deye243 wrote:And over 350 million citizens what is your point
womble wrote:
Noisydad wrote:Here’s link to a US CDC document that clearly shows there are several means of death way common than firearms related ones.
boingk wrote:With over 40,000 gun deaths and 500 mass shootings last year alone, I'm not surprised.
Rather than just collecting incidents of death, GVA also catalogs incidents where a victim was injured by shooting or by a victim who was the subject of an armed robber or home invader.Incidents of defensive gun use, home owners who stop a home invasion, store clerks who stop a robbery, individuals who stop an assault or rape with a gun are also collected. The overall goal is to provide information on most types of gun violence, and gun crime, no matter where it is on the political table.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/methodology
Main Outcomes and Measures
Changes in mass fatal shooting incidents (defined as ≥5 victims, not including the perpetrator)
Conclusions and Relevance
Following enactment of gun law reforms in Australia in 1996, there were no mass firearm killings through May 2016. There was a more rapid decline in firearm deaths between 1997 and 2013 compared with before 1997 but also a decline in total nonfirearm suicide and homicide deaths of a greater magnitude.Because of this, it is not possible to determine whether the change in firearm deaths can be attributed to the gun law reforms.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2530362
womble wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:womble wrote:
Sad, but apears to be true.
boingk wrote:Good stat grabs there guys, way better info than my quick search turned up.
As for population contorl, if they (the govt) really wanted to crush you - utterly and copletely crush you - they would. They've got an army, with tanks and planes and all sorts of crap to throw into the equation.
And 99% of the boogaloo crew wouldn't do a goddamn thing, no matter how many tac-web bag and AR15's they have.
And you know it.
- boingk
Skinna wrote:Oldbloke wrote:womble wrote:
Sad, but apears to be true.
Old Bloke, like myself, you were around before the steal back & brainwashing of our society...& id hazard a pretty good guess, that in at least 25% of the houses in the streets both you & i lived in, there were rifles & shotguns behind bedroom doors, under Dads side of the bed, & stuffed both in & on top of wardrobes, or like i grew up with, hung on all the walls in the shed with the pool table, & we had little if ANY culture problem with firearms...bar the odd exception of suicide that wouldve happened with or without a gun...!!!!
womble wrote:I have’nt agreed or disagreed with anything
I don’t have a solution for their problem. I’m just glad i don’t live there.
Op’s video did’nt offer a solution either.
It’s understandable that Americans are upset and hope for improvement. In my opinion if you don’t like it there, leave.
Oldbloke wrote:I'm guessing 99% of US citizens would like to see a pretty significant reduction in these gun deaths. All murders in fact.
If you want change for the better there must be change. Its pretty basic.
IMO there needs to be changes in three key areas,
Social,
Cultural.
Gun laws.
Seems to me only trained & responsible people should own/use firearms. Anyone who disagrees with laws that are designed to ensure that is a bit of a nong.
If you keep baking the cake using the same recipe and its a flop, expect more flops.
bigrich wrote:Oldbloke wrote:I'm guessing 99% of US citizens would like to see a pretty significant reduction in these gun deaths. All murders in fact.
If you want change for the better there must be change. Its pretty basic.
IMO there needs to be changes in three key areas,
Social,
Cultural.
Gun laws.
Seems to me only trained & responsible people should own/use firearms. Anyone who disagrees with laws that are designed to ensure that is a bit of a nong.
If you keep baking the cake using the same recipe and its a flop, expect more flops.
I agree with you OB
I thank god that we don’t have the same gun laws as America, I can think of lots of idiots I’ve met in my life that should not have access to firearms
And none of these people I’m thinking of have a diagnosed mental health issue, some are just dumb f@kwits who do dumb sh!t when they get on the booze or have a fight with the missus
I think Canada has high firearms ownership and I believe the Swiss have “assault “ rifles in lots of homes over there. So the difference is a cultural one from my view
Anyway, that’s my two cents
bigrich wrote:Yes OB , we need balanced gun laws on account of the unbalanced people in our society
wanneroo wrote:The American conservative is the last stand worldwide against the Great Reset agenda.
This is why they are pulling out all the stops with violence in the cities, hysterical news reporting, endless laws and mandates being proposed by the biden administration, mysterious unexplained "mass" shootings.
So we will see extraordinary pressure, emotional manipulation, threats, direct action and all sorts of shenanigans to destroy the American conservative here in the next couple of years. Expect the drama and hysteria to increase dramatically.
As every Communist revolutionary knows, you've got to get the guns to win. This is why the leftist run democrat cities where it's very hard to own, buy or carry a gun is where all the violence is. The communists know that you don't mess with places like where I live. Hence they will use their pals in the biden administration and government to pass the rules they need to suppress and make it difficult to own a gun. A lot of states and localities now are considering becoming 2nd Amendment sanctuaries.