Not sure why any of us are laughing at these lunatics- the Animal Justice Party managed to get a member into Victorias upper house at the last election, all sorts of "animal lovers" will vote for them without thinking about it!
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Post by pomemax » 18 Dec 2018, 11:49 am

Does anyone else wonder why things like this make it in to the news paper /media giving them coverage only make,s it worse in the long run (oxygen bandits they should just go sip another latte)
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Post by bigrich » 18 Dec 2018, 4:28 pm

i can't post a link, but i've just seen a news story on a USA poacher in missouri who has been sentenced to watch bambi once a month :o :wtf: :shock:
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Post by TassieTiger » 18 Dec 2018, 7:28 pm

Haha. BR - you a Joe Rogan fan as well?? He just talked about this in his latest podcast.
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Post by bigrich » 18 Dec 2018, 8:44 pm

dunno who that is tas, saw the story on chanel 9 on the telly this arvo . pretty freakin bizzare :wtf: :thumbsup:
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Post by marksman » 18 Dec 2018, 8:48 pm

bigrich wrote:i can't post a link, but i've just seen a news story on a USA poacher in missouri who has been sentenced to watch bambi once a month :o :wtf: :shock:


you have to love bambi
I've seen it thousands of times :lol:
lots of children :lol: :drinks:
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Post by Bruiser64 » 18 Dec 2018, 9:00 pm

PaddyT wrote:Not sure why any of us are laughing at these lunatics- the Animal Justice Party managed to get a member into Victorias upper house at the last election, all sorts of "animal lovers" will vote for them without thinking about it!


Thanks for this post. I have just had a look at the Animal Justice Party website. In my opinion this is an eco-fascist party. They make no apologies about working towards everyone having a totally plant based diet. They are clear they want to end all animal based agriculture. It is irrelevant that the majority in a democracy doesn’t agree. In a democracy all have the right to involvement in the democratic process: but we all only get one vote. This party are undemocratic in my view and are clear that they wish to impose their views on the rest of us.

I found their “education” policy particularly disturbing. They are seeking to proselytise in schools to convert impressionable children to their vegan “animal rights” dogma. I for one don’t accept in any way that animals have rights. Rights are a human concept. I believe we should not be cruel: as an ethical shooter I believe in making a humane kill and seek to avoid causing suffering. I always find it interesting that “animal rights” believers never talk about an animals obligations or responsibilities. Normally if one has rights one also has both of those. Of course animals don’t, because they can’t. The only good thing about this part is they are at least upfront about how dangerous they are in my opinion.
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Post by duncan61 » 18 Dec 2018, 9:49 pm

100% with you Bruiser these alarmist like to bang on about things going extinct yet never consider the animals that have flourished with human help cats dogs cattle many bird species.The few opportunities I have had to discuss this topic they shut down and have no interest in any other opinion.Even the New Testament declares we are the masters of the seas and skies as well as all the creatures of the land
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Post by PaddyT » 19 Dec 2018, 7:22 am

Well not sure about the Facist tag, they more use the same tactics that the Communists used to take over Eastern Europe in the late 1940's, tell the masses(in this case animal lovers) that they can have everything they want-like a fairytale of animal and human heaven and discredit the opposition through any means possible. Ive never seen anyone from the far left of politics actually believe in the democratic process other than something to be manipulated towards the ultimate goal of complete control for themselves! However the AJP will get votes because unthinking do gooders will not think about the implications of their vote. As an example a couple of years back a dolphin came up into the higher reaches of the Hawkesbury River (near where i live and work)and died (it was sighted for a few days before its death so am guesssing it was unwell, no autopsy was carried out). The death was reported by the local newspaper ANND- I kid you not there was an entire conversation on social media that started with "OMG I didnt know dolphins died!!! " As i said there are a lot of morons in the world.
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Post by Bruiser64 » 19 Dec 2018, 8:10 am

PaddyT wrote:Well not sure about the Facist tag, they more use the same tactics that the Communists used to take over Eastern Europe in the late 1940's, tell the masses(in this case animal lovers) that they can have everything they want-like a fairytale of animal and human heaven and discredit the opposition through any means possible. Ive never seen anyone from the far left of politics actually believe in the democratic process other than something to be manipulated towards the ultimate goal of complete control for themselves! However the AJP will get votes because unthinking do gooders will not think about the implications of their vote. As an example a couple of years back a dolphin came up into the higher reaches of the Hawkesbury River (near where i live and work)and died (it was sighted for a few days before its death so am guesssing it was unwell, no autopsy was carried out). The death was reported by the local newspaper ANND- I kid you not there was an entire conversation on social media that started with "OMG I didnt know dolphins died!!! " As i said there are a lot of morons in the world.


That dolphin story gives a good insight into the magical thinking of these people. They really have no real knowledge about animals at all. The reason I call them fascists is that they are making no pretence that the communities views or needs count. They are seeking to impose their will on the community. Perhaps a better word is autocrat. One of the things they propose is to end castration of animals. I can’t imagine horse riders would like this idea. Managing stallions is very challenging, which is why most male horses are gelded. Most male dogs and cats are neutered for the same reasons, as well as to limit breeding. So just this policy is indicative of magical thinking with no concerns for humans at all.
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Post by duncan61 » 19 Dec 2018, 8:43 am

It is suprising that with daylight saving how many people believe that the day is longer and will affect cows milking.I was at a dairy farm when this all went down and I still milked at 2.30 AM and 2.30 PM for the same results
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Post by PaddyT » 20 Dec 2018, 10:35 am

Yes Bruiser, it is magical thinking, i laughed when i saw that article about the deer poacher in the USA being forced to watch Bambi , maybe AJP members should be forced to watch videos of foxes in hen houses or african Hunting dogs running down antelope or orcas eating seals or dolphins or whatever, drum some commonsense into all of them (if thats possible)
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Post by TassieTiger » 20 Dec 2018, 12:58 pm

BR

Joe Rogan has some great podcasts - he often has Steve Rinella on and the two are good friends it seems...lots of talk about comedy, MMA, hunting, animal management etc
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