Cashless Society - Our Future

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Re: Cashless Society - Our Future

Post by Bill » 01 Dec 2019, 10:56 am

Ziad $10k is nuthing too alot of retired fella's who like buying old cars and machinary, my newly retired father is 1 of those. He is forced to draw down his Super and as he is a frugal ex farmer who hates banks, he is stock piling cash to buying vintage bulldozer and tractora, well that's his hobby, nuthin to do with he tax office or the Govt so they can all get stuffed.

Taking away a freedom to force all payments thru a fee heavy banking system is nuts.

And I totally agree with the pay wave don't keep tabs on what you have spent scenario, I ve recently gone back to using a fixed a mount of cash recently and it certainly made my bank balance substantially healthier, its also pissed a few people off at the checkout :lol:
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Re: Cashless Society - Our Future

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 01 Dec 2019, 11:42 am

As a merchant with paywave, the banks off load most of the responsibility (fraud and misuse) to the merchant... thus I only allow for pin number no tap.
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Re: Cashless Society - Our Future

Post by gazza » 01 Dec 2019, 8:34 pm

Will we have to pay the bank to hold our funds in a cashless society with negative rates?
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 02 Dec 2019, 5:37 am

No they pay you.

Banks are a business everyone pays, unless you have a mortgage all banks have a monthly account keeping fee, or a yearly fee
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Post by straightshooter » 02 Dec 2019, 5:57 am

gazza wrote:Will we have to pay the bank to hold our funds in a cashless society with negative rates?

Please start thinking.
You always have paid in one way or another, it's just that popular blindness to that fact that prevents the majority of people realizing just how that is the case.
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Post by straightshooter » 02 Dec 2019, 6:29 am

Bill wrote:

I suppose this is a source of high excitement for laber spruikers but for the general public .... yawn.
On the other hand I suppose these bills would be perfectly acceptable if they were sponsored by Mr. Albasleazy.[/quote]

So you support the board of Westpac Straighshooter ??

and clearly you missed the bit where the 95% of the Victorian Liberal Council overwhelmingly reject Scomo/Frydemburgers Cash Ban Bill ! are they psuedo Labor supporters too ?

Why do you think forcing rural folk to drive greater distances just to pay for stuff with their own after tax money at a Bank ? Tell us all what part of this Policy you support.....

I'm a conservative voter but this bulls**t about banning cash under the guise of reducing the black economy is a load of bollocks and something you'd expect in a Communist regime.

With a stroke of a pen the Coalition could sign off on anti money laundering laws that cover the professional enablers in the Accounting/lawyer and Real estate sectors. Current estimate has that $36 Billion is launder mostly thru these sectors.[/quote]

I suppose ignorance, which is at times wilfully self imposed, is bliss.
So much so that a well programmed 'progressive' (?) couldn't have responded any better.
How dare I be contemptuous of this weeks media talking points.
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They just, quite relentlessly, keep selling them to us mug punters.
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Post by flutch » 02 Dec 2019, 9:57 am

this has been tried many times but the same result each time. cash wins. there really isn't a replacement for cash, so many times the inability to use cash results in cessation of trade. all too often technical/infrastructure/computer failings defeat the cashless idea. it doesn't and cant work.
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Post by gazza » 02 Dec 2019, 8:46 pm

There's plenty of events that are cashless. Some don't even have paywave, phones only. Be a thirsty concert if ya phone dies.
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Post by flutch » 05 Dec 2019, 4:26 pm

the cashless card in SA and WA used for low socioeconomic and indigenous people has resulted in them all re-locating to places that dont use that system, people dont want cashless, some form of barter would always inevitably take its place.
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 05 Dec 2019, 9:49 pm

Lol the reason they don't like cashless is cuz they cannot get their smokes and their drugs on the card.

Dude i am surprised out tok you 2 days to come up with a reply. Go standard in a bank for 10 minutes, or a supermarket or a food joint, or Bunnings... anywhere.

Practically no one is posting via cash

And back to my previous post, this idea is dead for the time being.... how about you stop bringing out your tin foil hats.... Also how many times do you pay for your tin foil in Coles with cash?
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Post by bigfellascott » 05 Dec 2019, 10:00 pm

flutch wrote:this has been tried many times but the same result each time. cash wins. there really isn't a replacement for cash, so many times the inability to use cash results in cessation of trade. all too often technical/infrastructure/computer failings defeat the cashless idea. it doesn't and cant work.


Yep the infrastructure just isn't up to a cashless system at this stage, we've had many instances around town where you go to use your card and can't cos "The System is Down" and the only way to pay for it is with cash or it's no sale. :unknown:
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Post by Member-Deleted » 05 Dec 2019, 11:33 pm

Yep BFS and the further out from the cities the less you see the card ie pubs let you get cash out but you pay for every drink with cash it's stupid to go one on one with drink and card as you said the infrastructure is not there yet the day we loose cash will be the day we are totally controllable more so than now cash is about the last freedom we have left that benefits us
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Post by flutch » 05 Dec 2019, 11:36 pm

yeah cashless is a tyrannical move, gotta say, its forcing everyone to be 100% monitored all the time.
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Re: Cashless Society - Our Future

Post by bigfellascott » 06 Dec 2019, 10:37 am

Yep BFS and the further out from the cities the less you see the card ie pubs let you get cash out but you pay for every drink with cash it's stupid to go one on one with drink and card as you said the infrastructure is not there yet the day we loose cash will be the day we are totally controllable more so than now cash is about the last freedom we have left that benefits us


Yep without cash you are easy to control, just have a look at what they do to crims, they seize control of their bank accounts and shut them out, if they can do it to them then they can easily do it to ordinary people.

Then the next thing you know is you can't buy the things you may enjoy like cigarettes, alcohol etc cos they are bad for you they won't be able to be purchased at all electronically.

We might end up being another Korea if we aren't careful! :wtf:
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Re: Cashless Society - Our Future

Post by flutch » 08 Dec 2019, 9:35 pm

all comes back to busy bodies wanting to police others all the time, no different to the climate brigade, no different to the socialists... all just nobodies with nothing better to do and no life and a pathetic view and and an ego.
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Re: Cashless Society - Our Future

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 12 Dec 2019, 5:31 pm

And just like that yesterday even the RBA governor came out sailing he can never see Australia going completely cashless. Esp in rural/ remote areas and of course older people like the ones here will not change
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