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Re: Victorian Registry's (LRD) Covid threat

Post by mchughcb » 31 Aug 2020, 9:32 am

VIC GUN SHOP ACTION
The Victorian action has involved three hearings at the Firearms Appeals Committee and many, many hours of work for the NSC executive and our barrister.

VicPol previously tried to shut our action down on the basis of how our appeal was filed. They failed. They argued that the Firearms Appeals Committee does not have jurisdiction to hear the appeal. Again, they failed.

VicPol are now calling the reason why the FAC exists into question, in their latest attempt to stop our appeal being heard. Last Wednesday (5th August) the FAC conducted a 3 hour hearing to hear the arguments from both sides. It will consider the submissions and announce its decision in writing by the end of August.

FUTURE OF APPEAL RIGHTS IN VIC RESTS ON THIS CASE
It is vital that dealers in shooters have a right of appeal against decisions that adversely affect them. Where and how these rights might be heard vary among the jurisdictions but in Victoria, the FAC has long been where appeals in that state are heard.

Historically the FAC has dealt with individual licensing matters, with VicPol often reaching some sort of settlement “out of court” like it did recently with Geelong dealer Rod Haugh, that we reported on. However this case is different as it tests the FAC's jurisdiction in a case that affects every dealer and where VicPol clearly have a lot riding on this.

If the FAC rules that it does not have jurisdiction to hear our appeal, then this would, in our view, defeat the reason why the FAC exists, and so the very future of the FAC could hang off this decision. A case like this has never happened before in Victoria, so the outcome is likely to set a legal precedent on the future of the FAC.

Thank you to all our members and supporters on behalf of the NSC executive Committee for your support. We will continue the fight for fair treatment and a better deal and will fight all the way and as hard as we can.

We’ll be back in a couple of weeks time, hopefully with some good news in Victoria. The fight continues.
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Re: Victorian Registry's (LRD) Covid threat

Post by TassieTiger » 31 Aug 2020, 10:01 am

In regards to receiving emails from NSC - it has taken me 2 weeks to ascertain why I have not been receiving emails in regards to latest news.
Turns out the my senior management have outlawed all staff from accessing any web sites that have the word rifle, gun, shooting, etc in their web addresses - along with that, the IT policy has been updated to reject / hold emails with similar wording.
I have confronted my managemrnt re this and have been advised it’s state govt policy...what the actual F...

I’ll be penning a letter to my local.
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Re: Victorian Registry's (LRD) Covid threat

Post by mchughcb » 31 Aug 2020, 10:38 am

Lol, imagine being a IT administrator at Pornhub.com and then finding and trying to ban all employees working on their own website.
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Re: Victorian Registry's (LRD) Covid threat

Post by TassieTiger » 31 Aug 2020, 10:45 am

^ thing is - I see staff at work, all day, access you tube, face ache, AFL and numerous other websites.
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Re: Victorian Registry's (LRD) Covid threat

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Aug 2020, 3:21 pm

TassieTiger wrote:In regards to receiving emails from NSC - it has taken me 2 weeks to ascertain why I have not been receiving emails in regards to latest news.
Turns out the my senior management have outlawed all staff from accessing any web sites that have the word rifle, gun, shooting, etc in their web addresses - along with that, the IT policy has been updated to reject / hold emails with similar wording.
I have confronted my managemrnt re this and have been advised it’s state govt policy...what the actual F...

I’ll be penning a letter to my local.


Restrictions are often in place in workplaces for IT and email. FYI they are genarally able to read all of your email. IMO it is unwise to use company/work email for personal use.

Personally I have for at least the past 10 years directed all personal email to my personal, home address.
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Re: Victorian Registry's (LRD) Covid threat

Post by TassieTiger » 31 Aug 2020, 3:27 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
TassieTiger wrote:In regards to receiving emails from NSC - it has taken me 2 weeks to ascertain why I have not been receiving emails in regards to latest news.
Turns out the my senior management have outlawed all staff from accessing any web sites that have the word rifle, gun, shooting, etc in their web addresses - along with that, the IT policy has been updated to reject / hold emails with similar wording.
I have confronted my managemrnt re this and have been advised it’s state govt policy...what the actual F...

I’ll be penning a letter to my local.


Restrictions are often in place in workplaces for IT and email. FYI they are genarally able to read all of your email. IMO it is unwise to use company/work email for personal use.

Personally I have for at least the past 10 years directed all personal email to my personal, home address.


That’s fine OB - if they want to enforce that policy, I have no issue - but - when they actively go out of their way to ban one sport over another, are they not walking into discriminatory grounds? They actively encourage AFL tipping via their internet and computers and similar sports, but one cannot even read local sport shooting results...or any news aligned with shooting sports...?
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CZ455 .22 & Norinco .22 (vtex 4-12, bush 3-9)
ATA 686 U/O 12g & Baikal S/S 12g.
Adler a110 reddot
Sauer 30-06 - VX 3
Howa 300 win mag. SHV 5-20/56
Marlin SBL 45/70
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Re: Victorian Registry's (LRD) Covid threat

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Aug 2020, 3:47 pm

TT, I agree. Was just saying.
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