Lithgow has stopped production.

[Oldbloke]

This is bad news.


https://sportingshooter.com.au/news/lit ... ead%20More

[bladeracer]

This is bad news.


https://sportingshooter.com.au/news/lit ... ead%20More

If they have that much stock sitting there I'm surprised I haven't been seeing some crazy specials to try to get some of it moving. I have no interest in them but they are lovely rifles so I'm sure some reduced prices would make a lot of cheaper rifle buyers look at them more closely.

I don't know about their statement that advertising is too hard because of anti-firearm social media, it's not like we have firearm adverts on television or radio or newspapers either, do we? I haven't watched TV, or listened to radio, or read newspapers for more than two decades though so I might be mistaken, but I haven't come across any discussion of such advertising. Are shooting magazines still sold in shops?

[No1Mk3]

Market saturation, that position when a new product enjoys rapid growth and sales until reaching a point where new buyers no longer exist and sales seem to slump. We are a very small firearms market, foreign markets are generally denied or inhibited to us for either political or financial reasons and I think Lithgow have not really factored that into their production planning.

[Wapiti]

They haven't stopped production at all, that's unwarranted sensationalism. They have paused production.
They just want to move the stock that's built up by (what might be) not-so-focused marketing and promotion. This decision wasn't taken lightly and is causing much grief.
If you read what's in print there, you'll see that they are looking for/negotiating with another distributor, and that they wish to keep producing sporting rifles as it employs many Australians, brings in much appreciated income and fits in with their other manufacturing schedules well to keep machines producing.

There's more info out there on this, Sporting Shooter online is not exactly the cream of the info crop.

[on_one_wheel]

I wonder if they're still moving their military stuff

[mchughcb]

I don't mind Lithgow. The only complaint I've had is they are too heavy. That's been my experience too for stalking.

[on_one_wheel]

They are definitely heavy.
I'm not a fan of their stocks, just a little too modern looking for my liking.

[alexjones]

Not a fan of lithgow since they refuse to sell the steyer to people with a cat D. They won't even export to the American civilian market because they support gun control. Bunch of commies in my opinion.

No legal reasons for them refusing to sell. Purely a company decision

[R95]

It’s not cat D and it’s not legal in America

[bladeracer]

It’s not cat D and it’s not legal in America

He means semi-auto and straight-pull versions.

[R95]

It’s not cat D and it’s not legal in America

He means semi-auto and straight-pull versions.

Lithgow don’t make those versions.

[alexjones]

It’s not cat D and it’s not legal in America

He means semi-auto and straight-pull versions.

Lithgow don’t make those versions.

The steyer by lithgow is made in semi auto version IE a cat D for QLD and legal to be exported into America for civilians.

[alexjones]

Here is the article of Lithgow canceling selling to American civilians based on “ethical grounds”. IE they think civilians should be disarmed.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... an-market/

[bladeracer]

It’s not cat D and it’s not legal in America

He means semi-auto and straight-pull versions.

Lithgow don’t make those versions.

Yes, we know, that's what his beef is...

[bigpete]

They're heavy and ugly imo.

[No1_49er]

They're heavy and ugly imo.

So, it's not about functionality, it's about how purty it is?
F^k wit

[bladeracer]

They're heavy and ugly imo.

So, it's not about functionality, it's about how purty it is?
F^k wit

I consider the weight to be a big part of functionality, the looks I don't really get into as I rarely look at my rifles.

[Oldbloke]

They're heavy and ugly imo.

So, it's not about functionality, it's about how purty it is?
F^k wit

Unbelievable!

[Oldbloke]

They're heavy and ugly imo.

So, it's not about functionality, it's about how purty it is?
F^k wit

I consider the weight to be a big part of functionality, the looks I don't really get into as I rarely look at my rifles.

Agree

[alexjones]

They're heavy and ugly imo.

So, it's not about functionality, it's about how purty it is?
F^k wit

You are the one being as you claim a “F^k wit”.

So what of old mates reasons for his opinion.

[No1_49er]

So you guys who say that weight is part of the functionality, for you, have actually used one?
I have, and have found them to be very functional.

[bigrich]

They're heavy and ugly imo.

So, it's not about functionality, it's about how purty it is?
F^k wit

You are the one being as you claim a “F^k wit”.

So what of old mates reasons for his opinion.

yeah , bit rude . pete's entitled to his opinion . i don't like the modern stock design much either . whilst being amazingly accurate , IMHO lithgow 102 crossover are not a stalking rifle at 8 1/2 pounds with no scope . the hunter version is 7 1/2 pound unscoped, with a fluted 22" barrel . i'd prefer a 24" barrel for the 243 and 6.5cm versions, but that's just me .for my uses and preferences
i got to play with a 101 in 22lr at my local range before a field rifle rimfire comp and i was surprised how well the 101 balances and the weight is really good for me . i'm really thinking about getting one . but it's ugly compared to a early anschutz or a weihrauch hw60j . just saying ......

[bigrich]

So you guys who say that weight is part of the functionality, for you, have actually used one?
I have, and have found them to be very functional.

well that's your opinion mate , trolling pete over his is just bad manners mate .

cheers

[R95]

Here is the article of Lithgow canceling selling to American civilians based on “ethical grounds”. IE they think civilians should be disarmed.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... an-market/

Do you want some kid shooting up his high school with an Australian made assault rifle. Yea naah.
Ethics mate.

How any Aussie can rubbish Lithgow boggles the mind.

The Vickers, the Bren, smle.

They’ve been manufacturing arms for civilians since about ww11.

How is an arms manufacturer interested in disarming civilians. What a f***ing bizarre take.

[bladeracer]

So you guys who say that weight is part of the functionality, for you, have actually used one?
I have, and have found them to be very functional.

My neighbour has the .22 and I found it unnecessarily heavy. Beautiful rifle but not for me.

[alexjones]

Here is the article of Lithgow canceling selling to American civilians based on “ethical grounds”. IE they think civilians should be disarmed.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... an-market/

Do you want some kid shooting up his high school with an Australian made assault rifle. Yea naah.
Ethics mate.

How any Aussie can rubbish Lithgow boggles the mind.

The Vickers, the Bren, smle.

They’ve been manufacturing arms for civilians since about ww11.

How is an arms manufacturer interested in disarming civilians. What a f***ing bizarre take.

Assault rifle? Nice bite of the media pie their mate. Since when is a semi automatic rifle an assault rifle? Why don’t you learn what an assault rifle actually is.

What the end user does with his product is not my problem. Why penalise everybody for some random scenario?

Just because they were good at one point in time does not mean they still are. If Lithgow was a good Australian company then they would be selling the steyer to Australians and to people all around the world. But they don't. They only want to sell to governments.

[R95]

Here is the article of Lithgow canceling selling to American civilians based on “ethical grounds”. IE they think civilians should be disarmed.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... an-market/

Do you want some kid shooting up his high school with an Australian made assault rifle. Yea naah.
Ethics mate.

How any Aussie can rubbish Lithgow boggles the mind.

The Vickers, the Bren, smle.

They’ve been manufacturing arms for civilians since about ww11.

How is an arms manufacturer interested in disarming civilians. What a f***ing bizarre take.

Assault rifle? Nice bite of the media pie their mate. Since when is a semi automatic rifle an assault rifle? Why don’t you learn what an assault rifle actually is.

What the end user does with his product is not my problem. Why penalise everybody for some random scenario?

Just because they were good at one point in time does not mean they still are. If Lithgow was a good Australian company then they would be selling the steyer to Australians and to people all around the world. But they don't. They only want to sell to governments.

Lol how many mass shootings has there been in the US with military issue assault rifles, or anywhere in the western world. About none.

And how many times has the media reported them as sporting rifles. About none.

The facts don’t matter. It would still be 100% reported as an Australian made assault rifle. And nobody in the land of the dumb, home of the fools, is going to dispute that.

What the end user does with their product does matter in the US. Because Lithgow would be bankrupted with litigation. You should know that Alex Jones.

They still are great rifles. The best they’ve ever made. They’re an Australian icon. Crossover rifles aren’t that popular here nowadays when you can have one of each or several of each. But there’s nothing sub par about their rifles.

[bigpete]

So you guys who say that weight is part of the functionality, for you, have actually used one?
I have, and have found them to be very functional.

So have I and I'd rather a model 70 featherweight any day over one. There's a thousand different rifles out there and they're all functional,but they aren't all appealing to everyone. s**t,every woman is functional but you're not going to f*** every one you see are you f*** wit ? For that matter you can root another bloke if you're that hard up but I sure ain't going to change sexuality just for functionality. You can go f*** yourself wanker

[straightshooter]

I don't know that all the toing and froing achieves anything worthwhile.
The simple commercial reality for Lithgow is their offerings only appealed to a relatively narrow market segment that was only ever likely to deliver modest volumes while the general market greeted them initially with curiosity but then with a yawn. The issue with cracks in barrels early on didn't help at all.
Trump's promised beautiful world of tariffs might change the calculus though.

[MG5150]

I'm only new to shooting, picked up a Lithgow 223 varmint rifle a few months back and love it. 5 shots through the same hole no worries at all.

I was told that Lithgow's doubled in price when Spika got involved, is that right? It would have been just before I got back into it.