sandgroperbill wrote:Were they being supervised by someone licensed to possess that particular firearm? the law is the law regardless of your position.
Straight from the Vic Firearms Act 1996
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Possession
in relation to a firearm, includes—
(a) actual physical possession of the firearm; or
(b) custody or control of the firearm; or
(c) having and exercising access to the firearm, either solely or in common with others;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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carry
in relation to a firearm, includes the carriage of that firearm either as a whole or in parts
and either by one person or more than one person;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6 Offence for non-prohibited person to possess, carry or use a longarm without a licence[[WE KNOW its CAT B]]
(2) A non-prohibited person must not possess, carry or use a category B longarm that is registered
unless that person does so under and in accordance with a licence issued under this Part.
Penalty: 120 penalty units or 2 years imprisonment.VICPOL assist. Commissioner BELIEVED AND even exclaimed the belief to the others in the studio that the firearm was an AUTOMATIC = CatE!! so as far as he was aware he was allowing others the possession of a Cat E;
(5) A non-prohibited person must not possess, carry or use a category E longarm that is registered
unless that person does so under and in accordance with a licence issued under this Part.
Penalty: 600 penalty units or 7 years imprisonment.I never heard him caution those in the studio NOT to touch, hold, raise, carry or possess per the above definition, the
automatic longarm
but What is the status of a stolen / recovered / discovered / found firearm?? un-registered? is it registered in the name of the registrar? or the Ch.Commish?
6A Offence to possess, carry or use an unregistered longarm
(1) A non-prohibited person must not possess, carry or use a category A or category B longarm that is not registered.
Penalty: For a first offence, 120 penalty units or 2 years imprisonment;
For a second or subsequent offence, 1200 penalty units or 10 years imprisonment.
(3) A non-prohibited person must not possess, carry or use a category E longarm that is not registered.
Penalty: For a first offence, 600 penalty units or 7 years imprisonment;
For a second or subsequent offence, 1200 penalty units or 10 years imprisonment.Assuming that assclown in the studio is NON-prohibited, else those penalties ratchet up....
But there are licensing EXEMPTIONS you say? The only exemption relevant is this:
Any person who is of or over the age of 18 years who is receiving instruction in the use of a category A or category B firearm by or under the immediate supervision of the holder of a category A or category B longarm licence.
When carrying or using a longarm of the category specified in the supervisor's licence for the purposes of receiving the instruction at an approved shooting range.Remembering that the offences dont need to relate to actually using the firearm, but merely holding it......and there are zero exemptions for a CatE!
Strange the vision is now unobtainium......
I reckon this incident, along with the gunsafe-gate (the gottaway crims+safe) – should not be allowed to go quiet, not because I wish ill toward our peace officers, but if we're held to the highest standards of lawful compliance, so should those who 'enforce' upon us.
Is there not an obligation on those who witness the 'breaking' of a law; to report it??