QLD petition - Stop the regulation of Gel Blaster Toys

[Farmerpete]

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/apps/d ... id=Pep3293
If you live in qld Please sign before we lose gel blasters
also share the $hit out of it if you have social media even if you dont live in qld

[Kelsey Cooter]

Cheers for sharing, just signed

[StraightWhiteMale]

I still can't believe air guns are regulated cat A. I was 7 years old in 1996 and I still remember kids running around the park having fun because an air gun is just a TOY. Let alone dad telling me in his day they could buy rifles at Kmart and just walk down the street with them.

Anything fun should be illegal.......

[bladeracer]

I still can't believe air guns are regulated cat A. I was 7 years old in 1996 and I still remember kids running around the park having fun because an air gun is just a TOY. Let alone dad telling me in his day they could buy rifles at Kmart and just walk down the street with them.

Anything fun should be illegal.......

Air rifles required a firearm licence in 1980 in WA when I got mine.

[TassieTiger]

A mates air rifle - pressure charged - will smash bricks to smitherines...it’s not a toy.

[flutch]

Back on topic, bout time everyone got stuck into Airsoft and the likes being legalised as the toys that they are.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Air rifles required a firearm licence in 1980 in WA when I got mine.

I don't know what the law was in QLD but I can remember heaps of kids had them in the early 1990s.

[StraightWhiteMale]

A mates air rifle - pressure charged - will smash bricks to smitherines...it’s not a toy.

They are like the same as gel blasters but instead of a gel ball it is a bit of pellet. Anything can be “misused” I guess.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Here is a petition to make airsoft legal.

https://www.change.org/p/mark-mcgowan-h ... -australia

[wanneroo]

I have multiple airsoft guns I bought years ago for work in training exercises. They shoot either a plastic or as I prefer a compressed chalk 6mm ball at about 350 feet per second.

It's ridiculous they are banned in Australia.

[Bill]

Not interested, sure looks fun but considering the damage to kids eyes already in QLD they present a clear and present danger.

Also with more trigger happy cops and iced up twits roaming the street do we need a spate of Cops shoots Gel blaster idiot stories.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Not interested, sure looks fun but considering the damage to kids eyes already in QLD they present a clear and present danger.

Also with more trigger happy cops and iced up twits roaming the street do we need a spate of Cops shoots Gel blaster idiot stories.

Yes thats the mentality mate. Ban everything that people can miss use. Hope they ban all cat A and cat B firearms whilst they are at it.

[flutch]

Not interested, sure looks fun but considering the damage to kids eyes already in QLD they present a clear and present danger.

Also with more trigger happy cops and iced up twits roaming the street do we need a spate of Cops shoots Gel blaster idiot stories.

What was that? I couldn't hear you over the obtuse FUDDery

[Bill]

not at all SWM, I just dont see what they will add to society whilst raising irrational fears further in society towards regular gun owners.

With the Firearms laws in Oz already against legals weapons that look like assault rifle/AK47/SKS etc these arent going to help our cause.

[flutch]

not at all SWM, I just dont see what they will add to society whilst raising irrational fears further in society towards regular gun owners.

With the Firearms laws in Oz already against legals weapons that look like assault rifle/AK47/SKS etc these arent going to help our cause.

Yet I can Goto Kmart and buy a plastic AK, a plastic AR-15, a plastic 1911, a plastic Bazooka, a plastic SCAR, a plastic UZI, yet you think me having a plastic H&K 416 Airsoft gun is any different?

Mate sorry but you're ignorant and I'm going to boil it down to "you don't want or need one, so you don't think anyone else does either" AKA - FUDD

[flutch]

If anything having a thriving Airsoft community in Australia, as they are elsewhere.... Even in draconian England, would only serve to further our cause as it would show clearly that just because something looks dangerous to ignorant inner city scaredlings, has no bearing on its actual threat level and that they are the ones who are irrationally scared of simple toys. Society needs to change not guns, and while people capitulate to their irrational and misinformed and childish whims like Bill is you only strengthen their hollow arguments and emotional garbage.

FUDDery is the sole cause of such laws inhibiting us... If we continue to have these attitudes among us kiss everything goodbye, this attitude that because "I don't want it we don't need it" needs to die... It's selfish and lowly.

[StraightWhiteMale]

not at all SWM, I just dont see what they will add to society whilst raising irrational fears further in society towards regular gun owners.

With the Firearms laws in Oz already against legals weapons that look like assault rifle/AK47/SKS etc these arent going to help our cause.

Or maybe. MAYBE!!!!! They might get a lot of people to play with them and realise this is a fun pastime lets maybe move onto real firearms now. And more lawful people getting into firearms is a good thing.

[flutch]

Or maybe. MAYBE!!!!! They might get a lot of people to play with them and realise this is a fun pastime lets maybe move onto real firearms now. And more lawful people getting into firearms is a good thing.

+100000

[flutch]

Rather apt that bill has his avatar on here as a wolf in sheep's clothing, perhaps that is telling of his real nature on the forum? After all not the first time I've seen him throw fellow enthusiasts under the bus.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Rather apt that bill has his avatar on here as a wolf in sheep's clothing, perhaps that is telling of his real nature on the forum? After all not the first time I've seen him throw fellow enthusiasts under the bus.

He might be an operative from the greens or gun control Australia. I respect every persons beliefs and their right to express them but I do shake my head sometimes how crazy they might be. I hate pink shirts but if a bloke wants to wear a pink shirt good on him. How he spends his money is none of my business and mine his.

The more public awareness we get out about lawful firearm use the better. Threatening people with a toy gun is just as illegal as a using a real firearm. So laws do exist for misuse already. Anyone who knows anything about firearms can tell these are toys just by looking at them. Peoples ignorance on firearm knowledge does not negate ones right to a lawful activity.

[flutch]

Bill mate, I'm not the Fudd here, and clearly you chose the avatar, in any case I stand firm on my attitude towards people who have opinions like you expressed, the entire reason the anti community has any power is capitulation and you just demonstrated a perfect example of it.

[Bill]

Capitulation LOL we don't have GB in NSW and the last thing we need is a flood of permanent eye injuries. Unintended consequences of poor parenting mate.

[flutch]

Capitulation LOL we don't have GB in NSW and the last thing we need is a flood of permanent eye injuries. Unintended consequences of poor parenting mate.

Right so you admit the gel blaster and Airsoft guns aren't to blame then?

Honestly you remind me of my mates mum, scared of everything, would fit in wonderfully at a socialist convention asking the world to legislate against every s**ty parent and life choice,

Get a grip mate, if you're too thick to understand that objects flying through the air best be kept from eyeballs there's no point to your existence, by that logic using a dinner fork is a wreckless and heedless activity.

If parents are so lobotomized by the nanny state that they can't read warning labels or buy some $5 goggles off eBay that's hardly everyone else's problem. For the rest of the world where Airsoft is legal issues like you cite aren't an issue, because people aren't left walking about their lives as blatantly ignorant of common sense.. s**t I mean if Kiwis can handle Airsoft that says something (taking the piss obviously). My friends and I all had BB guns from the markets when we were kids (Airsoft pistols) and we had 0 dramas.

I think you're trying to validate your Fudd attitude but all I'm seeing is more reasons to call you out for it

[TassieTiger]

Quite(Or maybe. MAYBE!!!!! They might get a lot of people to play with them and realise this is a fun pastime lets maybe move onto real firearms now. And more lawful people getting into firearms is a good thing.

Or MAYBE they will be misused, take some eyes out, put more and more scrutiny on low powered cat A’s that then get removed or reclassified. Maybe is a big word. Thinking paintball markers...
Fuk me it hurts to side with Bill but, I think he has a point...

These would have been awesome back in the day, but in this generation, an Evermore and increasingly litigious society ? With dick wads on Social media? Trigger happy cops who are scared as it is?

I don’t see the benefits either - I used to love fireworks and shooting : shot with cotton buds, with the ole daisy but it was silly and an eye out is forever - mandatory glasses but...today? Not sure.
Some of the air soft guns I’ve seen wouldn’t pass the replica laws regardless, and some academy cop could easily glance and fire - fearing got their safety...yeah, not 100% sure on this one.

[StraightWhiteMale]

So your kid is working his shift at subway and some knob prick - who otherwise, wouldn’t have access - walks in to rob the joint and your kid loses an eye in the process, you think that’s the kids or parents fault ?

One could rob a subway and take someones eye out with nearly anything. A toy should not be banned because someone might do something. If my hypothetical kid was allowed concealed carry and we had self defence laws he could defend himself and not be left defenceless.

The solution is always more liberty and less government overreach.

[TassieTiger]

I guess they can tickle a bit...

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[StraightWhiteMale]

I guess they can tickle a bit...

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We use to shoot each other with slugs. Kids do silly things. Its all just a bit of fun.

[TassieTiger]

With the same Line of thought - why not have air rifles available outside of licensing ? If these things can really shoot 350-400fps, there half way there anyway...where is the line I guess ? Are they toys if they can imbed their projectiles under the skin ? How do they actually function - can they be improved upon like paint ball markers to pass that “line”? By the way, I was shot in the side of the mouth once with a paint ball (2 years ago now) - the guy who shot me accidentally, said my knuckle hurt more than a ball, but I don’t know, both hurt me.

[StraightWhiteMale]

With the same Line of thought - why not have air rifles available outside of licensing ? If these things can really shoot 350-400fps, there half way there anyway...where is the line I guess ? Are they toys if they can imbed their projectiles under the skin ? How do they actually function - can they be improved upon like paint ball markers to pass that “line”? By the way, I was shot in the side of the mouth once with a paint ball (2 years ago now) - the guy who shot me accidentally, said my knuckle hurt more than a ball, but I don’t know, both hurt me.

If it was up to me I would draw the line with laws like Texas. Where people have freedoms do do what they wish so long as they don't harm others. That is a freedom and personal liberty. People need to be and act responsible. Responsible use of firearms should be something they teach kids at school. Teach kids about firearm safety and health and even about how the finance system works. People seem to be laking basic life skills. They can use computers and advanced programs but cant cut down a tree and skin a fish?

[TassieTiger]

We would all love the laws to be applicable to how we envision society “should” work, just like the old days for me, but its delusional to think it’s a possibility - the litigious society we now live in, simply prevents it by removing responsibility snd common sense...spending time in several primary and local high schools, I’m just amazed...as to lack of common sense...I’m for let Darwin sort em out / helmets off bikes, seat belts for choice, etc - but this generation...fark me - they’d be all gone in 10 years if you applied 1960’s 70’s living arrangements...