Firearms Industry Shortfalls?

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Firearms Industry Shortfalls?

Post by Member-Deleted » 07 Sep 2020, 10:34 am

Hi guys,

Once (if) these turbulent times end, I'll be looking for a new field of work, I figure as I am so passionate about gun rights and the industry, I may as well work in it. Do any of you know where the industry might be lacking and needing reinforcement or perhaps a new angle?

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Post by No1Mk3 » 07 Sep 2020, 2:09 pm

G'day BangWhizzClack,
Making a living at what you propose is very unlikely, many of those who work in that area are volunteers whilst paid Industry people have reached where they are after many years, sometimes decades, of volunteer work or part time work in gunshops and trade related areas. One way of getting a foot in the door is to get to know your local shop and volunteering to help a few hours on a Saturday in the back room packing and unpacking which could lead to front counter work, or contacting some organization such as Shooters & Fishers to volunteer to hand out pamphlets at gunshows and elections or if you have some office skills contact someone like the NSC and enquire about employment opportunities, Cheers.
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Post by eddievic » 07 Sep 2020, 7:00 pm

also ofcourse keep an eye out for jobs being advertised at gunshops, local importers and distributors. Or even ssaa, or local gun clubs. Become an RO.
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Post by Ziege » 07 Sep 2020, 8:56 pm

there are too many to list, but major one would be GUN FKN POWDER!!!
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Post by TassieTiger » 07 Sep 2020, 9:13 pm

You could study the firearms act to the nth degree along with each state regs and then offside a specialist lawyer maybe...
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Post by on_one_wheel » 07 Sep 2020, 9:33 pm

Get on the SSAA board, wake up and shake up the snoozers, spend some of our $millions$ (yes that money belongs to it's members) on fighting against the onerous restrictions that are constantly forced apon us.
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Post by boingk » 07 Sep 2020, 9:49 pm

Good work on chanelling the passion mate, go ask the local gun shop and get a foot in the door. Many shops I know are all but begging for staff (or even new proprietors) as their owners age and suffer health related problems.
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Post by Dedd » 08 Sep 2020, 12:15 am

If by "industry" you meant Warwick, Lithgow, etc. then I imagine most of the positions they are short for would be skilled work (engineers, machinists, etc.). Any unskilled job they have would be the same as anywhere else, although your enthusiasm would likely help you get an interview.
If you meant more on the political side of things, those groups are usually (to my understanding) staffed with mostly volunteers. The smaller parties (ie. all the pro-gun parties) don't have tonnes of money to throw around employing people.

The gun shop idea is a good one though. Since covid got me canned (twice) I decided to look into it myself. First thing I found:
"We have an opportunity for an Administrative Assistant to be part of our Firearms Registry team."
Lmao, I don't think my pride could stand it. Although, it's tempting to actually try and be helpful. Either way it's out of my area.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 08 Sep 2020, 9:28 am

Thanks for the tips guys, if you have any more, keep them coming. I was thinking more along the lines of what does the industry need to get going? Another political party? Another range owner/officer? Another dealer? Another firearm/ammo manufacturer? Media representative? Activist? Function organiser i.e. public firearm conventions? Feral pest controller? Professional sport shooter? Collectors club/museum? Etc?
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Post by Member-Deleted » 08 Sep 2020, 10:53 am

Ziege wrote:there are too many to list, but major one would be GUN FKN POWDER!!!


What about "GUN FKN POWDER!!!" exactly do you think needs to be improved? I'm not a reloader currently.
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Post by Ziege » 08 Sep 2020, 7:45 pm

none available as in, ADI never send out what stores order
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Post by Peter988 » 08 Sep 2020, 8:25 pm

Not enough rifle ranges. See if you can get a few of those started.
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Post by marksman » 08 Sep 2020, 9:00 pm

Ziege wrote:none available as in, ADI never send out what stores order


apparently they have started up again so it shouldn't be long :thumbsup:
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Post by Ziege » 08 Sep 2020, 11:35 pm

theyve been "started up again" for ages, this problem stems to pre covid. they preference foreign demand over australians its bs
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Post by straightshooter » 09 Sep 2020, 9:08 am

marksman and Ziege
Production isn't the problem.
It's the 'cockeyed' regulations for transport and storage that are the main problem as well as a distribution monopoly.
As for ADI selling overseas, business is business and if that's where the money is then that's how it has to be. The factory wouldn't survive on production for just Australian shooters.
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Post by womble » 09 Sep 2020, 9:25 am

A firearms safety program for schools in western Sydney
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Post by Member-Deleted » 09 Sep 2020, 9:27 am

Peter988 wrote:Not enough rifle ranges. See if you can get a few of those started.


Are talking about in regional Australia? A particular state? Etc.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 09 Sep 2020, 9:28 am

womble wrote:A firearms safety program for schools in western Sydney


That sounds like a joke...
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Post by Member-Deleted » 09 Sep 2020, 9:33 am

Ziege wrote:none available as in, ADI never send out what stores order


Okay, so a better supply line for powder. Anything else you can think of? Something that might bring the industry out from it's quiet corner?
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Post by eddievic » 09 Sep 2020, 4:31 pm

get a truck license, get a DG license, buy a truck. Open a courier company. Get the contact to transport gunpowder, ammo and explosives..... do it for free. Everyone will benefit highly.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 09 Sep 2020, 5:11 pm

eddievic wrote:get a truck license, get a DG license, buy a truck. Open a courier company. Get the contact to transport gunpowder, ammo and explosives..... do it for free. Everyone will benefit highly.


A ammo and explosive transport company that operates for free..... hmmm
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Post by Member-Deleted » 09 Sep 2020, 5:19 pm

So I can see how the suggestions thus far save a few show places where the industry is lacking, but it doesn't really seem like them being solved would bring the industry out of it's corner, which is what I'm looking for.
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Post by Dedd » 09 Sep 2020, 6:54 pm

The only place I can think of where the industry is lacking, which would also help bring about change, is the lack of shooters. I'm not really sure what kind of job would help that though. Firearms registry maybe? Quicker licence applications would certainly help. Maybe your local range needs more ROs? Presumably that'd require some kind of RO qualification though.

Most of the issues holding the industry back are legislative. If you want to change them, you need to be somewhere you can affect legislation (ie. parliament). And as much as pollies seem determined to convince us otherwise, it's not really an entry-level job.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 10 Sep 2020, 2:22 pm

Dedd wrote:The only place I can think of where the industry is lacking, which would also help bring about change, is the lack of shooters. I'm not really sure what kind of job would help that though. Firearms registry maybe? Quicker licence applications would certainly help. Maybe your local range needs more ROs? Presumably that'd require some kind of RO qualification though.

Most of the issues holding the industry back are legislative. If you want to change them, you need to be somewhere you can affect legislation (ie. parliament). And as much as pollies seem determined to convince us otherwise, it's not really an entry-level job.


Hahaha I agree we need more shooters and supporters. Maybe we could put up on the boards at ranges flyers for the different pro-gun organisations?
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Post by Dedd » 10 Sep 2020, 7:50 pm

That might get a few more people to join those groups, but I imagine most of them are already in one.
We need more people getting licenses in the first place.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 10 Sep 2020, 9:38 pm

Dedd wrote:That might get a few more people to join those groups, but I imagine most of them are already in one.
We need more people getting licenses in the first place.


I agree.
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