wolfthomas wrote:It's mild and I didn't know whether to mention it or not. For transparency I did. For the record I am a filthy leftist.
It's my impression that the "Complete Scumbag Party" is meant to be the LNP. The "Discreet Scumbag" is Labor and the "Nice Party" is the Greens in this cartoon. But maybe I'm reading too much into it.
wolfthomas wrote:I guess I'm damned if I do damned if I don't. My worry was not mentioning any perceived bias would invited criticism I was dropping left wing propaganda.
But I agree. For this comic really just the message should be looked at. Which is you can't throw away your vote. Put minor parties you like before majors and so on.
"Smashing the state" is more a libertarian-ism versus authoritarianism thing, rather than "right" and "left" anyway. Both anarcho-capitalists and anarcho-communists want to get rid of the state. But in the context of this cartoon I assumed it was a subtle jive at the more militant socialist elements in the Greens party (the red in their watermelon so to speak). The juxtaposition of the benign "hugs and a cup of tea" image with the "smash the state" image which conjures a bandanna wearing anarchist with a molotove cocktail in hand.
Gaznazdiak wrote:wolfthomas wrote:I guess I'm damned if I do damned if I don't. My worry was not mentioning any perceived bias would invited criticism I was dropping left wing propaganda.
But I agree. For this comic really just the message should be looked at. Which is you can't throw away your vote. Put minor parties you like before majors and so on.
"Smashing the state" is more a libertarian-ism versus authoritarianism thing, rather than "right" and "left" anyway. Both anarcho-capitalists and anarcho-communists want to get rid of the state. But in the context of this cartoon I assumed it was a subtle jive at the more militant socialist elements in the Greens party (the red in their watermelon so to speak). The juxtaposition of the benign "hugs and a cup of tea" image with the "smash the state" image which conjures a bandanna wearing anarchist with a molotove cocktail in hand.
It's amazing isn't it, so much is dependent on perceptions.
Basic human tribalism is the root cause, I believe.
No matter what we do, if we form a group, the monkey brain rears its head and "them and us" comes into play.
Whether it's politics, religion or a footy club, if you're not with "us" you're automatically against us.
It gets truly ridiculous when some people can't even discuss it rationally, it's good to discuss it with someone who's mature enough not to see a request for information as a personal attack.
rinkydink wrote:SFFP are fudd morons. Vote Liberal Democrats if you want to truly advance gun rights in this country.
Gaznazdiak wrote:I'm in the middle rich, shaking my head at the lunacy on either side.
I've tried to make that point countless times but the socialists insist on branding me as a fascist and the fascists on branding me as a socialist or a sheeple or a stooge or the worn out and tattered old cliche, convenient idiot.
People who identify themselves on one extreme or the other seem incapable or unwilling to accept there is any other stance.
bigrich wrote:rinkydink wrote:SFFP are fudd morons. Vote Liberal Democrats if you want to truly advance gun rights in this country.
what are their goals and aims in regards to gun rights ? i'm quite happy with my FUDD firearms i have ATM . cap and ball pistols are the only cat H weapon that interests me right now....
Ziad wrote:The thing is.... that's your problem.... you wanna be centre... so the left hate you... and the right despises you
ponkychonk wrote:bigrich wrote:rinkydink wrote:SFFP are fudd morons. Vote Liberal Democrats if you want to truly advance gun rights in this country.
what are their goals and aims in regards to gun rights ? i'm quite happy with my FUDD firearms i have ATM . cap and ball pistols are the only cat H weapon that interests me right now....
You know there are a bunch of other firearm owners out there who have different tastes to you, right? Why don't you support the best gun party, even if you are happy with what you personally have? I'm certainly not happy with what I am limited to.
wolfthomas wrote:This comic is very useful. There is a left-wing bias. The message and explanation is correct however.
http://www.chickennation.com/voting/
Daddybang wrote:Yep BR and if anyone needs evidence of just how correct Rich is just look at the fact that cum stain piece of filth palmer is not rotting in the Grey wall hotel and is actually allowed to reinvolve himself in politics. ...what a fkn joke!!!!
Daddybang wrote:Yep rich it doesn't matter what "side" of politics they're on they're just poliscum that'll promise us the earth and tell us they got our interests at heart and then prison f#$k us the moment it means they can get their snouts deeper in the trough by doing so!!
Bring on the asteroid
bigfellascott wrote:Can you explain to me how the preferential system works, I don't have a clue about it, I just vote for the local SFFP fella.
P.S. I hate voting, to me it's just a wank fest and a waste of my bloody time and effort, nothing will change and nothing ever changes regardless.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Daddybang wrote:Yep rich it doesn't matter what "side" of politics they're on they're just poliscum that'll promise us the earth and tell us they got our interests at heart and then prison f#$k us the moment it means they can get their snouts deeper in the trough by doing so!!
Bring on the asteroid
Spot on DB.
The fact that we are the only OECD member that doesn't have transparency around political donations says it all.
We are not allowed, by act of parliament, to know who donated what to whom until after an election has been held.
Then if we find out that it was some communist influence peddler like Huang Xiangmo, stiff sh!t, we have to wait until the crooked cvnts have been in for a term before we get a chance to toss them.
What an absolute clusterfvck of a system.
Patriot wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Daddybang wrote:Yep rich it doesn't matter what "side" of politics they're on they're just poliscum that'll promise us the earth and tell us they got our interests at heart and then prison f#$k us the moment it means they can get their snouts deeper in the trough by doing so!!
Bring on the asteroid
Spot on DB.
The fact that we are the only OECD member that doesn't have transparency around political donations says it all.
We are not allowed, by act of parliament, to know who donated what to whom until after an election has been held.
Then if we find out that it was some communist influence peddler like Huang Xiangmo, stiff sh!t, we have to wait until the crooked cvnts have been in for a term before we get a chance to toss them.
What an absolute clusterfvck of a system.
I don’t think the public has a right to know, period. Why is it anyone else’s business if I donate,say, $50000 to a political party. People have right to privacy others should just mind their own business.
Patriot wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:Daddybang wrote:Yep rich it doesn't matter what "side" of politics they're on they're just poliscum that'll promise us the earth and tell us they got our interests at heart and then prison f#$k us the moment it means they can get their snouts deeper in the trough by doing so!!
Bring on the asteroid
Spot on DB.
The fact that we are the only OECD member that doesn't have transparency around political donations says it all.
We are not allowed, by act of parliament, to know who donated what to whom until after an election has been held.
Then if we find out that it was some communist influence peddler like Huang Xiangmo, stiff sh!t, we have to wait until the crooked cvnts have been in for a term before we get a chance to toss them.
What an absolute clusterfvck of a system.
I don’t think the public has a right to know, period. Why is it anyone else’s business if I donate,say, $50000 to a political party. People have right to privacy others should just mind their own business.