bladeracer wrote:That is disgusting. Has he at least been able to identify the officers?
JimmyS wrote:So he opened the door for them, and they proceeded to throw him to the ground and handcuff him, without any hesitation or provocation from the old timer? They also did not identify themselves, and took his firearms and ammo, stating his licence was suspended?
This sounds oddly suspicious, i.e. they may not have been members of Vic Pol, though if they were...
I hope a s**t show is rained down upon these two officers like never before.
Larry wrote:It could perhaps also be reported as
Police conducting drug bust at a rural property were approached by a man carrying a gun. Police then disarmed the man without any shots being fired. the man was taken to hospital for observation and to be interviewed by police tomorrow.
There are normally two sides to a story in this case the reporting seems to be very one sided. We should expect better from all parties reporting on matters.
I am not saying it didnt happen exactly as described but read carefully. The man was on his way to cull vermin by shooting. It indicates he was possibly carrying a gun. He was on his way to his neighbors he was more than likely outside walking over there. the police were at the neighbors nothing about them going to his place . A lot of gaps in the story
NSC wrote:For all those speculating here with their theories:
1: Stuart was NOT carrying a gun in his backyard and he DID not fake his own injuries.
2:It was NOT a "drug bust" and he has NOT been charged with anything.
3:VicPol DID call an ambulance and then left him alone.
4:LRD(Registry) have written to Stuart advising that his licence suspension WILL be lifted and his firearms returned upon presentation of satisfactory medical reports.
5.Both the NSC and Stuarts local MP, Bev McArthur, are comfortable in supporting Stuart.
The NSC now has information RE the identity of the two VicPol members involved and has received other reports seperately RE conduct and behaviour of one of the two members involved!
Whilst we are taught as children that the Police are the "good guys" sadly in Victoria over the last few years VICPOL has shown an increasing tendency to use excessive force and has even shot innocent people that has resulted in millions of $ in taxpayer funded "out of court" settlements.
We are really disappointed to read some of the comments here.
NSC
rossfrb wrote:The article states that the police were plain clothed.
I don't know under what circumstances or role Vic police wear civies instead of a uniform.
This guy was out on a farm in regional Victoria - he'd likely know the local copper
This doesnt sound like your local coppers to me, which makes it even more odd.
Be interesting to find out the full truth of the matter.
rb
NSC wrote:
We are really disappointed to read some of the comments here.
NSC
disco stu wrote:NSC wrote:
We are really disappointed to read some of the comments here.
NSC
In all fairness, how often are we told half the story, get up in arms, then finally hear all the facts and realise things were very different to what we were first told. I think it's only healthy for people to question things, and I didn't see anyone can the article BS, just outwardly wondered if there was more to it.
Thankfully all of my dealings with police re firearms have been very positive. That's not my experience with all dealings though
InisBineest wrote:disco stu wrote:NSC wrote:
We are really disappointed to read some of the comments here.
NSC
In all fairness, how often are we told half the story, get up in arms, then finally hear all the facts and realise things were very different to what we were first told. I think it's only healthy for people to question things, and I didn't see anyone can the article BS, just outwardly wondered if there was more to it.
Thankfully all of my dealings with police re firearms have been very positive. That's not my experience with all dealings though
I'm a NSC member, and happy to see this looked into. That said, I agree with the statement above. Too often this happens with many sources of media and it often makes those with their arms still in the air look like idiots. That said, there is no reason this matter should not be investigated by any legally able party until the whole story is about to come out, and i'm glad the NSC, among others, are onto it.
rossfrb wrote:The article states that the police were plain clothed.
I don't know under what circumstances or role Vic police wear civies instead of a uniform.
This guy was out on a farm in regional Victoria - he'd likely know the local copper
This doesnt sound like your local coppers to me, which makes it even more odd.
Be interesting to find out the full truth of the matter.
rb
No1Mk3 wrote:Way out in the boonies ZaineB, 10 million reasons why plainclothes/unmarked are essential for law enforcement and have done since the days of Sir Robert Peel. Everything from not letting crooks know they're on to them to visiting victims of crime without advertising to all and sundry that someone is interacting with cops to not intimidating sexual/domestic violence victims with over authoritarian looks and countless other reasons. And they didn't "beat the snot out of him", inflammatory garbage as the photos of the gentleman prove, he was roughly and unreasonably manhandled in an intimidating and completely un-necessary way causing bruising to his arms and body with slight grazing to his face, hopefully grounds for both officers to become unemployed.
No1Mk3 wrote:Way out in the boonies ZaineB, 10 million reasons why plainclothes/unmarked are essential for law enforcement and have done since the days of Sir Robert Peel. Everything from not letting crooks know they're on to them to visiting victims of crime without advertising to all and sundry that someone is interacting with cops to not intimidating sexual/domestic violence victims with over authoritarian looks and countless other reasons. And they didn't "beat the snot out of him", inflammatory garbage as the photos of the gentleman prove, he was roughly and unreasonably manhandled in an intimidating and completely un-necessary way causing bruising to his arms and body with slight grazing to his face, hopefully grounds for both officers to become unemployed.