womble wrote:Thanks but no thanks.
Australia s**ts all over the US in all global rankings, living standards, quality of life, freedom.
We do pay higher taxes though for all this. But then we get better wages and work leave here by far.
Back on topic, why the dramatic rise in mass shootings there over the past few years ?
I think this article breaks it down https://theconversation.com/mass-shootings-in-the-us-have-risen-sharply-in-2020-why-150981
And yes i chose an unbiased source https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/
Robin wrote:There is no reason for a mass shooting, its crazy whats happening over there and yet nothing gets done about it, yes knives can kill and even a .22 bolt action can kill many, however a ar15 can kill alot more in a short amount of time and put into the wrong hands, anything can happen.
While the US is having all these mass shootings, our public and Pollies are going to look at the US for example , we will never get automatics or semi autos while these shootings keep happening, I know im very safe and I'm assuming most hear are safe also, however what happens over there, gives our Pollies the ammo they need to stop us from having all the fun toys.
Oldbloke wrote:IMO there are a few reasons.
Too easy to get semi-autos of any type. Including large capacity mags.
Few states check criminal or mental back ground.
I don't think training is required in most states.
Far too many bad movies.
Culture that violence is the way to fix problems.
Lots of poor people
A few own about 90% of the wealth.
Medical attention is expensive
Mental help, probably almost impossible.
Little or no assistance for the unemployed
Lot of racism
Lots of drugs
People feel screwd by the crap capitalist political system
For many a feeling of helplessness
Ziege wrote:and AR-15 rifles are used in something like less than 0.5% of these shootings... whatever the stat genuinely is, it makes their use almost completely insignificant.
go figure.
Ziege wrote:womble wrote:Thanks but no thanks.
Australia s**ts all over the US in all global rankings, living standards, quality of life, freedom.
We do pay higher taxes though for all this. But then we get better wages and work leave here by far.
Back on topic, why the dramatic rise in mass shootings there over the past few years ?
I think this article breaks it down https://theconversation.com/mass-shootings-in-the-us-have-risen-sharply-in-2020-why-150981
And yes i chose an unbiased source https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/
might wanna roll back the freedom comment, we have pretty much 0 rights as people here and even less if left to our own countries constitution and law.
Robin wrote:There is no reason for a mass shooting, its crazy whats happening over there and yet nothing gets done about it, yes knives can kill and even a .22 bolt action can kill many, however a ar15 can kill alot more in a short amount of time and put into the wrong hands, anything can happen.
While the US is having all these mass shootings, our public and Pollies are going to look at the US for example , we will never get automatics or semi autos while these shootings keep happening, I know im very safe and I'm assuming most hear are safe also, however what happens over there, gives our Pollies the ammo they need to stop us from having all the fun toys.
wanneroo wrote:Oldbloke wrote:IMO there are a few reasons.
Too easy to get semi-autos of any type. Including large capacity mags.
Few states check criminal or mental back ground.
I don't think training is required in most states.
Far too many bad movies.
Culture that violence is the way to fix problems.
Lots of poor people
A few own about 90% of the wealth.
Medical attention is expensive
Mental help, probably almost impossible.
Little or no assistance for the unemployed
Lot of racism
Lots of drugs
People feel screwd by the crap capitalist political system
For many a feeling of helplessness
womble wrote:Your founding fathers were dumbasses.
Deal with it.
You don’t give kids on drugs assault rifles.
It’s remarkably stupid.
Oldbloke wrote:Ziege you don't complain about licences for trucks, or aircraft.
Yet you never stop complaining about firearm licence restrictions.
Sooo what's the difference mate?
Oldbloke wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Ziege you don't complain about licences for trucks, or aircraft.
Yet you never stop complaining about firearm licence restrictions.
Sooo what's the difference mate?
I'll chime in and say that firearms in the US are meant to prevent tyranny. They have other uses, but that is their primary purpose there.
[/i]
Utter Bull s**t. We were not born in the last shower. Really if you believe that you are soooo gullible.
BangWhizzClack wrote:Oldbloke wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Ziege you don't complain about licences for trucks, or aircraft.
Yet you never stop complaining about firearm licence restrictions.
Sooo what's the difference mate?
I'll chime in and say that firearms in the US are meant to prevent tyranny. They have other uses, but that is their primary purpose there.
[/i]
Utter Bull s**t. We were not born in the last shower. Really if you believe that you are soooo gullible.
That is the purpose of the second amendment. It's not for hunting, sporting or home protection. It's to allow the people to effectively rise up and defeat tyrannical regimes. If you think that is not the case, then you sir, are the gullible one.
womble wrote:That’s hardcore bangwhizz, but it’s the 17th century and these tossers are puritans, so no surprises there.
Here in Aus we have a separation of state and religion and a constitutional right to freedom of religion.
So yeah another freedom win smashing them out of the ballpark.
BangWhizzClack wrote:Oldbloke wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Ziege you don't complain about licences for trucks, or aircraft.
Yet you never stop complaining about firearm licence restrictions.
Sooo what's the difference mate?
I'll chime in and say that firearms in the US are meant to prevent tyranny. They have other uses, but that is their primary purpose there.
[/i]
Utter Bull s**t. We were not born in the last shower. Really if you believe that you are soooo gullible.
That is the purpose of the second amendment. It's not for hunting, sporting or home protection. It's to allow the people to effectively rise up and defeat tyrannical regimes. If you think that is not the case, then you sir, are the gullible one.
womble wrote:We’re a colony, not a republic.
Our freedom of speech was enacted in 1689 bill of rights, English parliament.
Freedom of assembly. Haha try stopping us. We’re a signatory to seven different international human rights treaties.
Good luck getting any legislation through against it.
AUSTRALIA FTMFW
BangWhizzClack wrote:That is the purpose of the second amendment. It's not for hunting, sporting or home protection. It's to allow the people to effectively rise up and defeat tyrannical regimes.
womble wrote:Does Tara airlines have flights to the 17th century ?
I’ll chip in for him
wanneroo wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:That is the purpose of the second amendment. It's not for hunting, sporting or home protection. It's to allow the people to effectively rise up and defeat tyrannical regimes.
That is the main purpose. It's a check on out of control government.
Just the past 100 years is litered with irrefutable examples of government tyranny slaughtering millions of defenseless citizens.
It also plays it's role in national defense. Would much of WW2 happened if citizens of countries that got invaded were all armed with AR-15s? I think not.
Switzerland let everyone know in WW1 and WW2 that there is an accurate rifle behind every blade of grass and nobody messed with Switzerland.
Oldbloke wrote:Yes, physical violence is the answer isn't it ziege. The real goat comes out now.
Off you go. To the land of the free, to shoot each other in the street. Lol
Just for you mate. Sold the farm yet?
https://youtu.be/LXb28mVZiJo