Mental Health and your License

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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by winton » 05 Oct 2020, 11:06 am

I don't know what the other states are like (they "seem" to have more freedom, except WA, I know WA is strict), but I'm awakened to how authoritarian our society here in Victoria has become. Seeing protesters being arrested and police telling home owners in their own neighbourhoods to move on or arrested for obstruction, just feels really disappointing. I use to hear protesters being let off or left alone for exercising their rights, but now I see them being sentenced to many months in jail. I've read about pensioners being assaulted by police. How did we get here? Enforcement has gotten really strict and harsh.

Grandadbushy, are you lawyering up to get your wife's license back? Sometimes a gentle reminder by a known firearms lawyer to Licencing Division helps alot.

EddieVic, don't assume your doctor will do right by you. Perhaps they think doing right by you means dobbing you in. If they are aware, they may have to think about their careers in case one of their many patients with firearms leave the reservation. You're gonna get some docs who just hate guns and hunters.

Larry, I've always opted out of govt databases. Soon, the data they have can be used for cross matching. The ATO already do this extensively. It only takes a small deal with the insurance industry to allow them access to your data.
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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by marksman » 05 Oct 2020, 1:36 pm

Grandadbushy wrote:Yep exactly right marksman this whole covid thing has awakened a monster it just shows what lengths a government will go to to hold power and how ill prepared the world is if a major event did happen , how governments and the individual politicians would turn on each other , just like now, with the blame game ,i don't remember garbage if their memory is that bad they shouldn't be making decisions for the country, imagine if you had a lawyer with a memory like that , yes these pollies don't realise they are becoming the laughing stock of humanity and placing our police in a compromising situation ,''damned if you do damned if you don't''


very true Grandad, people are having a good look at the way things are run now and it is waking people up
Australians are not in it together, in fact it is making a big divide amongst us
when citizens do not feel safe to seek help and that the right thing will not be done by them in their own country there is a problem :unknown:
l hope Dan keeps his restrictions on and pays off the crossbenchers like he did for the extended emergency powers,
all it is doing is making hate for himself
a couple of friends have said to me if the libs were in what would have been different :unknown: l say have a look at NSW's performance :wtf: :lol:
then they go quiet and see my point :thumbsup: they also know l do not vote lib :roll:
the only people who are ok with this mess are the people who are not affected by it, lets wait till the feds stop paying and they are affected :drinks:
l dont think anyone would put money on Dan being elected again :thumbsdown:
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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by Grandadbushy » 05 Oct 2020, 4:23 pm

No Winton we don't go looking for trouble especially when it costs a lot of money, we've been told now after the operations she can reapply for the licence but as i said the rigmarol ie ( doctors, eye specialists and the list goes on ) we'd have to go through would cost too much money and take up too much time , she still comes shooting with me and there's no law against her having a shot whilst with a licenced shooter so really other than her not being able to own a gun (but i can ) and these fools have somewhat saved us money and we can still shoot together if we chose to do so. Mind you it did hurt the way they went about it , so now i've taken them all off my friends list never to be reinstated. :thumbsup: :)
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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by Grandadbushy » 05 Oct 2020, 4:42 pm

marksman i doubt ''Deadly Dan'' would have a bet on himself, the thing that does worry me is how Victoria has become a Police state will this be the norm for the future, but you know the old saying kick the dog too much he will bite you , I think these pollies in power today are in for a rough trot at the elections , most of them should be put into an '' Old Peoples Home '' because they seem to have lost their memories, ( the old can't remember syndrome ) which is just as contagious as covid in the ranks of politicians
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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by SAnewb85 » 06 Oct 2020, 8:34 pm

I believe doctors fall into the "mandatory reporting" category.
So their career/medical license is on the line of they don't report your mental health issues.

Having said that, if I felt that I had genuine mental health issues, I'd transfer my guns to a trusted mate until I sorted myself out.

Not going to say too much other than I believe that shrinks are a massive part of the mental health problem in Australia and that the over prescription of anti depressants and anxiety meds is biting us on the a$$.

Medications are great for short term relief, but are the long term equivalent of using a band aid to cover an amputated limb.

So, long story short, id take responsibility for my own safety and mental health before trusting doctors or government departments
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Post by SAnewb85 » 06 Oct 2020, 8:45 pm

Furthermore, I would suggest that a significant number of people who have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety are actually suffering from situational regret and remorse related to poor life choices than genuine psychological disorders.

In my humble opinion (based on my own experiences) a gym membership and eating well is 90% as effective as seeing a shrink and medications with longer lasting results.

Other major factors include being in unsatisfying relationships or jobs/addiction.

But that's a whole different conversation
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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by Skinna » 07 Oct 2020, 9:06 am

SAnewb85 wrote:Furthermore, I would suggest that a significant number of people who have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety are actually suffering from situational regret and remorse related to poor life choices than genuine psychological disorders.

In my humble opinion (based on my own experiences) a gym membership and eating well is 90% as effective as seeing a shrink and medications with longer lasting results.

Other major factors include being in unsatisfying relationships or jobs/addiction.

But that's a whole different conversation


Yes it is an entirely different conversation mate...there is a big difference to being down, or being down for a while, due to whatever reasons, & severe depression...

Aint no gym membership, not even a free one will ever stop someone jumping who is riddled with depression & standing on the edge of a cliff...!!
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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by TassieTiger » 07 Oct 2020, 4:37 pm

Skinna wrote:
SAnewb85 wrote:Furthermore, I would suggest that a significant number of people who have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety are actually suffering from situational regret and remorse related to poor life choices than genuine psychological disorders.

In my humble opinion (based on my own experiences) a gym membership and eating well is 90% as effective as seeing a shrink and medications with longer lasting results.

Other major factors include being in unsatisfying relationships or jobs/addiction.

But that's a whole different conversation


Yes it is an entirely different conversation mate...there is a big difference to being down, or being down for a while, due to whatever reasons, & severe depression...

Aint no gym membership, not even a free one will ever stop someone jumping who is riddled with depression & standing on the edge of a cliff...!!


Each case on its merits...11 knee operations saw me hit a depression, as the ongoing rehab and pain just slowly drove me mad...ironically a book about the bulls**t world of shrinks was ultimately what kicked me free...the author - a shrink, actually advises that the industry doesn’t fix anyone completely...ever. Brilliant book - stop thinking and start living, Dr Carlson.
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Re: Mental Health and your License

Post by SAnewb85 » 11 Oct 2020, 12:37 pm

TassieTiger wrote:
Skinna wrote:
SAnewb85 wrote:Furthermore, I would suggest that a significant number of people who have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety are actually suffering from situational regret and remorse related to poor life choices than genuine psychological disorders.

In my humble opinion (based on my own experiences) a gym membership and eating well is 90% as effective as seeing a shrink and medications with longer lasting results.

Other major factors include being in unsatisfying relationships or jobs/addiction.

But that's a whole different conversation


Yes it is an entirely different conversation mate...there is a big difference to being down, or being down for a while, due to whatever reasons, & severe depression...

Aint no gym membership, not even a free one will ever stop someone jumping who is riddled with depression & standing on the edge of a cliff...!!


Each case on its merits...11 knee operations saw me hit a depression, as the ongoing rehab and pain just slowly drove me mad...ironically a book about the bulls**t world of shrinks was ultimately what kicked me free...the author - a shrink, actually advises that the industry doesn’t fix anyone completely...ever. Brilliant book - stop thinking and start living, Dr Carlson.


Indeed mate, I had a ton of operations that pushed me to the brink.
Definitely a case by case conversation though.

Skinna- nothing will stop someone who has made that choice. No amount of shrinks, medication or exercise.
Its a sad reality of depression/suicide.
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