Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by Stix » 25 Jun 2020, 8:39 pm

ATGNI...i get the impression of being dismissed in the fact i stated i dont have an interest in what the girls say, but that i find interest in the social reaction, & that people are willing to go against the grain of their beliefs, all in order to be accepted...
So the crux of what ive put forward, being that of significant social impacts are indeed influencing life to the highest levels of power, & causing bigoted laws to be passed based on fear & emotion, has been dismissed, if not by any other means, than by ommitance of such in any replies...in which youve only replied with suggestions i may find some enlightenment in what these girls say...

Two completely different levels of subject never crossing paths yet needlessly banging on...
And im not going to bother with me being so desperately naive to not understand how an eyeroll would normally be considered a form of humourous acceptance of someone elses comments...
But then, communication by text does that.. :unknown:

Anyway...doesnt matter...im not upset...im just all alone in my poor little world of not being understood... :violin:

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Whatever... :unknown:

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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by TassieTiger » 25 Jun 2020, 8:48 pm

Stix wrote:
But then, communication by text does that.. :unknown:
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This is a huge statement and has even put Rifts amongst my extended family...Without seeing or hearing expression - written communication is so difficult to interpret...as intended.
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by allthegearandnoidea » 25 Jun 2020, 8:55 pm

Definitely misunderstood the eyeroll - that is the universal response I get from my family when I tell what I think is a funny joke. So I thought it a way of agreeing iot was funny but a bit corny.
I think I will back off a bit from posts for a while - I think its not a positive thing in many ways - my wife once sarcastically said its a way to show people how smart you think you are.
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by marksman » 25 Jun 2020, 8:59 pm

ATG - dont know why you think everyone is talking to YOU :unknown:

but if l want to applaud young Tonytm for her view on the hypocrisy of what's agreeable to the left in the currant woke change culture l will :shock:

l am entitled to an opinion, same as her and everyone else :roll: :drinks:

ps, "I love the way a lot of people blame schools when kids are far more influenced by friends/family/social media"
oh really AGT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxiqOrR0Hpc
so you do not believe schools are indoctrinating our children, there you go
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by Bill » 25 Jun 2020, 9:44 pm

The delusion in this young girl is strong, naive and idealistic she really does come across as a twit, no different to Greta.

As to applauding a young girl with no life experience, you got to be kidding me marksman ? talk about a low bar :thumbsdown:
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by marksman » 25 Jun 2020, 10:31 pm

of course l'm kidding you Bill, of course l am ;)

l must say l am pretty impressed that two of our forum leftys have denounced greta in one thread :thumbsup:
how change culture woke of you :lol: :drinks: farken awesome :lol:

"she really does come across as a twit, no different to Greta"

"Similar to the kind of simplistic naive rants weve come to expect from Greta"

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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by allthegearandnoidea » 25 Jun 2020, 11:14 pm

How dare you! :o
I will not be lectured to by someone whose sole source of information seems to be twitter and SkyNews
I lean neither right nor left but call out bs equally. When I see it
If you're taking your cues from a 15 year old you need to broaden your horizons. This is what political commentary has come to? If she rolled that monologue out in a high school debate she'd be laughed off the lectern.
Talk about dumbing down the conversation :crazy:
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by Stix » 26 Jun 2020, 12:05 am

Personally i dont think the average kid in school has enough of a rationalised & developed brain to grasp the entire concept...& if they have, they havent lived long enough to have seen the worlds stupidity in its entirety anyway, so cant possibly understand something they havent experienced.

In any case...why does this have to be a shallow arguement about a girl being a political commentator...?...why cant it be a discussion about the points she raises :unknown: ---like that because you are a cop, doesnt excuse you for killing a minority black man, & if you are a minority black man, doesnt give you licence in acting out revenge in a violent way against innocent people... :unknown:

These are points she raises, & valid ones...they happen in our society...& we enable it, yet we dont do anything about it... :unknown:

Nobody is telling anybody to take her political views as their own...

I mean really...im beginning to think its of no surprise we cant screw on a suppressor if we have to argue the look of a point, rather than the point itself...

Well im obviously not going to go & start my own forum...because i got no money & i suck at IT anyway...
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by straightshooter » 26 Jun 2020, 7:12 am

Of course the lefties are abandoning that poor little Swedish girl.
She failed to deliver the climatic blitzkrieg the green left were hoping for and is now just an embarrassing laughing stock.
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by trekin » 26 Jun 2020, 7:15 am

Stix wrote:Personally i dont think the average kid in school has enough of a rationalised & developed brain to grasp the entire concept...& if they have, they havent lived long enough to have seen the worlds stupidity in its entirety anyway, so cant possibly understand something they havent experienced.

In any case...why does this have to be a shallow arguement about a girl being a political commentator...?...why cant it be a discussion about the points she raises :unknown: ---like that because you are a cop, doesnt excuse you for killing a minority black man, & if you are a minority black man, doesnt give you licence in acting out revenge in a violent way against innocent people... :unknown:

These are points she raises, & valid ones...they happen in our society...& we enable it, yet we dont do anything about it... :unknown:

Nobody is telling anybody to take her political views as their own...

I mean really...im beginning to think its of no surprise we cant screw on a suppressor if we have to argue the look of a point, rather than the point itself...

Well im obviously not going to go & start my own forum...because i got no money & i suck at IT anyway...

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You have to remember that this youngster (and Greta, to a certain extent) are living though and experiencing this right now, so her opinions do somewhat matter.



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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by allthegearandnoidea » 26 Jun 2020, 9:50 am

.why cant it be a discussion about the points she raises :unknown: ---like that because you are a cop, doesnt excuse you for killing a minority black man, & if you are a minority black man, doesnt give you licence in acting out revenge in a violent way against innocent people... :unknown:



How can you have a worthwhile discussion about things that are obviously self evident. Yes cops shouldnt kill people and people shouldn't riot - where can we go from here? Talk about a circle jerk :unknown:

Blonde girl does a grreat line in dog whistling and people who should know better come running - please dont let yourself be manipulated into outrage - That's what SkyNews is for :sarcasm:

Save your outrage for the fact that Qlders cant hunt in state forests and we cant screwa supressor onto our rifles (eh Stix - I'm with you there)
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by marksman » 26 Jun 2020, 11:34 am

allthegearandnoidea wrote:How dare you! :o
I will not be lectured to by someone whose sole source of information seems to be twitter and SkyNews
I lean neither right nor left but call out bs equally. When I see it
If you're taking your cues from a 15 year old you need to broaden your horizons. This is what political commentary has come to? If she rolled that monologue out in a high school debate she'd be laughed off the lectern.
Talk about dumbing down the conversation :crazy:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:

in fact you would be limiting yourself to a minimum of information if you did not take into account all sides of the story
to throw away information because it did not come from a source that was to your approval shows you are not interested in the information
maybe Tonytm's outrage at the left's hypocrisy is learned from adults who are also outraged at the left's hypocrisy but it comes from fact as does the sky news story you carelessly will not consider because you have a bias against the source ;) :lol:

so really who is dumbing down the conversation :unknown: brush it off because it came from sky news or twitter, cannot have any truth :roll: :drinks:

ziad/benny/albert/sarge used to say he did not lean neither right nor left, like you but like you mate it sounds pretty left to everyone else :lol: :wtf:

l have to say as well l have experience with the sh!t that the schools are trying to teach our young children, one in primary school, one in high school and one doing her masters in uni, the last tells me how you cannot voice an opinion against the growing left ideals or risk being ostracized and has had many students call her out for eating bambi, she supports the pro hong kong students who passively protest against ccp china and has copped abuse because of it

l have also called out one of my children's school principals who l told l did not want my then 8 year old being taught about gender fluidity at school but was told that he had no choice, that he was not allowed to teach religion anymore but at that time his and all schools had to teach gender fluidity
we came to an agreement that when this rubbish was being taught l would pick up my child, problem solved

and greta's idol, who she has posted up on utube as being her inspiration, where she got the information to start protesting was attenborough who we all know has been outed as a fake, but can you trust the source :lol: she said it on utube :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rkv-ItznBE


l think l'll go and broaden my horizons and watch a bit of sky news :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by Stix » 26 Jun 2020, 11:45 am

trekin wrote:
Stix wrote:Personally i dont think the average kid in school has enough of a rationalised & developed brain to grasp the entire concept...& if they have, they havent lived long enough to have seen the worlds stupidity in its entirety anyway, so cant possibly understand something they havent experienced.

In any case...why does this have to be a shallow arguement about a girl being a political commentator...?...why cant it be a discussion about the points she raises :unknown: ---like that because you are a cop, doesnt excuse you for killing a minority black man, & if you are a minority black man, doesnt give you licence in acting out revenge in a violent way against innocent people... :unknown:

These are points she raises, & valid ones...they happen in our society...& we enable it, yet we dont do anything about it... :unknown:

Nobody is telling anybody to take her political views as their own...

I mean really...im beginning to think its of no surprise we cant screw on a suppressor if we have to argue the look of a point, rather than the point itself...

Well im obviously not going to go & start my own forum...because i got no money & i suck at IT anyway...

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After 58 years on this rock, there is only one thing I'm certain of, and that is that the level of stupidity in tomorrows (and the next day and so on) headlines will prove that even if I were to live for an other hundred years, I would never see just how stupid the people of this world are.
You have to remember that this youngster (and Greta, to a certain extent) are living though and experiencing this right now, so her opinions do somewhat matter.

David Hogg, now there's a name that hasn't been discussed in a while.


Trekkin...I wasnt suggesting her opinions dont matter...
& im not sure how you get that from what i said... :unknown:
I agree with the points she raise & the sentiment she carries...
I also may have been trying to steer a non sensicle arguement back to discussion around the OP...rather than that which others try to make it into... ;)
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by marksman » 27 Jun 2020, 12:11 pm

l see we have had a cleanup :thumbsup:
great idea

if you dont mind l kind of liked the angry bit
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What do we tell 'em boys
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There comes a time when every man must fight
What he believes in just isn't right
He'll take so much til he'll take no more
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We're gonna fight to the very last man
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Re: Topical and Succinct (warning mild foul language)

Post by trekin » 27 Jun 2020, 2:19 pm

Stix wrote:
trekin wrote:
Stix wrote:Personally i dont think the average kid in school has enough of a rationalised & developed brain to grasp the entire concept...& if they have, they havent lived long enough to have seen the worlds stupidity in its entirety anyway, so cant possibly understand something they havent experienced.

In any case...why does this have to be a shallow arguement about a girl being a political commentator...?...why cant it be a discussion about the points she raises :unknown: ---like that because you are a cop, doesnt excuse you for killing a minority black man, & if you are a minority black man, doesnt give you licence in acting out revenge in a violent way against innocent people... :unknown:

These are points she raises, & valid ones...they happen in our society...& we enable it, yet we dont do anything about it... :unknown:

Nobody is telling anybody to take her political views as their own...

I mean really...im beginning to think its of no surprise we cant screw on a suppressor if we have to argue the look of a point, rather than the point itself...

Well im obviously not going to go & start my own forum...because i got no money & i suck at IT anyway...

giphy (13).gif

After 58 years on this rock, there is only one thing I'm certain of, and that is that the level of stupidity in tomorrows (and the next day and so on) headlines will prove that even if I were to live for an other hundred years, I would never see just how stupid the people of this world are.
You have to remember that this youngster (and Greta, to a certain extent) are living though and experiencing this right now, so her opinions do somewhat matter.

David Hogg, now there's a name that hasn't been discussed in a while.


Trekkin...I wasnt suggesting her opinions dont matter...
& im not sure how you get that from what i said... :unknown:
I agree with the points she raise & the sentiment she carries...
I also may have been trying to steer a non sensicle arguement back to discussion around the OP...rather than that which others try to make it into... ;)
:)
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I may have the bull by the balls here, but the very first sentence of your post suggests, to me at least, that the opinions of younger, school going people are not held very highly by yourself personally. At least, that is the way I read it and as said I may have hold of the balls, instead of the horns. Which, I must say, seems contradictory to the rest of this post (and to your other posts in this thread) and somewhat confusing to this reader.
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