TassieTiger wrote:GDB - I think healthy debate is beneficial, entertaining, educational and I am not too big to have my mind changed by anyone at any time.
Times like we are in now will no doubt mean more wayward posts than normal as ppl get frustrated. I agree that pissing matches are ridiculous and non beneficial but in some ways they are inevitable given some emotional subject matter - but after All the heat has died down, we do have to remember - we are a minority that should be rowing together in the same direction.
OB...Pertinent point is that gun crime is committed by criminals - there’s a “hint” in the gun crime title...
Do you honestly think that a criminal is going to go to a back alley to buy a rifle that he(she) intends harm with and go - I’ll take the bolt action, because the semi is illegal? Gun to expensive? Well hey - instructions elsewhere in IT Re other devices if the F wit is adamant.
I have no issue with “some” hoops as Womble posted, but some of those hoops are well and truly entrenched already...
The ongoing cat calls for people to leave because they disagree with you, sarge and Bill is growing tiring. You can’t say “play the discussion point, not the man” and then repeatedly say - if you don’t like it F off. That’s just immaturity at its finest.
Sorry not clear what you were saying there.
Ill say this.
We cant stop professional criminals by legislation..
But I simply believe there needs to be a limit. At the moment some of the restrictions are just plain silly and not rational. But there still needs to be some checks and balances.
Problem is as soon as some one says that (above) its in some peoples mind interpreted as ban all guns. And that is simply BS. The same people want unlimited number of semis and 30 roung mags.
That demonstrates to me that perhaps those people are the ones that shouldnt have one.
As a group we need to demonstrate responsibility.
Some people have a licence for many years, then could go off the rails. May not even be that persons fault. But if he had a semi 223 with 5x20 round magazines would anyone here want their daughter in that shopping center? And some here would simply say they are criminals. Not always that simplistic.
A slightly different subject. On a FB page the otherday people were effectively bragging they shoot all deer under a light. And was intimated a fair bit of it was not legal. I wonder w hat thd GMA staff or police would think if they saw that?
Like someone said earlier a lot of it is about culture.
Politicians and the general public need to be comfortable with the culture, use and ownership of guns. IMHO the vast number of shooters are responsible and within limits i would be happy for them to have 1 or 2 semis. Its in fringe element concerns me.