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NZ police explain new gun laws

Post by allthegearandnoidea » 10 Apr 2019, 10:30 pm

Interesting video showing guns now legal/illegal in NZ. Still allowed access to semi auto 22's and shotguns depending on mag size.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111950732/new-zealands-new-gun-law-what-you-need-to-know
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Post by womble » 11 Apr 2019, 3:57 am

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Post by GojiraSteve » 11 Apr 2019, 9:54 am

They still got it a hell of a lot better than us by the looks.

No registry.

.22 semis and semi shotties still generally accessible (minus detachable mag capable shotguns).

Suppressors unrestricted.

Pistol regs unchanged.

No clear word on "sporting" semi auto centrefires. But based on the vernacular they're using (ie: military style etc etc) it seems like they'll probably still be around in some capacity.

I for one still wish I could justify moving there...
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Post by marksman » 11 Apr 2019, 10:25 am

there are many many pissed off kiwi's
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Post by No1_49er » 11 Apr 2019, 11:18 am

GojiraSteve wrote:They still got it a hell of a lot better than us by the looks.

No registry.

.22 semis and semi shotties still generally accessible (minus detachable mag capable shotguns).

Suppressors unrestricted.

Pistol regs unchanged.

No clear word on "sporting" semi auto centrefires. But based on the vernacular they're using (ie: military style etc etc) it seems like they'll probably still be around in some capacity.

I for one still wish I could justify moving there...

That's as it is at the moment.
They have already said that there will be more changes to come later in the year.
Even in this first instance, I think they've been screwed worse than here. Compensation? Make your minds up after the 2nd round.
Check out Arderns early political life. Socialist confiscation, at best.
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Post by wanneroo » 12 Apr 2019, 1:18 am

The pistol shooters and the collectors are next in line for the tyrannical government.
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Post by Baronvonrort » 12 Apr 2019, 8:10 am

It looks like lever actions are gone in NZ
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Post by wanneroo » 12 Apr 2019, 10:04 am

Baronvonrort wrote:It looks like lever actions are gone in NZ


They only have records going back five years so I imagine many lever actions will find a new home in PVC pipe.
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Post by wolfthomas » 12 Apr 2019, 11:27 am

No1_49er wrote:
GojiraSteve wrote:Socialist confiscation, at best.


Capitalist Centre-right government takes guns away from working class people. Focusing power solely in the hands of the increasingly authoritarian crony capitalist state and those millionaires and billionaires rich enough to hire private security...it's must be the dreaded socialists at work.
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Post by RoginaJack » 12 Apr 2019, 1:20 pm

Hmmm, not to sure about the lever action being banned.

The law, which needs Royal Assent, will become law by the end of the week. It will mean there will be a ban on all semi-automatic and military-style weapons, such as those used during the Christchurch terrorist attack that killed 50 and injured dozens.

This is neither of the above and also does not have a detachable magazine.

Bit confusing... :roll:
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Post by GojiraSteve » 12 Apr 2019, 2:30 pm

RoginaJack wrote:Hmmm, not to sure about the lever action being banned.

This is neither of the above and also does not have a detachable magazine.

Bit confusing... :roll:


Yeah lever action centrefires with tube mags over 10 rounds are out too.

But in reality how many of those are out there anyway? not sure about the smaller pistol calibres and obsolete cowboy era rounds. But most centrefire levers hold 6 or less in my experience.

For anyone interested here are the ACTUAL changes (at least as the stand at the moment)

https://www.police.govt.nz/advice/firea ... d-firearms
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Post by wolfthomas » 12 Apr 2019, 3:37 pm

24 inch lever guns usually hold 14 or 15 shots. But most people own the 10 shot 20 inch versions.
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Post by womble » 12 Apr 2019, 4:35 pm

There’s a crapload of exemptions.
I’d say farmers would still be able to keep what they have, just a lot more paperwork.
Actually probably anyone could if they get the right paperwork.
By design it looks like a bucket load of bereaucracy as to deter people who don’t really have the need.
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Post by mickb » 17 Apr 2019, 1:31 pm

what bugs me about these type of law changes is massacres are such a low % homicide statistic. They rave on about Port Arthur but 500 people have been murderred a year every year since then. Changing laws for the lowest form of harm is criminal waste of money. The billions spent on buy back, admin/law changes and all the departments with salaries calculated until infinity could be better spent on targeting big ticket killers like cancer, the meth epidemic, childhood abuse, male suicide, not some form of crime less likely to harm you than lightnining strike. This is like banning skiiing because of avalanches, incidentally another way more likely to kill you than dying in a mass gun murder.

The other problem for the kiwis like Australia, and I was involved at the time, is its not just your own government or anti's you are up against. When the Aus laws got moving what was a real surprise is the massive international pressure, all the 'anti orgs' and we are talling billion dollar groups flew in these armies of professional contact protesters and lobbyists. They had them going street to street door knocking, threatening members of parliament, blackmailing, even pretending to represent members of parliament and doing suburb wide door knocks acting drunk and aggressive to the public! Every dirty trick in the book and I guarantee similar pressure was being applied at all levels. The kiwis will have hard left billionaires all the way to Europe lined up for a crack at them at the mopment. I'm surprised a country with only a few million has resisted to a degree. Good on them for at least doing better than we did.
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Post by marksman » 17 Apr 2019, 10:14 pm

one of the comments from this story

I have the snaky suspicion that any law changes were written long ago and the politicians were just waiting for an event to bring them out.
Its certainly going to make Jacinda popular for a job at the U.N when her term as P.M is over.

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Post by No1_49er » 18 Apr 2019, 12:37 pm

wolfthomas wrote:24 inch lever guns usually hold 14 or 15 shots. But most people own the 10 shot 20 inch versions.

Before claiming how "more than 10 round magazine capacities" will affect some lever action rifles, read this https://www.police.govt.nz/advice/firea ... d-firearms and be certain to read the expandable sections (under the video link).

Irrespective of how many cartridges could be fitted into the original magazine tube, it is permitted/allowable by "Permanent alteration means cutting back of the tubular magazine or permanently blocking the magazine".
Apart from messing with the internals of the magazine tube on a, say, 1893 Marlin 22LR, it can be made "not prohibited" and retained. Alteration may not even be cosmetically visible.

At least an opportunity has been provided that would otherwise lead to confiscation/surrender of, with an as yet unknown compensation.
And, for the moment, they still have their 10/22s.
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