bigrich wrote:
yeah ,okay . some valid concerns and points . what actual right to defend ones self do you think should exist ? i don't think anyone on here is opposed to having rights . what rights are you talking about that you would want to see changed ? are you advocating lethal force ?
It matters not what a person uses to defend themselves, if someone is attacked they should not have to use equal force, they should be allowed to use whatever force they deem necessary themselves in the moment. If its lethal then sobeit, someone can kill you with their hands, in most instances if you use a weapon of any sort and someone else is unarmed, despite being the aggressor, you have committed aggravated assault or worse under the law. This should not exist. If someone is trying to punch or kick or strangle anyone, the victim should be able to use anything they can to defend themselves and yes this extends well and truly to firearms, as well as use them to ward off attack. Currently both are crimes in Australia.
bigrich wrote:i myself grew up in a single parent family in a blue collar suburb in logan . when i was younger i knew bike club members and some scary career crim types . i left that behind me a long time ago . but i've been in some scary life threatening situations , true grit won out for me . that and i'm a big unit
we already have a sorta right to self defence , but it's pretty grey in definition . but you have to prove your actions were just to the authorities . guilty till proven innocent in some cases .depends on what state you live in too.
Proving your actions seems good in theory, but unless you have been there, you don't know, I do, costs a lot of money to "prove" anything in court, so good luck with that. Also if you use certain "weapons" in a defensive manner, there is nothing you can do to prove innocence as that in itself is a crime. A victim of an attacker shouldn't have to put themselves into considerable debt to prove they were defending themselves or to validate why they did so the way they did.
and yeah what you say about being a big guy is fine for you, but does not suit a lot of people, in fact wouldn't suit over half the populations needs, not everyone has "grit" and not everyone has the physique to exert on others.
bigrich wrote: as for people being "a disgrace " and being scared to stand on their own feet , your showing a total lack of respect to any veiw that differs from your own . you seem quite militant , and are really trolling on others moderate points of veiw . so we should all agree with your more radical veiws or cop a trolling ? doesn't sound very democratic to me . what about the freedoms of others ? agree with me or else . yeah , fascist , communists all used the same hardline attitude . you need to find empathy for others zaine
I know for a fact, from the horses mouth of older blokes who were there, that they hate how society has turned out, I'm not wrong when I say that almost a generation of men died for nothing given where we have let this place devolve to. And sure, maybe, but here's the thing, I'm not even that hardline, I am more or less a complete centrist, but having someone drone on with the same old s**t as OB does is just beyond tolerable, someone with no guts telling someone who is literally advocating for the weakest of Aussies that I am a coward who should move to the USA? what? really? I should listen to that? no thanks.