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The philosophy of hunting down 'man eaters'

Post by Harper » 20 Aug 2014, 1:23 pm

Am I the only one that can't stand this kind of thing?

We go into a shark or crocodile's territory, someone is hurt, so we declare a vendetta against the animal and track it down and kill it. IMO this isn't hunting, or culling or anything resembling that. It's just an emotional backlash and petty vengeance.

Forgetting this instance specifically (just using it as an example) but people might have read this today.

An albino-headed crocodile that killed a man fishing on a Territory river has been described by an expert as a one-in-100-million rarity.

The distinctive 4.5m saltwater crocodile - known locally as Michael Jackson - was hunted down and killed a few hours after the 57-year-old fisherman was taken when he ventured into the water to retrieve a snagged fishing line on Monday evening.

Its head was pale while the rest of its body was normal in colouring.

Crocodile researcher Dr Adam Britton said while albino crocodile hatchlings were not uncommon, for an animal to survive into adulthood was highly unusual.

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"The fella leaning out to get his line untangled would have been right out over the surface of the water on the bank – this is where crocodiles secure their prey, that's what they’re all about," he said.


Obviously it's terrible for those involved and I'm not blaming anyone or suggesting it was due to anyone's negligence or anything along those lines. Nothing but sympathy for the family. Having said all that it's hardly the crocs fault either.

A crocs gotta eat, you go to his hunting ground, what comes next...

I'll put it in writing that if I'm ever unfortunate enough to end up as a similar case I definitely would not want the animal tracked down and killed.

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Post by Westy » 20 Aug 2014, 5:14 pm

I have no problems at all disposing of rouge animals!

I'll put it in writing that if I'm ever unfortunate enough to end up as a similar case I definitely would not want the animal tracked down and killed
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It might have to go around licking it ass to get the bad taste outta it mouth for a week and that would be punishment enough I'd reckon :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Lets be honest Croc's are only giant goanna's after all and we don't need them picking up bad habits do we? Anyway I'm off to order my new Belt and shoes
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Post by tom604 » 20 Aug 2014, 5:25 pm

They had to kill it to get his body back or what's left of it, for his family.

Something to bury vs dead croc is no contest, croc's dead every time, as it should be.

No body to recover different story :(
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Post by Harper » 20 Aug 2014, 9:20 pm

Westy wrote:I have no problems at all disposing of rouge animals!


Rogue? The croc wasn't stalking him in his apartment, the bloke was in the crocs river at the bank where they get their food...
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Aug 2014, 10:52 pm

I'm on the crocs side on this one; Enter his territory, expect to get eaten.

He just did what comes natural, same with sharks and snakes. Having said that the body needs to be retrieved for the family and autopsy, so the croc looses that race if he is overly protective of the victim. :(

The reality is we need them in the environment, or does the environment need them?
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Post by Westy » 21 Aug 2014, 6:31 am

Next you'll be telling me we need Boat people in our environment :!: :!: :!:

Maybe I'm way to Oldskool on these issues, sorry if I offend :| ;) :|
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Post by Harper » 21 Aug 2014, 10:01 am

Westy wrote:Next you'll be telling me we need Boat people in our environment :!: :!: :!:


Mate... What a ridiculous statement.

How on earth did you get from comparing an animal in it's native environment to illegal immigrants...

That's got absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand whatsoever.
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Post by Monty » 21 Aug 2014, 10:03 am

Lets leave the immigration subject alone guys.

People only ever get fired up over it and it's not relevant to the forum.
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Post by upup » 21 Aug 2014, 10:05 am

Oldbloke wrote:Having said that the body needs to be retrieved for the family and autopsy, so the croc looses that race if he is overly protective of the victim. :(


Yep, retrieving the body will always win out. Can't argue with that.

If not for that though I'd vote let him go.
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Post by MeccaOz » 21 Aug 2014, 10:51 am

Im the same Harper, but yeah I can see the body recovery angle.... But it's my understanding crocs stuff there kills underwater somewhere till it rots up some, so the body may not have been in the croc anyways... Like I tell people, the day I get chased across the road by shark is the day i'll start killing them. Similar theory on crocs, if they come into my house then i'll start fighting back.
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Post by wrenchman » 21 Aug 2014, 11:10 am

When I read the article it sounded like you have too many in the area.

We hunt gaters here but you wouldn't catch me going in a river to get a lure. We like to say it starts with a few cold beers and the words "hey, watch me do this".
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Post by Wheelbarrow » 21 Aug 2014, 11:15 am

wrenchman wrote:We like to say it starts with a few cold beers and the words "hey, watch me do this".


I think that's how all misadventures start :lol:
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Post by lole » 21 Aug 2014, 11:18 am

MeccaOz wrote:Like I tell people, the day I get chased across the road by shark is the day i'll start killing them. Similar theory on crocs, if they come into my house then i'll start fighting back.


I'm down with that.

There have been a couple over the years where a surfer has been taken by a shark and the families have said on the news 'our son wouldn't want us to go after the shark, leave it alone'.

Huge props for that, and having the presence of mind to say it immediately after the loss of a family member.
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Post by wrenchman » 22 Aug 2014, 1:18 am

In the south east we have a snake called the water moccasin that is scarier then the gaters.

But you guys have lots of nasty snakes.
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Post by Westy » 22 Aug 2014, 6:15 am

wrenchman wrote:in the south east we have a snake called the water moccasin that is scarryer then the gaters.
But you guys have lots of nasty snakes

Yep and most of them live in Canberra, there's a whole house dedicated to them!!!!! :lol: :) :lol:
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Post by Manimal » 22 Aug 2014, 10:27 am

wrenchman wrote:But you guys have lots of nasty snakes.


Aster covered Australia pretty well here :lol:

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Post by Lorgar » 22 Aug 2014, 10:37 am

That'll be the funnel-web spider you're thinking off.

Doesn't swim, but is covered with hairs that create a bubble around it when it goes in water and will last for a few hours in there.

When I was a kid at my folks place I'd fish a few out of the pool every summer.
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Post by Oldbloke » 22 Aug 2014, 9:35 pm

MeccaOz wrote:Im the same Harper, but yeah I can see the body recovery angle.... But it's my understanding crocs stuff there kills underwater somewhere till it rots up some, so the body may not have been in the croc anyways... Like I tell people, the day I get chased across the road by shark is the day i'll start killing them. Similar theory on crocs, if they come into my house then i'll start fighting back.

Im ok with self defence, I think even those buggers in parliament r ok with it too. Not sure about the greenies though! !
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Post by MeccaOz » 22 Aug 2014, 11:00 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
MeccaOz wrote:Im the same Harper, but yeah I can see the body recovery angle.... But it's my understanding crocs stuff there kills underwater somewhere till it rots up some, so the body may not have been in the croc anyways... Like I tell people, the day I get chased across the road by shark is the day i'll start killing them. Similar theory on crocs, if they come into my house then i'll start fighting back.

Im ok with self defence, I think even those buggers in parliament r ok with it too. Not sure about the greenies though! !


LOL a typical greenie would forfeit his/her whole family to a croc, sorry but I have very little respect for the green/red brigade.
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Post by tom604 » 23 Aug 2014, 9:31 am

Westy wrote:
wrenchman wrote:in the south east we have a snake called the water moccasin that is scarryer then the gaters.
But you guys have lots of nasty snakes

Yep and most of them live in Canberra, there's a whole house dedicated to them!!!!! :lol: :) :lol:


not nice!! very bad form comparing snakes to pollie's, now slugs on the other hand :lol:
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Post by Warrigul » 23 Aug 2014, 1:37 pm

This may stir it up but if it is not endangered then it is only an animal and I am quite happy to kill it once it has killed one of us.

I have nothing against keeping the numbers of potentially deadly animals down in proximity to humans either.

I respect snakes but not when they are around the house, I couldn't care less whether I had entered its environment or not.

Be it sharks, crocs, snakes, spiders, fire ants, european wasps, jack jumpers or zombie possum in numbers near humans then I am all in favour of thinning out them out a bit.
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Post by Westy » 23 Aug 2014, 5:11 pm

At last someone else with a few brains let me guess your 50 something right????I know I grew up in a different world ( mine had oxygen) to most but human lives are way ahead of some crappy animal!!!!!! :evil: :twisted: :evil: We now live in a world were animals have been humanised and we all have equal rights!!!

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Post by Warrigul » 23 Aug 2014, 8:29 pm

Mid forties but raised on a farm.

I got an extra bullet for every rabbit I shot when I was 10. We ate a lot of lamb and chicken and I watched every bit I ate being killed. We also killed two porkers and smoked and hung our own ham and bacon.

I am a firm believer that there is a place on earth for all god's animals: Right next to the mashed potatoes and peas.

Did you know that PETA are trying to describe fish as sea kittens in an attempt to make them appealing to the general population? Also that they are now starting to say that vegetables feel pain(what are they going to eat?)


I can respect a true VEGAN as standing by their beliefs but I cannot stomach those hypocrites amongst us who place animals over humans but still eat chicken and meat from abbatoirs and wear leather shoes.

Rant over, i'm gonna make a couple of smoked pigs belly sandwiches and wash it down with some fermented screaming vine baby juice(wine).
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Post by Westy » 23 Aug 2014, 8:56 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ha-Ha-Ha ^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by bigfellascott » 24 Aug 2014, 5:15 am

I say shoot the bastard, I'd like a pair of boots made out of him when their finished poking around in him and a jacket (he's big enough)! :D
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Post by 1290 » 24 Aug 2014, 9:29 am

Warrigul, I'm quite frankly offended by your views, we've come so far as a modern society and you STILL eat the earth's bounty with freakin mashed taters.... try a roast of onions, Brussell sprouts, and red peppers (along with the spuds), slowly roast with plenty of olive oil (dont be tight) and salt...... THAT will mix it up with the flavours for you :D

But yes, ultimately a bit of reason is percolating out of this thread. The reality of humans as the ultimate predator on this land has been forgotten, yes, we need to control the sharks, the crocs, yes and also the snakes and spiders TO KEEP THIS PLACE SAFE FOR US....

The crocs in the NT must be controlled, I dont think its acceptable to say that there are places where we cant go, that concept smack of the Wildlands project, ya herd of that? all it is, is the greentard vegan brainless gang's utopian wet dream, I shall elucidate for you;

Back before the birth of modern environmentalism or envirosocialism (read quasi-communism from the literal ground up) before the anti-human-activity Rio earth summit of 92, there was a body of work around the various concepts that 'they' considered necessary to save the globe - read control every aspect of our lives and send our quality of lives back several generations. It was decided that we humans had to be removed from 'nature' to restore the (this words sends shivers down my spine when spoken) biodiversity.....

To cut a long story short, there has been significant energy expended in seeking to remove humans from vast swathes of the earth, (check out the USA wildlands map), to reintroduce species to where people would normally be found, the yanks on here will be well aware of the programs to bring back the mountain lion, wolves etc. Google wildlands project and see that these lunatics want to create small localised concentrated areas for the 'humans' and the rest as mostly no-go zones for us to allow the regeneration and reinroduction of the 'biodiversity'.

When it comes to implementing these enviro-social controls, dont think you're immune in the local sense - the UN as the policy driving force specifically targets local government as the closest to the ground to implement these policies, have a look at your local planning scheme and you'll find that biodiversity has well and truly permeated your local planning laws. example, requirement to plant indigenous / native species of plant under a planning permit... yep, returning the biodiversity of pre-human times...one planning permit at a time.

No, its not fiction, I didnt just dream this up, so yes, control the Crocs, the snakes, the spiders, wear your leather jacket and real fur coat, throw away your fake croc skin boot, take the earth back, WE are in charge around here F#$% the enviro-socialists.
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Post by Westy » 24 Aug 2014, 11:47 am

Biodiversity.....The New "West Dictionary" describes this as " A simple way to control the average Mug Punter into believing everything that is shovelled down his or her throat as the unwritten gospel while at the same time empowering the top echelons of the unscrupulous Environmental movements to generating as much of the Tax payers Hard Earned $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
for their lazy self-righteous selves."

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Post by wrenchman » 25 Aug 2014, 6:01 am

if they wanted biodiversity they would hunt them larg crocs they eat there young and are territorial
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Post by Harper » 25 Aug 2014, 12:01 pm

Warrigul wrote:This may stir it up but if it is not endangered then it is only an animal and I am quite happy to kill it once it has killed one of us.


We're only animals. By that logic we should be quite happy for them to kill us as we've killed tonnes of them. Fair's fair.

People are happy to animals all day long, but when an animal kills a person it's this huge shock like the world has gone topsy-turvy. Makes no sense at all. I know people like to think we're special and above everything else but it's bulls**t.

I got no problems killing a croc for food, defending yourself, protecting livestock or anything like that. Going after things in situations like this though is nothing but spite.

If I go into a bear cave I expect to get eaten by a fkn bear. I don't expect the bear to be friendly then get shocked and offended and want to punish it when it tries to kill me.
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Post by Westy » 25 Aug 2014, 5:44 pm

Well good for you. We all know what you think, even if it's a little twisted!

Are there many Bears in the N.T.?

Tell me are you a troll looking for a rise?
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