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ABC - Time for a change?

Post by doc » 20 May 2019, 3:41 pm

With a change in government (OK - same party, but with a lot of the old thrown out), plus no promises to not touch the ABC this time round, I can't help but wonder if it might be time to re-raise the whole ABC bias issue.

From my perspective self regulation is obviously not working. It's BIAS, has numerous agenda's and is going along with the rest of the social trends to drown the truth out with propaganda. (Still fuming after I saw that clip on gun control a few weeks back).

If the ABC want's to continue to be a political motivator instead of a informer then maybe it's time for it to stand on it's own two feet commercially like the other stations and fund itself so I'm not paying for it's rot.

On the other hand, if not - then maybe it's time to have a clean out of a lot of bias reporters and bring some credibility back to shows such as Q&A.

Additionally I think it's time that the law was enforced and breaches prosecuted. Aka: Australian broadcasting Corporation Act of 1983 which states "to ensure that the gathering and presentation by the Corporation of news and information is accurate and impartial according to the recognized standards of objective journalism;"

Do you think there's a chance? Do you think it's worth writing to the local MP about, or going bigger?

I just found that apparently there was already an e-petition for this previously (EN0562 on aph.gov.au) but the deadline has already passed, so not sure whether it's worth having another stab at?

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Post by cracker » 20 May 2019, 5:42 pm

which way do you consider them to be bias.
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Post by CrackThump » 20 May 2019, 6:18 pm

cracker wrote:which way do you consider them to be bias.


It doesnt matter which way theyre biased. . if Docs assertation is correct (and I agree with him) that the abc IS biased, then they should not be publicly funded. why should public funds be spent to push the opinions, agendas and beliefs of half the taxpaying population.? keep it neutral and objective (omg... you dont mean keep to the ideals of true journalism do you CrackThump.???)
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Post by allthegearandnoidea » 20 May 2019, 7:31 pm

Bias is in the eye of the beholder. If it wasn't for programs like 4 Corners there would be zero serious investigative journalism on tv. Please don't mention Sky after dark - thats just op ed stuff. Can you supply some actual examples of bias? Not just stuff you don't like.
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Post by Strangedog » 20 May 2019, 7:49 pm

It seems bias to the left to me. I could give countless examples.
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Post by allthegearandnoidea » 20 May 2019, 8:08 pm

go on...
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Post by allthegearandnoidea » 20 May 2019, 8:18 pm

busy googling?
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Post by Baronvonrort » 20 May 2019, 9:43 pm

We should sell off ABC and SBS it's a billion dollar a year + albatross around taxpayers necks.
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 May 2019, 10:15 pm

Mmmm, then why arnt we critisizing the vast majority of tabloids that have (since i was a young man) blatently supported the right and knifed the left.
But i guess that would just be free press or free speach.

And then there is Alan Jones the suporter of the workers. :sarcasm: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sheesh the ABC provides the LEAST bias of all of the media.
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Post by Stix » 20 May 2019, 11:23 pm

Click the channel flicker up a few numbers & try the no bull full of integrity true story tellers on Nine... :lol:
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 20 May 2019, 11:30 pm

Hey I agre I think they need to have rita panache, Steve price, Andrew bolt and peta credlin on ABC



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Post by MJW380 » 20 May 2019, 11:48 pm

Yeah, the ABC isn’t biased at all... :shock:
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Post by Jon79 » 21 May 2019, 12:28 am

ABC should just be shut down or sold off its nothing but a haven for left wing nut jobs
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Post by bigrich » 21 May 2019, 4:58 am

I think there’s no accountability at all in the media. They can say whatever they want at times, leaving out objective views and facts to push their own personal agenda. One nation gets setup with that nra scandal and gets grilled. Comrade bill and Penny Wong are on Chinese social media under assumed identities and gets political donations from a China state owned business and it’s a brief story with no grilling like Hanson got . We had a scandal in Brisbane where a public opinion poll for renaming a children’s hospital at much cost to the public was rigged with the bulk of the yes votes traced back to the premier palace-chooks own office . The reason for the name change was because the previous liberal premier had named it .A Chanel nine reporter broke the story and the premier wouldn’t reveal which of her staff members was behind it . Suddenly, it all went quiet and the story died. So much for transparency and accountability from comrade premier and the media
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Post by trekin » 21 May 2019, 5:44 am

bigrich wrote:I think there’s no accountability at all in the media. They can say whatever they want at times, leaving out objective views and facts to push their own personal agenda. One nation gets setup with that nra scandal and gets grilled. Comrade bill and Penny Wong are on Chinese social media under assumed identities and gets political donations from a China state owned business and it’s a brief story with no grilling like Hanson got . We had a scandal in Brisbane where a public opinion poll for renaming a children’s hospital at much cost to the public was rigged with the bulk of the yes votes traced back to the premier palace-chooks own office . The reason for the name change was because the previous liberal premier had named it .A Chanel nine reporter broke the story and the premier wouldn’t reveal which of her staff members was behind it . Suddenly, it all went quiet and the story died. So much for transparency and accountability from comrade premier and the media



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“The truth is that in traditional terms, we’re a trade. We’re pretty much self-regulated. If we stuff up, we publish a notice or an apology, maybe pay a fine if it’s serious, and we move on. We lose our jobs not because we lose our licence to practice but because our jobs either disappear or our reputations are damaged enough to mean our market value has crashed. If we’re unethical but valuable, there’s nothing to stop us, really.”
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Post by straightshooter » 21 May 2019, 7:14 am

ABC bias?
Ridiculous
It's sole purpose is to instruct the chattering classes on what views are acceptable to express and what is permissible to think.
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Post by bigrich » 21 May 2019, 7:37 am

trekin wrote:
bigrich wrote:I think there’s no accountability at all in the media. They can say whatever they want at times, leaving out objective views and facts to push their own personal agenda. One nation gets setup with that nra scandal and gets grilled. Comrade bill and Penny Wong are on Chinese social media under assumed identities and gets political donations from a China state owned business and it’s a brief story with no grilling like Hanson got . We had a scandal in Brisbane where a public opinion poll for renaming a children’s hospital at much cost to the public was rigged with the bulk of the yes votes traced back to the premier palace-chooks own office . The reason for the name change was because the previous liberal premier had named it .A Chanel nine reporter broke the story and the premier wouldn’t reveal which of her staff members was behind it . Suddenly, it all went quiet and the story died. So much for transparency and accountability from comrade premier and the media



“Although we think of ourselves as professionals, journalism isn’t really a profession in the traditional sense. It’s not like medicine or the law. We have an ethical code of sorts, but we’re not bound to it by some solemn oath. There are no induction ceremonies in which people wear ridiculous gowns or hats. There’s no official body that can strike us off the roll for malpractice. And no one is suggesting there should be.

“The truth is that in traditional terms, we’re a trade. We’re pretty much self-regulated. If we stuff up, we publish a notice or an apology, maybe pay a fine if it’s serious, and we move on. We lose our jobs not because we lose our licence to practice but because our jobs either disappear or our reputations are damaged enough to mean our market value has crashed. If we’re unethical but valuable, there’s nothing to stop us, really.”
Waleed Aly, Andrew Olle Media Lecture, October 15, 2016.


well , i'm shocked :shock: i never expected such unbiased honesty from waleed aly. that's a fair assessment of things. i think there should be a standard to which media should be held too instead of the free for all with no accountability we have now . i wonder if i can get the media to run a story on this :lol: it's not just the ABC, nor solely the left or the right . it's the media as a whole :unknown:

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Post by trekin » 21 May 2019, 7:45 am

bigrich wrote:
trekin wrote:
bigrich wrote:I think there’s no accountability at all in the media. They can say whatever they want at times, leaving out objective views and facts to push their own personal agenda. One nation gets setup with that nra scandal and gets grilled. Comrade bill and Penny Wong are on Chinese social media under assumed identities and gets political donations from a China state owned business and it’s a brief story with no grilling like Hanson got . We had a scandal in Brisbane where a public opinion poll for renaming a children’s hospital at much cost to the public was rigged with the bulk of the yes votes traced back to the premier palace-chooks own office . The reason for the name change was because the previous liberal premier had named it .A Chanel nine reporter broke the story and the premier wouldn’t reveal which of her staff members was behind it . Suddenly, it all went quiet and the story died. So much for transparency and accountability from comrade premier and the media



“Although we think of ourselves as professionals, journalism isn’t really a profession in the traditional sense. It’s not like medicine or the law. We have an ethical code of sorts, but we’re not bound to it by some solemn oath. There are no induction ceremonies in which people wear ridiculous gowns or hats. There’s no official body that can strike us off the roll for malpractice. And no one is suggesting there should be.

“The truth is that in traditional terms, we’re a trade. We’re pretty much self-regulated. If we stuff up, we publish a notice or an apology, maybe pay a fine if it’s serious, and we move on. We lose our jobs not because we lose our licence to practice but because our jobs either disappear or our reputations are damaged enough to mean our market value has crashed. If we’re unethical but valuable, there’s nothing to stop us, really.”
Waleed Aly, Andrew Olle Media Lecture, October 15, 2016.


well , i'm shocked :shock: i never expected such unbiased honesty from waleed aly. that's a fair assessment of things. i think there should be a standard to which media should be held too instead of the free for all with no accountability we have now . i wonder if i can get the media to run a story on this :lol: it's not just the ABC, nor solely the left or the right . it's the media as a whole :unknown:

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Post by Homer » 21 May 2019, 8:37 am

G'Day Fella's,

I totally agree with you Doc.
The abc (thats an acronym for Another Biased Comentary), is so blatant with their reporting, I have problem listening to and watching it.
Every socialist agenda that there is out there floating about, and the abc is there, pushing it to the max!
Nobody would miss it's one sided reporting, so give it the chop, I say.

D'oh!
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Post by Bill » 21 May 2019, 9:15 am

Ziad wrote:Hey I agre I think they need to have rita panache, Steve price, Andrew bolt and peta credlin on ABC



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All those would be earning double the money elsewhere so no it aint gunna happen. Plus the ABC has editorial standards who none of the names youve mentioned would meet, well maybe Steve might met them, the others no way. ;)
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Post by Bill » 21 May 2019, 9:16 am

Homer wrote:G'Day Fella's,

I totally agree with you Doc.
The abc (thats an acronym for Another Biased Comentary), is so blatant with their reporting, I have problem listening to and watching it.
Every socialist agenda that there is out there floating about, and the abc is there, pushing it to the max!
Nobody would miss it's one sided reporting, so give it the chop, I say.

D'oh!
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plenty of Folk in the bush are big supporters of the ABC for their news, you need to get out more mate
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Post by bigrich » 21 May 2019, 9:33 am

Bill wrote:
Homer wrote:G'Day Fella's,

I totally agree with you Doc.
The abc (thats an acronym for Another Biased Comentary), is so blatant with their reporting, I have problem listening to and watching it.
Every socialist agenda that there is out there floating about, and the abc is there, pushing it to the max!
Nobody would miss it's one sided reporting, so give it the chop, I say.

D'oh!
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plenty of Folk in the bush are big supporters of the ABC for their news, you need to get out more mate


that's a scary thought that people in regional areas are being brainwashed by biased ABC . i think the abc needs to be reined in and have new standards set that are impartial and report all the facts. the ABC should be setting a standard . i won't watch a lot of abc shows. their in the same bracket as ten's "the project" . which is one of the most blatantly leftist agenda shows on air . left or right, the media needs a more professional approach and standard and accountability

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Post by Member-Deleted » 21 May 2019, 11:26 am

Just look at how the presenters bagged Clive Palmer on election night even though Clive is a bit on the nose he should enjoy the right to be treated as the other parties were I don't know why people are still commenting on the ABC we all know all media outlets are bias in some way shape or form so take it with a grain of salt if it offends you switch it off I do and I sleep well at night
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Post by wrenchman » 21 May 2019, 11:39 am

you guys have the talking heads from the news here all screwed up it gave them flash backs of trump.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 21 May 2019, 11:58 am

G'day wrenchman hey mate if you don't want Trump send him over here we could do with an outside opinion
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Post by wrenchman » 21 May 2019, 12:35 pm

i would like him to stay for 4 more years
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Post by pomemax » 21 May 2019, 1:24 pm

wrenchman wrote:i would like him to stay for 4 more years
He probably will all he needs is the electoral college and that doable again
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Post by Archie » 21 May 2019, 6:51 pm

bigrich wrote:
Bill wrote:
Homer wrote:G'Day Fella's,

I totally agree with you Doc.
The abc (thats an acronym for Another Biased Comentary), is so blatant with their reporting, I have problem listening to and watching it.
Every socialist agenda that there is out there floating about, and the abc is there, pushing it to the max!
Nobody would miss it's one sided reporting, so give it the chop, I say.

D'oh!
Homer


plenty of Folk in the bush are big supporters of the ABC for their news, you need to get out more mate


that's a scary thought that people in regional areas are being brainwashed by biased ABC . i think the abc needs to be reined in and have new standards set that are impartial and report all the facts. the ABC should be setting a standard . i won't watch a lot of abc shows. their in the same bracket as ten's "the project" . which is one of the most blatantly leftist agenda shows on air . left or right, the media needs a more professional approach and standard and accountability

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All that brainwashing in regional areas doesn't seem to have any impact on how they vote.
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Post by bigrich » 21 May 2019, 7:07 pm

Archie wrote:
bigrich wrote:
Bill wrote:
Homer wrote:G'Day Fella's,

I totally agree with you Doc.
The abc (thats an acronym for Another Biased Comentary), is so blatant with their reporting, I have problem listening to and watching it.
Every socialist agenda that there is out there floating about, and the abc is there, pushing it to the max!
Nobody would miss it's one sided reporting, so give it the chop, I say.

D'oh!
Homer


plenty of Folk in the bush are big supporters of the ABC for their news, you need to get out more mate


that's a scary thought that people in regional areas are being brainwashed by biased ABC . i think the abc needs to be reined in and have new standards set that are impartial and report all the facts. the ABC should be setting a standard . i won't watch a lot of abc shows. their in the same bracket as ten's "the project" . which is one of the most blatantly leftist agenda shows on air . left or right, the media needs a more professional approach and standard and accountability

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All that brainwashing in regional areas doesn't seem to have any impact on how they vote.


i think country folk in general are clued up to politicians and media BS. a few i've met were wary of me at first due to ignorant "do-gooders" from the city areas they've met in the past as well. one old bloke i got talking to reckons he would welcome vegan protesters onto his property. because of their vegan diet they would be good for the soil and would compost down real quick ;)

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