Local gun shop closures with COVID shutdown

[Sergeant Hartman]

s**t wrenchman... hope she is pulls through. My thoughts to anyone sick with or without cronavirus.

[TheFirearmEnthusiast]

I hope you're okay wrenchman

[trekin]

The web site is clearly showing a 15% death rate
It's extremely clear

You're right trekin
You may have a low IQ just like Ziad

Yep, clearly states 15% of the global cases that have had an outcome so far.

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[TheFirearmEnthusiast]

Yes

And

Death rates are calculated based on "cases that have had an outcome" already
(Thus the current 15% death rate as of now)

That's perfectly normal and logical

We can't estimate the death rates based on "active cases" as we're not 100% sure on what's gonna happen with the active cases yet
(As they haven't had a definitive outcome yet)

You're confirming what I'm saying Trekin

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hmm just above that it says 96% are mild cases... so you doing that 11% of them will die... assuming that all of the critical cases die?

Seriously need to look at the whole picture

[trekin]

Yes

And

Death rates are calculated based on "cases that have had an outcome" already
(Thus the current 15% death rate as of now)

That's perfectly normal and logical

We can't estimate the death rates based on "active cases" as we're not 100% sure on what's gonna happen with the active cases yet
(As they haven't had a definitive outcome yet)

You're confirming what I'm saying Trekin

'That's perfectly normal and logical' yep, perfectly normal for those with statistical bias.

[TheFirearmEnthusiast]

Trekin;
It's not statistical bias
No offence man but
That's a very stupid thing what you've just said
OBVIOUSLY you can't estimate a death rate on someone, if that person hasn't died or lived yet haha
You've gotta wait for the final outcome
Completely logical


Ziad;
The death rate is 15%
Get your head out of your a55

[trekin]

Trekin;
It's not statistical bias
No offence man but
That's a very stupid thing what you've just said
OBVIOUSLY you can't estimate a death rate on someone, if that person hasn't died or lived yet haha
You've gotta wait for the final outcome
Completely logical


Ziad;
The death rate is 15%
Get your head out of your a55

Well that's me out then.

[TheFirearmEnthusiast]

See you Trekin
I don't know how you can count a death when someone hasn't died yet
Obviously you've gotta wait for the final outcome
Obviously
Lol
See you buddy

[trekin]

See you Trekin
I don't know how you can count a death when someone hasn't died yet
Obviously you've gotta wait for the final outcome
Obviously
Lol
See you buddy

And yet you are quite happy to do just that with your earlier statement "2020 corona virus:
15% death rate = Potentially 300x million deaths". Not only extending the statistical rate to all those all ready infected, but to global population, a goodly percentage of which may not even get infected.

[rc42]

Whatever the truth, we'll never know for sure.
China would never admit that they engineered it, countries like USA will never accuse them even if they had evidence as the public backlash would impact their own bio weapons research but other countries would carry on.

It could have been a US bio weapon being tested in China (I think that's one of the Chinese narratives) or it could be a random hop to a different species by a virus which regularly mutates (actually the most likely source, has happened before and will happen again)


However, it's never been clearer that government exists only to protect the economy, people are just a disposable and renewable resource that the economy uses up and spits out.

[TassieTiger]

Specifically- for Tas LGS.
I went to three lgs in Tassie today.
Shops most recent orders have just been filled...and all shops confirmed, that they have been told there is no expected shipments in the next 12 months at minimum!!!

When the 3rd shop confirmed this same message, I’m sorry, but I bought up what I could...
Stores I visited had no mainstream powders - or ppl had left money to pick up later.
Tassie being what it is - somewhat unique - but be aware ppl. We are going to go into lockdown - I’ve just had schools in tassie confirm they are closing.

[Stix]

I got some gear yesterday...they told me to my face the stock will stay the same price until sold out, & that more were on the way from supplier at same cost.

So i just bought some more of exactly the same thing from the same stock on the same shelf at the same place today & its suddenly gone up 10%..


I bet these people have a shed full of toilet paper & flour...

The nerve of some people is gobsmacking...!!

[TassieTiger]

Yes

And

Death rates are calculated based on "cases that have had an outcome" already
(Thus the current 15% death rate as of now)

That's perfectly normal and logical

We can't estimate the death rates based on "active cases" as we're not 100% sure on what's gonna happen with the active cases yet
(As they haven't had a definitive outcome yet)

You're confirming what I'm saying Trekin

The same website from where your quoting, is estimating between a 2 and 3% death rate - still very high for this type of virus but if 15% was really, really on the radar? I think the Army would already be deployed...

And Stix - I had no idea blackened looked like that. Hell - I thought blackened was a bloke, I’m going to start swearing at everyone now...f u, f them, f everybody lol

[Blr243]

When I run out of bullets to shoot food I can use my dog to hunt with and a wooden spear with a fire hardened tip ( I got it all sorted )

[marksman]

went out saw 15 fallow and 2 red deer, 3 in the freezer before the total lockdown

l suggest some of you guys do the same instead of the bullchit argueing about bullchit stats that we all know are not true, cannot be

why the baiting by our resident lefty knowitall sh!tstirer is not pulled up by blackened has me farked, protected species l suspect

[TassieTiger]

Freezers are full MM, bunnies, wallaby, resident sheep are looking sick lol.
Think there is - should be? - some leeway, ppl are scared and locked in / on their keyboards.

I don’t like the name calling either, but I don’t think it’s malice, it’s frustration, over zealousness, it’s fear of the unknown and it’s going to get worse.

That being said. Ms page - Whip me, whip me - yeehaas!

[marksman]

Freezers are full MM, bunnies, wallaby, resident sheep are looking sick lol.
Think there is - should be? - some leeway, ppl are scared and locked in / on their keyboards.

I don’t like the name calling either, but I don’t think it’s malice, it’s frustration, over zealousness, it’s fear of the unknown and it’s going to get worse.

That being said. Ms page - Whip me, whip me - yeehaas!

good to see you are onto it Tassie

l am very interested in hearing what people have to say, especially about this chinese disease
l am not interested in watching someone being conceited thinking they are intelligent talking down to someone, its bullying
what l have been seeing for a long time is the same conceited person getting threads shutdown that dont have to be
its his game thinking he is greater

[Am88]

I agree Marksman, another number's looker, another internet expert, I didn't know he was still here actually, I haven't seen another post about a first gun or scope or camo or anything for a while, the media started all this rubbish and it will rule it. Yes it is a serious disease, I wonder how inflated the numbers are from which people have OTHER issues, cancer or such, who are dying anyway, but catch this disease and boom, they are written off as being killed by covid.

[JimTom]

So how about those local gun shops running out of stuff because of Covid 19 eh.

[DaveZ]

**Stranger slowly slides in from stage left to join the ruckus**

Soooo, my opinion, which is worth what I charge for it, any immediate shutdowns for the virus are not the main thing to be worried about here. I think the economic fallout from so many people being out of work will bankrupt many small businesses. The government can only throw cash at everyone for so long, then what? There's going to be a lot of cash strapped families when we come out the other side of this, it will not be back to "business as usual".

The virus will do what it does, not much any of us can do about it except try not to catch the damn thing or spread it to others. here's hoping it passes quicker and less painfully than we all fear.

Cheers,
Dave.

[TassieTiger]

Haha JT. Yep. Bugger lol
I heard being paranoid of CV increases your chances 69% of contracting it.

[DaveZ]

exactly right mate, the recovered patients I'd guarantee aren't reported to full value

All the people who show little to no symptoms and have not been tested cannot be in the recovered figure either. They have been tight with tests as there isn't a huge supply so there would be heaps not tested I'd reckon.

[Am88]

So how about those local gun shops running out of stuff because of Covid 19 eh.

I went to one of my 3 in town on Monday, they had a healthy supply of ADI powder, but couldn't see it lasting long, one other shop had sold out of powder, one other shop was close. projectiles flying off the shelf as well, I need to get my hands on another couple hundred primers before it all happens yet

[Am88]

All the people who show little to no symptoms and have not been tested cannot be in the recovered figure either. They have been tight with tests as there isn't a huge supply so there would be heaps not tested I'd reckon.

Correct mate yes, I read an article of a gentleman who tested positive and barely had any symptoms. Tom hanks and his wife would have had a ripper week or 2 in quarantine because he looked fine too.

[Stix]

I cant believe an extra thread about toilet paper has to be made when one exists, & that this thread about firearms retailers supplies & possible shutdowns, continually gets switched to food supply & lumbered with COVID19 statistics & bulls**t arguements.

Think ill start a thread about pet fish in the varminting section to discuss cleaning concrete with dehydrated tea leaves, & argue the virtues of climate change caused by burnt gunpowder...

[Sergeant Hartman]

Rotfl... hmm this thread is funny... marksman mate i think the mods listen to you more than they listen to me... and i am sure they enjoyed stix little picture...

[Member-Deleted]

I cant believe an extra thread about toilet paper has to be made when one exists, & that this thread about firearms retailers supplies & possible shutdowns, continually gets switched to food supply & lumbered with COVID19 statistics & bulls**t arguements.

Think ill start a thread about pet fish in the varminting section to discuss cleaning concrete with dehydrated tea leaves, & argue the virtues of climate change caused by burnt gunpowder...

You had me at "pet fish in the varminting section" Stix... now that's a thread

[Member-Deleted]

just googled "USA ammunition shortage 2008-2013" - interesting Wikipedia reading, that a run on the gun stores in late 2008 led to ammo shortages that lasted a good 12-18 months, and then came back in 2012 with a second panic buy.

Seems .22LR copped it too, because small profit margins on .22 meant manufacturers preferred to either put production effort into other calibers, or more than double the price for .22
Might pick up a brick or two tomorrow [and you know, fuel the panic

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hey i went and shot all my ammo on Monday at the range... but i am glad i stocked up last year on projectiles and powder.... i just need to get a little bit more tomorrow though... cuz you just never know.

I did tell them to leave some 4 me, hopefully he remembered.

Ohh to add to that earlier post i need to grow an avocado tree in my backyard.