Ammuntion bubble about to burst

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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by 1290 » 23 Jun 2014, 6:34 pm

Chronos wrote:In 2000 my now wife and I did arias trip through California from LA down to San Diego then up through Vegas, Death Valley and Yosemite to San Francisco and back to LA. Took us almost three weeks and when we were asked by the locals about our trip we were asked "how can you afford the gasoline, it's at an all time high "

Yep, it was about $1.26 a gallon.

Stupid Americans!

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I wouldnt say stupid necessarily,; when you're used to paying under a dollar a litre or gallon, its a shock to be paying much .... much more... especially when our soldiers are laying their lives down to protect 'our' global crude oil interests... sorry I meant bringing democracy to those nations in need...

I remember when our bowser price broke through $1/L for the first time... I think it may have been around the year 2000, its a shock...

Not so much stupid, more so taken for a ride by a global energy oligarchy....It is absolutely ridiculous, but not just the price of petrol at $1.60 when I last filled up... I was shaking my head all the way to the register, there was a woman in front of me who picked up a bottle of water (600 or maybe 750ml) and asked mow much, the reply was $5.... $5 for a bottle of water!!!, thats at least 6.66 a litre WTF is going on here... oh it was pure vitamin 100% water water.....


I'm off to Venezuela... 1c a litre petrol and free water!
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by Chronos » 23 Jun 2014, 7:44 pm

1290 wrote:
Chronos wrote:In 2000 my now wife and I did arias trip through California from LA down to San Diego then up through Vegas, Death Valley and Yosemite to San Francisco and back to LA. Took us almost three weeks and when we were asked by the locals about our trip we were asked "how can you afford the gasoline, it's at an all time high "

Yep, it was about $1.26 a gallon.

Stupid Americans!

Chronos

I wouldnt say stupid necessarily,; when you're used to paying under a dollar a litre or gallon, its a shock to be paying much .... much more... especially when our soldiers are laying their lives down to protect 'our' global crude oil interests... sorry I meant bringing democracy to those nations in need...

I remember when our bowser price broke through $1/L for the first time... I think it may have been around the year 2000, its a shock...

Not so much stupid, more so taken for a ride by a global energy oligarchy....It is absolutely ridiculous, but not just the price of petrol at $1.60 when I last filled up... I was shaking my head all the way to the register, there was a woman in front of me who picked up a bottle of water (600 or maybe 750ml) and asked mow much, the reply was $5.... $5 for a bottle of water!!!, thats at least 6.66 a litre WTF is going on here... oh it was pure vitamin 100% water water.....


I'm off to Venezuela... 1c a litre petrol and free water!


I wasn't implying all Americans are stupid, although in sure some if them are :lol:

It was a passing statement like, they don't know how good they have it

But then you think of what we have here, during our trip we witnessed the staggering amount of homeless and some areas that would put redfern to shame

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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by 1290 » 23 Jun 2014, 7:57 pm

No implying Chro, you SAID IT!!

But yes, we do have it good, and take it for granted....
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by Chronos » 23 Jun 2014, 8:42 pm

1290 wrote:No implying Chro, you SAID IT!!

But yes, we do have it good, and take it for granted....


yes but aussies are piss heads and poms are whiners, see how it works :lol:

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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by RealNick » 24 Jun 2014, 8:01 pm

ChicagoTed wrote:a few weeks ago i was at a gun show trying to haggle the price of a pmag(30 round ar15 mag) from $12 to $10 :lol:


Those kinds of prices are fantasy here.
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by wrenchman » 25 Jun 2014, 7:07 am

Just think of it like Obama says you just spreading your wealth why should you keep all your money.
But I am sorry it is affecting guys because when prices go up they never seem to come down.
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by MeccaOz » 25 Jun 2014, 7:23 am

wrenchman wrote:Just think of it like Obama says you just spreading your wealth why should you keep all your money.
But I am sorry it is affecting guys because when prices go up they never seem to come down.


They say it's inflation that takes it all ... but that mate is only a small part of them problem. We already pay over 50% tax ( including levy's 0 The UN envisages 70% + in the future ( it's aims ) And with the cashless society looming, it will know every dollar you make ... Sorry got side tracked but it might be time to go back to the barter system :lol:
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by becks » 25 Jun 2014, 4:10 pm

wrenchman wrote:when prices go up they never seem to come down.


Not for months at least.

Same old scam.

When there is a price increase cost go up instantly, when there is a decrease it takes 6 months for it to reach the consumer.

Petrol anyone?
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by Hilux2003 » 28 Jun 2014, 8:59 pm

Chronos wrote:
1290 wrote:No implying Chro, you SAID IT!!

But yes, we do have it good, and take it for granted....


yes but aussies are piss heads and poms are whiners, see how it works :lol:

Chronos


Thank you very much, "mate"!

And just to remind the readers, the margin on rifles in Aus. is not the same as other retail stuff - ie 200-400% markup (to allow for rent, wages, etc.), its about $100 - 200 max. (if you want to actually sell the rifle). In the 1500 cost range this equates to somewhere from 6 to 14% markup to cover "shop expenses".
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by jordy » 29 Jun 2014, 8:50 am

Hilux2003 wrote:And just to remind the readers, the margin on rifles in Aus. is not the same as other retail stuff - ie 200-400% markup (to allow for rent, wages, etc.), its about $100 - 200 max. (if you want to actually sell the rifle).


Why so bad for the rifles? Firearms tax importing them for the dealers?
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by Hilux2003 » 01 Jul 2014, 10:00 pm

Probably you best ask the importers - I cannot mention names but they set the $$$ due to the $ cost to the retailer.

Some want you to pay for 30K up front (in firearms) to just become a dealer, so if you can sustain the volume - you become a valued client, if not - your business goes under & the importer could not care less.

You then get the "internet problem" of comparing prices between countries - most do not know the "gov. cost" to a firearm, just to get if from 'there to here'.

Example: the original Glock17 cost, at the factory, some years back about $34 to make, then you have to move it to some other country & sell it, in Aus. This (with dealer, importer, gov.TAX) = manufactures' cost x 28 to x 30 in the shop.
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Re: Ammuntion bubble about to burst

Post by jordy » 02 Jul 2014, 12:12 pm

Hilux2003 wrote:Some want you to pay for 30K up front (in firearms) to just become a dealer


To stop people just trying to buy a few rifles on the cheap I guess for personal shooting, not retailing.
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