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Post by Bill » 12 May 2019, 11:24 am

Well only a week to go to the Federal Election and LABOR is on track to smack the effing religious right whack jobs out of the park.

Thanks Bernardi, Dutton, Abbott and Morrison you have completely stuffed the conservation party.

Special mention to Barnaby Joyce, you snivelling slimey prick, enjoy the opposition bench.

Sports Bet now has labor at a ridiculous 1.13 and the Coalition at 6.00.............
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Re: Federal Election

Post by tom604 » 12 May 2019, 12:36 pm

you can never tell who will win,,,,,,,Trump will never win ,,,nek minit :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
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Post by Bill » 12 May 2019, 1:04 pm

:lol: mate lets not get into Trump, US is a republic not a democracy

Lets look at the destruction of the religious and hard right, they have completely destroyed any chance of an election result with almost zero policy. Labor on the other hand have put out and costed fair dinkum Policy to bring some fairness back in.

Ive absolutely had a gutful of lazy Baby boomers get gifts from the tax office and ripping off hard working families. Sick of workers getting dudded on pay rises whilst the stock market and company profits have have grown.

Sick of the inaction on local gas prices and the explosion in electricity prices and the Coalltion keeps tells us they will fix it.

Sick of the Liberal party corruption and Bank protection. Time to piss off.
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Re: Federal Election

Post by on_one_wheel » 12 May 2019, 1:53 pm

All I've heared from labor is "if elected, we promise to further add to our previous economic destruction with rubbish like almost free childcare"
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Post by Oldbloke » 12 May 2019, 3:47 pm

Bill wrote::lol: mate lets not get into Trump, US is a republic not a democracy

Lets look at the destruction of the religious and hard right, they have completely destroyed any chance of an election result with almost zero policy. Labor on the other hand have put out and costed fair dinkum Policy to bring some fairness back in.

Ive absolutely had a gutful of lazy Baby boomers get gifts from the tax office and ripping off hard working families. Sick of workers getting dudded on pay rises whilst the stock market and company profits have have grown.

Sick of the inaction on local gas prices and the explosion in electricity prices and the Coalltion keeps tells us they will fix it.

Sick of the Liberal party corruption and Bank protection. Time to piss off.


I agree Bill. But on principle i wont vote for the big bloated idealogical parties. Voted for the SFFP.
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Post by tom604 » 12 May 2019, 6:10 pm

Bill wrote::lol: mate lets not get into Trump, US is a republic not a democracy

Lets look at the destruction of the religious and hard right, they have completely destroyed any chance of an election result with almost zero policy. Labor on the other hand have put out and costed fair dinkum Policy to bring some fairness back in.

Ive absolutely had a gutful of lazy Baby boomers get gifts from the tax office and ripping off hard working families. Sick of workers getting dudded on pay rises whilst the stock market and company profits have have grown.

Sick of the inaction on local gas prices and the explosion in electricity prices and the Coalltion keeps tells us they will fix it.

Sick of the Liberal party corruption and Bank protection. Time to piss off.


two party government,same as here :allegedly:

costed fair dinkum policy ,, your joking ,,please say your joking :wtf:

lazy baby boomers,,,so everyone older than 55?? how are they ripping off hard working families? not dying quickly enough ?? :sarcasm:

sick of the libtards,,,we agree but im sick of labour as well,, time to piss both of them off :clap: :thumbsup:
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Post by Flyer » 12 May 2019, 7:24 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:All I've heared from labor is "if elected, we promise to further add to our previous economic destruction with rubbish like almost free childcare"

It's interesting you say that in light of the fact government debt under the coalition has risen from $175 billion in September 2013 to over $550 billion today.

That's almost $400 billion in new debt under the Libs/Nats - the highest increase in history (by far) - and twice as much as Labor's debt, which included the global financial crisis.

I do agree that free childcare is an idiotic idea. If you can't afford kids, don't have them. Plus - and this is just my opinion - in most cases kids are better off being looked after by at least one parent or grandparent than a bunch of unqualified childcare workers.

Slimy Bill Shorten or the Religious-Right Retards that put us into more debt than we've ever been in - either way we're buggered.
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Post by Stix » 12 May 2019, 8:19 pm

Flyer wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:All I've heared from labor is "if elected, we promise to further add to our previous economic destruction with rubbish like almost free childcare"

It's interesting you say that in light of the fact government debt under the coalition has risen from $175 billion in September 2013 to over $550 billion today.

That's almost $400 billion in new debt under the Libs/Nats - the highest increase in history (by far) - and twice as much as Labor's debt, which included the global financial crisis.

Slimy Bill Shorten or the Religious-Right Retards that put us into more debt than we've ever been in - either way we're buggered.


Wow...no offence...but you sound like most people...& the media...& the climate change scientists...
All of these people take a small snippet in time, do a forensic search that remarkably blocks out all data relevant to any opposing opinions, & a make an analysis that suits their ignorant totalitarian views...

To suggest Libs have racked up the biggest debt ever without putting any figures into persepective, is equally as ignorant as suggesting that all us firrarms owners will walk into a cafe & slaughter 50 people if we are handed a sound moderator.

Nit having a crack specifically at you Flyer...but if you think good ol Shorten going out of his way to exponentially increase our already exorbitantly high cost of living, is going to change the random stastic figure youre quoting...you, & anyone who shares these voews are fooling yourself.

The political system in this country makes a mockery out of all of us...!!!

If we citizens were as smart as we all claim to be, we eould make a stand & not vote...!!...not at all...no one...!!

Imagine that...!!...actually having tge balls to stand up to this rubbish...

:lol: yea right...!!
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Post by marksman » 12 May 2019, 9:18 pm

tom604 wrote:
Bill wrote::lol: mate lets not get into Trump, US is a republic not a democracy

Lets look at the destruction of the religious and hard right, they have completely destroyed any chance of an election result with almost zero policy. Labor on the other hand have put out and costed fair dinkum Policy to bring some fairness back in.

Ive absolutely had a gutful of lazy Baby boomers get gifts from the tax office and ripping off hard working families. Sick of workers getting dudded on pay rises whilst the stock market and company profits have have grown.

Sick of the inaction on local gas prices and the explosion in electricity prices and the Coalltion keeps tells us they will fix it.

Sick of the Liberal party corruption and Bank protection. Time to piss off.


two party government,same as here :allegedly:

costed fair dinkum policy ,, your joking ,,please say your joking :wtf:

lazy baby boomers,,,so everyone older than 55?? how are they ripping off hard working families? not dying quickly enough ?? :sarcasm:

sick of the libtards,,,we agree but im sick of labour as well,, time to piss both of them off :clap: :thumbsup:



+1 :drinks: a very big 1 :thumbsup:

The political system in this country makes a mockery out of all of us...!!!

and another very big +1 Stix :drinks: :thumbsup:

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Post by Flyer » 13 May 2019, 1:33 am

Stix wrote:Wow...no offence...but you sound like most people...& the media...& the climate change scientists...
All of these people take a small snippet in time, do a forensic search that remarkably blocks out all data relevant to any opposing opinions, & a make an analysis that suits their ignorant totalitarian views...

To suggest Libs have racked up the biggest debt ever without putting any figures into persepective, is equally as ignorant as suggesting that all us firrarms owners will walk into a cafe & slaughter 50 people if we are handed a sound moderator.

Nit having a crack specifically at you Flyer...but if you think good ol Shorten going out of his way to exponentially increase our already exorbitantly high cost of living, is going to change the random stastic figure youre quoting...you, & anyone who shares these voews are fooling yourself.

The political system in this country makes a mockery out of all of us...!!!

If we citizens were as smart as we all claim to be, we eould make a stand & not vote...!!...not at all...no one...!!

Imagine that...!!...actually having tge balls to stand up to this rubbish...

:lol: yea right...!!

No offence taken at all.

My point is equally as valid as the person who says Labor will add to its "previous economic destruction".

Indeed, the greatest economic reforms in recent Australian history were effected by the Hawke/Keating Labor government. It was the floating of the dollar, removal of trade tariffs and workplace reforms that set us up to cash in on the Asian industrial revolution. Howard and Costello merely benefitted from those reforms due to favourable terms of trade.

You see, I'm not actually arguing with you, because I agree with everything you say. I don't even vote.

I was merely making a point ;)
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Post by Stix » 13 May 2019, 8:32 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Im not sure if you're watching this election unfold from the top of Mt Everest, & the effects of hypothermia & lack of oxygen are taking hold...but you sound like a Labour polititiin or a channel nine reporter... :unknown:

To suggest what you have (highlighted in bold) leaves me realising there may not be sensible discussion to be had here...
And to be honest, im not interested in discussing 30 year old politics in regard to the coming election as they have little or no relevance.


But ill indulge this once,... sure Medicare was a great thing for this country...but to conveniently leave out Keatings greatest economic reform-that being the "recession we had to have"- out of your statement above...yes you remember, that huge ecenomic black hole we were left with at the end of Hawke & Keatings rein- :unknown: ..
..., not to mention leave out the single biggest economic reform this country has ever had, in the GST, & then to go on suggest you sgree with me--which may suggest ive said &/or think this, is...well im sorry flyer...edit--is not what id call in agreeance. ...
You go on & convince yourself of whatever completely bias & untrue things you want to--but i dont watch commercial tv news & current affairs exactly because of that kind of ridiculous form of suggestive totalitarian bulls**t.... :roll:

I sincerely hope you're not educating the uneducated with this kind of one sided rubbish flyer...

:?: . :roll: :unknown:

Im not trying to be insulting...jyst trying to level out what you've stated.

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Post by straightshooter » 13 May 2019, 8:38 am

Flyer:
That's what happens when instead of increasing income (in the Government's case taxation) you keep blowing money on gifts and trinkets and just borrow ever more to pay the interest on your debt.
Try it some time, see where you end up.

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Post by TassieTiger » 13 May 2019, 9:51 am

Flyer wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:All I've heared from labor is "if elected, we promise to further add to our previous economic destruction with rubbish like almost free childcare"


I do agree that free childcare is an idiotic idea. If you can't afford kids, don't have them. Plus - and this is just my opinion - in most cases kids are better off being looked after by at least one parent or grandparent than a bunch of unqualified childcare workers.

Slimy Bill Shorten or the Religious-Right Retards that put us into more debt than we've ever been in - either way we're buggered.


You know what they say about opinions ?
I'd say my situation is very run of the mill and I know a lot of people to whom this applies;
Wife and I have a young child - 3 years of age.
I work full time and wife works 3 days a week on $25 an hour for 5 hours a day.
So wifey earns $125 per day to go to work, pay petrol, parking, etc - but child care is $109 per day.
If wifey stayed home full time and did not work at all - we would get Centrelink $$$ (not 100% sure how much but would be more than what is left over from wife's net) and we'd not have to pay for child care....hmmmm.....
We choose to have my wife work - its good for her mental health and sometimes she picks up an extra shift and that makes a difference to the quality of our young children's lives. We aren't looking for hand outs - but the current system is set up to not incentivise people to work at all - and we are far, far from alone.

At some point child care costs will exceed the net outcomes of many people going to work - and if this is allowed to happen, then welfare recipients will increase exponentially...and so will taxes.
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Post by Ziad » 13 May 2019, 11:35 am

Wasn't there a thread with the same name that wa
Was closed.. or did they clean it up and reopen it...as I see the conversation going exactly that way again.

The truth is out there.... but I wasn't the whole truth.. and you are conveniently omitting things you don't like. That's not the truth.

To add to it, the biggest debacles from labour is the pink batts scheme, and the NDIS, and the start of the NBN...Liberals finished nbn completely, and yes probably the budget issue.... even the though

If you look closely its sorta strange, since the budget came out till the election in the debt was going up by $5b a month in the three months between the last labor budget and when liberals took over. Secondly you also fail to mention that Howard gave a surplus of $24b to labour. So labou5 actually created not 175 but 200b debt.

And lastly during the phase of Tony everyone remembers that nothing actually seemed to happen they tried a lot of measures to bring the budget but the Senate and cross bench kept putting it down.
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Post by Bill » 13 May 2019, 12:17 pm

Pink Batts was poolyr managedwith little over sight but overall it cost less than a single year of Tax gifts to Retirees with franking credits....so move on and it did help Australia avoid a recession.

NDIS is something that was needed, how it is rolled out or expanded beyond the original scheme....well the liberals have done a very poor job. last 6 years

NBN, Labor was building the equivalent of a highway, Liberals have decide interconnecting goat tracks between highway is a great idea !!! This was all a bout Murdoch and pay TV protection, didnt help because Foxtel is going broke and wont exist in 5 years (Telstra wants out)

When Howard was treasurer in the late 70 early 80s he gave Labor a $40 Billion debt. Yeah $40Billion

Yes Labor added some $170B in debt after Howard was booted at the the end of the first mining boom. The economy Labor inherited was ill equipped for the GFC and subsequent years because of the massive middle class handout Howard started.

Liberals have since doubled Labors debt again despite having 6 years and a strong economy in NSW and VIC.

Tony was a great opposition leader but terrible Prime Minister. Gillard achieved more in her term with a smaller majority and more work to be done with the cross bench even more divide.

The last 6 years have arguably been the worst Govt since WW2.
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Post by Bill » 13 May 2019, 12:20 pm

There may have been a similar thread but some right wing whack jobs deliberately derailed it with clap trap about batteries/solar etc.

So who thinks Scott Morrison socialist Taxpayer pays 15% of first Home owner deposits, this goes against what true conservatives believe and is right out the communist play book !! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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Re: Federal Election

Post by bigrich » 13 May 2019, 12:28 pm

It’s okay fellas, auntie Pauline is going to come riding in on a kingswood Ute, six gun at the ready to blast labor and the greens and save the day . It’s the “lone ranga “ . :lol: Cue “William tell overture” now .... :lol:

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Post by Bill » 13 May 2019, 12:32 pm

straightshooter wrote:Flyer:
That's what happens when instead of increasing income (in the Government's case taxation) you keep blowing money on gifts and trinkets and just borrow ever more to pay the interest on your debt.
Try it some time, see where you end up.

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It appears likely your deepest desire will be granted next Saturday and we all face repeated colonic irrigation for a few years that will somehow not apply to the Nomenklatura.

How long will Australia's third world economy of farm produce and stuff dug out of the ground hold up under the idiocy of both sides of politics?


Mate Im sick of the generational theft that occurred under Howard and now Scot Morrison, baby boomer have got generosity built into the Super system, access easy cash thru Franking credits and massively subsidized Private health insurance which Im sick of paying for.

Repeated Colonic irrigation........., well I hope these Tax shelters,tax loops holes and Tax gifts are turned around and I no longer subsidize some old rich bastard.

And Yes the Liberals have actually Doubled Labors debt despite no GFC and a strong economy
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