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More National Parks coming to Victoria.

Post by Oldbloke » 21 Mar 2024, 5:06 pm

Public Consultation has begun on the future of Victoria's Central Highlands.

The proposal is that the area of NPs more than double, locking out hunters and many other users.

This is what happened to Western Victorie about three years ago and now in 2030 the amount of NPs in Western Victoria will be huge locking us out most of the public land we have been hunting on.

It's important that we capitalise on making our voices heard.

https://engage.vic.gov.au/central-highlands-forests.

Make your voice heard.

Time for all of the shooting organisations to pull their fingers out if their fat arses. Esp SSAA, F&G, ADA and SFFP. If they are smart they will fill Spring St with shooters like in '96. But some how I doubt it. :unknown: :?

The dark green are current NPs light green proposed NPs.
Don't let the Greene's win again.

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Post by on_one_wheel » 21 Mar 2024, 5:50 pm

Looks like it's open to interstate feedback.

I haven't hunted public land over the boarder yet but with almost zero public land available in SA I'd hope that one day I'd will pop over for a hunt.

That leaves me with one question...
Where within the proposed area should I drop the pin / pins on the map?
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Post by Lazarus » 21 Mar 2024, 5:55 pm

I applaud your enthusiasm OB, but you're fighting the citified, veganazi drive against hunting.

Haven't you got the "memo"?

We are expected to trap, neuter and release now.
That's the "humane" way to deal with ferals.

What a shame we can't use the same philosophy with veganazis.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 21 Mar 2024, 8:08 pm

Lazarus wrote:I applaud your enthusiasm OB, but you're fighting the citified, veganazi drive against hunting.

Haven't you got the "memo"?

We are expected to trap, neuter and release now.
That's the "humane" way to deal with ferals.

What a shame we can't use the same philosophy with veganazis.


You'll be sent to your naughty mat if you keep that attitude up ...
Fill the bloody thing out already.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 21 Mar 2024, 8:30 pm

Done , good to see other hunters have dropped pins on the map.
I'm also seeing horse riders are active on the survey.
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Post by Oldbloke » 21 Mar 2024, 8:36 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:Done , good to see other hunters have dropped pins on the map.
I'm also seeing horse riders are active on the survey.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by deye243 » 21 Mar 2024, 9:58 pm

If you voted Labor stfu if not fight
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Post by Oldbloke » 01 Apr 2024, 1:10 pm

Well, Ive been busy but just submitted a 460 word submission.

I hope others are having a crack. Only 1 month to go.
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Post by stihl88 » 03 Apr 2024, 4:04 pm

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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Apr 2024, 5:05 pm

stihl88 wrote:This is what will happen to your feedback
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More than likely correct. But we all need to provide the feed back just in case. To not indicates your a defeatist .
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Post by stihl88 » 04 Apr 2024, 11:19 am

Oldbloke wrote:
stihl88 wrote:This is what will happen to your feedback
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More than likely correct. But we all need to provide the feed back just in case. To not indicates your a defeatist .

You mean realist... :lol:
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Post by alexjones » 04 Apr 2024, 11:24 am

Oldbloke wrote:
stihl88 wrote:This is what will happen to your feedback
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More than likely correct. But we all need to provide the feed back just in case. To not indicates your a defeatist .



Exactly mate. Doing something is always better than just bending over. I can never understand that low testosterone commie defeatist mindset. In my younger years I got a hiding by 7 blokes. I fought back knowing I would get my arse kicked, and I did badly. But it was better than just laying on the ground and let them give me a hiding.
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Post by alexjones » 04 Apr 2024, 11:26 am

stihl88 wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:
stihl88 wrote:This is what will happen to your feedback
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More than likely correct. But we all need to provide the feed back just in case. To not indicates your a defeatist .

You mean realist... :lol:


I am confused here. You have a 1776 patriot photo as your picture but your words sounds like it belongs in the communist manifesto?
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Post by stihl88 » 04 Apr 2024, 12:24 pm

alexjones wrote:
stihl88 wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:
stihl88 wrote:This is what will happen to your feedback
Feedback.jpg


More than likely correct. But we all need to provide the feed back just in case. To not indicates your a defeatist .

You mean realist... :lol:


I am confused here. You have a 1776 patriot photo as your picture but your words sounds like it belongs in the communist manifesto?

Oh and how proud i am to carry the 1776 patriot logo, my family have shed generations of blood, sweat and tears fighting oppressive regimes, from tyrannical governments to communist dictatorships and the likes. What about yours, what logo can you proudly carry? A portrait of Alex Jones maybe :o

Let's address your confusion;
Your interpretation of my statement seems overly simplistic, which suggests a lack of depth in understanding this complex issue. Believing that participating in government surveys on firearm regulation is effective might be well-intentioned, but in my view, it's misguided. Such activities can inadvertently support the agendas of those who may wish to restrict our freedoms under the guise of involvement and consensus-building.

To truly make a difference, it's crucial to support and vote for leaders who share our commitment to preserving our rights. Anything less might not be as effective as we hope. Merely completing surveys, especially those offered by entities that do not share our values, can inadvertently support a narrative we oppose. Not filling in their surveys doesn't signify defeatism; rather, it indicates a refusal to engage on terms that don't serve our interests.
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Post by Lazarus » 04 Apr 2024, 12:57 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:
Lazarus wrote:I applaud your enthusiasm OB, but you're fighting the citified, veganazi drive against hunting.

Haven't you got the "memo"?

We are expected to trap, neuter and release now.
That's the "humane" way to deal with ferals.

What a shame we can't use the same philosophy with veganazis.


You'll be sent to your naughty mat if you keep that attitude up ...
Fill the bloody thing out already.


I spend so much time on the naughty mat, in the naughty corner, wearing the pointy naughty hat, I have left an impression of my buttocks on it.

The mat.

Not the hat.
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Post by Lazarus » 04 Apr 2024, 1:11 pm

stihl88 wrote:Oh and how proud i am to carry the 1776 patriot logo, my family have shed generations of blood, sweat and tears fighting oppressive regimes, from tyrannical governments to communist dictatorships and the likes. What about yours, what logo can you proudly carry? A portrait of Alex Jones maybe :o

Let's address your confusion;
Your interpretation of my statement seems overly simplistic, which suggests a lack of depth in understanding this complex issue. Believing that participating in government surveys on firearm regulation is effective might be well-intentioned, but in my view, it's misguided. Such activities can inadvertently support the agendas of those who may wish to restrict our freedoms under the guise of involvement and consensus-building.

To truly make a difference, it's crucial to support and vote for leaders who share our commitment to preserving our rights. Anything less might not be as effective as we hope. Merely completing surveys, especially those offered by entities that do not share our values, can inadvertently support a narrative we oppose.This approach doesn't signify defeatism; rather, it indicates a refusal to engage on terms that don't serve our interests.


Your pride in your logo and family history is fine, but given it's American, and we are talking about Australia, your views on protecting our "rights" is welcome, but somewhat misguided.
We have only 5 "rights" under our constitution;
""These are the right to vote (Section 41), protection against acquisition of property on unjust terms (Section 51 (xxxi)), the right to a trial by jury (Section 80), freedom of religion (Section 116) and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117).""

The permit to own firearms is a "privilege" here, not a right.
It should be a right, but let's not let magical thinking cloud reality.
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Post by stihl88 » 04 Apr 2024, 3:51 pm

Lazarus wrote:
stihl88 wrote:Oh and how proud i am to carry the 1776 patriot logo, my family have shed generations of blood, sweat and tears fighting oppressive regimes, from tyrannical governments to communist dictatorships and the likes. What about yours, what logo can you proudly carry? A portrait of Alex Jones maybe :o

Let's address your confusion;
Your interpretation of my statement seems overly simplistic, which suggests a lack of depth in understanding this complex issue. Believing that participating in government surveys on firearm regulation is effective might be well-intentioned, but in my view, it's misguided. Such activities can inadvertently support the agendas of those who may wish to restrict our freedoms under the guise of involvement and consensus-building.

To truly make a difference, it's crucial to support and vote for leaders who share our commitment to preserving our rights. Anything less might not be as effective as we hope. Merely completing surveys, especially those offered by entities that do not share our values, can inadvertently support a narrative we oppose.This approach doesn't signify defeatism; rather, it indicates a refusal to engage on terms that don't serve our interests.


Your pride in your logo and family history is fine, but given it's American, and we are talking about Australia, your views on protecting our "rights" is welcome, but somewhat misguided.
We have only 5 "rights" under our constitution;
""These are the right to vote (Section 41), protection against acquisition of property on unjust terms (Section 51 (xxxi)), the right to a trial by jury (Section 80), freedom of religion (Section 116) and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117).""

The permit to own firearms is a "privilege" here, not a right.
It should be a right, but let's not let magical thinking cloud reality.

Actually my statement still stands and my family history is irrelevant to your point.

My reference to "rights" is implicit, just as yours appears to be. Australia doesn't have any rights in it's constitution unlike the US which has a bill of rights. These rights you speak of are merely "implied" as such and are subject to interpretation and development over time.
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Post by Lazarus » 05 Apr 2024, 7:21 am

stihl88 wrote:
Lazarus wrote:
stihl88 wrote:Oh and how proud i am to carry the 1776 patriot logo, my family have shed generations of blood, sweat and tears fighting oppressive regimes, from tyrannical governments to communist dictatorships and the likes. What about yours, what logo can you proudly carry? A portrait of Alex Jones maybe :o

Let's address your confusion;
Your interpretation of my statement seems overly simplistic, which suggests a lack of depth in understanding this complex issue. Believing that participating in government surveys on firearm regulation is effective might be well-intentioned, but in my view, it's misguided. Such activities can inadvertently support the agendas of those who may wish to restrict our freedoms under the guise of involvement and consensus-building.

To truly make a difference, it's crucial to support and vote for leaders who share our commitment to preserving our rights. Anything less might not be as effective as we hope. Merely completing surveys, especially those offered by entities that do not share our values, can inadvertently support a narrative we oppose.This approach doesn't signify defeatism; rather, it indicates a refusal to engage on terms that don't serve our interests.


Your pride in your logo and family history is fine, but given it's American, and we are talking about Australia, your views on protecting our "rights" is welcome, but somewhat misguided.
We have only 5 "rights" under our constitution;
""These are the right to vote (Section 41), protection against acquisition of property on unjust terms (Section 51 (xxxi)), the right to a trial by jury (Section 80), freedom of religion (Section 116) and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117).""

The permit to own firearms is a "privilege" here, not a right.
It should be a right, but let's not let magical thinking cloud reality.

Actually my statement still stands and my family history is irrelevant to your point.

My reference to "rights" is implicit, just as yours appears to be. Australia doesn't have any rights in it's constitution unlike the US which has a bill of rights. These rights you speak of are merely "implied" as such and are subject to interpretation and development over time.



Totally true unfortunately stihl88, we were a convict colony, but rather than arc up over the price of tea, and kick the Brit's arses, like you guys, we just waited until they got bored and pissed off home.

The reason we have no real, codified, "rights" like America is perhaps down to the "She'll be right mate" attitude down here.

Also unfortunate is the cold hard fact that with over 90% of the population here not being gun owners, and the upcoming generation being so delicate that a full stop at the end of a sentence is considered to be passive agressive, we have a snowball's chance in hell of things ever improving.

PS
Given your handle, I have to ask, have you tried the Ms500i?
I've never seen anything but comp saws go through timber like it.
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Post by Oldbloke » 06 May 2024, 10:01 am

Tonight there is the final meeting regarding the new proposed NPs at Alexandra shire hall, a 6 pm start. Suggest if possible hunters attend.
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Post by bigrich » 06 May 2024, 2:39 pm

Lazarus wrote:
stihl88 wrote:Oh and how proud i am to carry the 1776 patriot logo, my family have shed generations of blood, sweat and tears fighting oppressive regimes, from tyrannical governments to communist dictatorships and the likes. What about yours, what logo can you proudly carry? A portrait of Alex Jones maybe :o

Let's address your confusion;
Your interpretation of my statement seems overly simplistic, which suggests a lack of depth in understanding this complex issue. Believing that participating in government surveys on firearm regulation is effective might be well-intentioned, but in my view, it's misguided. Such activities can inadvertently support the agendas of those who may wish to restrict our freedoms under the guise of involvement and consensus-building.

To truly make a difference, it's crucial to support and vote for leaders who share our commitment to preserving our rights. Anything less might not be as effective as we hope. Merely completing surveys, especially those offered by entities that do not share our values, can inadvertently support a narrative we oppose.This approach doesn't signify defeatism; rather, it indicates a refusal to engage on terms that don't serve our interests.


Your pride in your logo and family history is fine, but given it's American, and we are talking about Australia, your views on protecting our "rights" is welcome, but somewhat misguided.
We have only 5 "rights" under our constitution;
""These are the right to vote (Section 41), protection against acquisition of property on unjust terms (Section 51 (xxxi)), the right to a trial by jury (Section 80), freedom of religion (Section 116) and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117).""

The permit to own firearms is a "privilege" here, not a right.
It should be a right, but let's not let magical thinking cloud reality.


unfortunately lazarus is spot on . being able to own firearms is a privilege at the discretion of the government in oz . you can bang on about rights and all mr 1776 , but your not in the states now . different rules, culture and government structure . shooters in this country, and the organizations that are supposed to support/represent them, need to be more pro-active that's for sure . the only pollie i've noticed who's sympathetic to shooters besides bob katter , is bridgette makenzie :cry:
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Post by Oldbloke » 25 May 2024, 6:00 pm

I see ADA is also working on this issue.

https://www.austdeer.com.au/@news/2024/ ... nds-update
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Post by Oldbloke » 01 Jun 2024, 9:13 am

There is now an e-petition opposing these parks.

Suggest all Victorians here sign it.

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/get-i ... onal-parks
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Post by bigpete » 01 Jun 2024, 9:37 am

There is a Facebook group dedicated to stopping this if anyones interested.
Pity any petition I've gone to sign only allows Victorians.....like no one else from other states uses the state forests... :roll:
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Post by Oldbloke » 01 Jun 2024, 10:36 am

stihl88 wrote:And this one (lower house)

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/get-i ... nd-regions


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