Quote from George Orwell

[cavok]

Sorry mate, but If you think we live in a democracy now, your deluding yourself. As far as Im concerned Libs and Labor are the same party with the same Oligarchs running them. They just play the game every 4 years. Remember when Pauline was getting far too much attention, old Johnny pulled out all stops and played the game like a dog to get her out of politics.

WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY right here, right now. WE, you me and everyone else can vote, as long as the candidate is on the ballot paper you can vote for him or her, or make another selection. Liberal and Labor are not the same, one is a conservative party the other socialist. The person who actually engineered the demise of Ms Hanson was Tony Abbott. She broke some law regarding the registration or other of her party, she paid the price. The Democrats are gone, lots of other people and parties to vote for and this is in both houses. From memory the last senate paper had some sixty names on it or more, that is Democracy. Also the elections are every 3 years for federal politics.

[1290]

Ha HA HA democracy.... what a pipe dream... it ends at the ballot box when you drop the slip of toilet paper into the box....
Libs and Labs both have there most glorious of (prospective) leaders indoctrinated in the ways of the globalist elite at Oxford (Rhodes scholarship system) then they are returned here to lead the sheeple... baaaaahhhhhh baaaaahhhhhh.

Mecca, there's no better way to describe it than an oligarchy, here the definition for all to make your minds up;

oligarchy [ol-i-gahr-kee] Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin noun, plural oligarchies.
1.a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2.a state or organization so ruled.
3.the persons or class so ruling.

How many time has Abbott or indeed Gizzard state that THEY decide or their Caucus or cabinet decided SOMETHING....

[MeccaOz]

Great Minds

[cavok]

I like a great deal of what you post, on this topic of Democracy I shall merely disagree with you. Keep up the good information and issues.

[cavok]

Ha HA HA democracy.... what a pipe dream... it ends at the ballot box when you drop the slip of toilet paper into the box....
Libs and Labs both have there most glorious of (prospective) leaders indoctrinated in the ways of the globalist elite at Oxford (Rhodes scholarship system) then they are returned here to lead the sheeple... baaaaahhhhhh baaaaahhhhhh.

Mecca, there's no better way to describe it than an oligarchy, here the definition for all to make your minds up;

oligarchy [ol-i-gahr-kee] Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin noun, plural oligarchies.
1.a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2.a state or organization so ruled.
3.the persons or class so ruling.

How many time has Abbott or indeed Gizzard state that THEY decide or their Caucus or cabinet decided SOMETHING....

I cite:
Australian Democracy:
" Definition
According to The Australian Oxford Dictionary, the term democracy refers to 'government by the whole population, usually through elected representatives; nation so governed or classless and tolerant society' (p284). This term is derived from the Greek word 'dēmokratia' meaning 'rule of the people'. Democracy is specified as:
1) The idea that all people in a country have identical rights.
2) A political system of social organisation where a representative and accountable government is elected and given the responsibility of ensuring the maintenance of law and order.
The two main principles of democracy includes: freedom and equality. For all citizens, equality under the law is a fundamental right. Citizens should also be able to enjoy freedom. Democracy is a philosophy of government, not a form of government. A quote by the famous Greek philosopher Aristotle states "In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme".

[WesleySnipes]

"A quote by the famous Greek philosopher Aristotle states "In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme". "

Try this one, "Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty." - Plato

Or perhaps "Democracy is the road to socialism" - Marx

Political quotes from great minds are a dime a dozen, but which ones seem more true when you look at the history of democracy? There's a reason democracy in Greece failed, and there's also a reason why every other democracy since has failed with it. Because the the poor DON'T have any power over the rich, and complete freedom is rare, and usually taken in order to form a democracy.

[cavok]

I totally give up, am I allowed to say this forum is a Democracy, the voice of the many? Everybody wants their version of a democracy, next thing you know we will rise up in anarchy? Then who rules supreme, anarchy can only exist for so long. Wonder if the poor or the many want democracy of ? Next quote please. To convince some people what we have is a democracy is proving most difficult, what type of government do some here think we have, really have, not their versions of "what they think"

[MeccaOz]

I totally give up, am I allowed to say this forum is a Democracy, the voice of the many? Everybody wants their version of a democracy, next thing you know we will rise up in anarchy? Then who rules supreme, anarchy can only exist for so long. Wonder if the poor or the many want democracy of ? Next quote please. To convince some people what we have is a democracy is proving most difficult, what type of government do some here think we have, really have, not their versions of "what they think"

LOL, how on earth can you have a democracy HONESTLY, when you have a 2 party system ?

[cavok]

I am pleased I live in an democracy, for God help us if those that wish the WEST harm every decide they are in charge, that will then NOT be a democracy. Some despots names come to hand, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, some countries that have NO democracy come to mind, Iran, Syria, North Korea. Russia and China are a worry, not certain which state is the worst. Lack of democracy possibly means you can be taken out and go missing, never to see the light of day.

[1290]

We need more emiticons....facepalm & one with a bowed head slowly shaking left to right in despair...(also the vertically reciprocating closed hand for other situations)

Cavok, where is it you live? Couldnt be Australia... are there buttercups growing in the field, being grazed by unicorns as leprechauns gather the gold at the end of the rainbow..?? aaah f*** it I give up....

[MeccaOz]

We dont even have a bill of rights to protect our constitutional rights in Australia mate ... If you bring up YOUR constitutional rights in court they will laugh at you. Remember when little Johnny laughed at our constitution and said its not worth the paper it's printed on anymore ( not in those words, but to that effect ). If you want to see something scary check out this link, and the copy written logo of this particular company.

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... CIK=805157

That is traded on the US Stock Exchange mate. As for me not being patriotic ... I LOVE MY COUNTRY, But I f***ing HATE our politicians.

[cavok]

We need more emiticons....facepalm & one with a bowed head slowly shaking left to right in despair...(also the vertically reciprocating closed hand for other situations)

Cavok, where is it you live? Couldnt be Australia... are there buttercups growing in the field, being grazed by unicorns as leprechauns gather the gold at the end of the rainbow..?? aaah f*** it I give up....

I could not resist to responding, love this post. I live in the best country in the Fu..ing country in the world, yes there are buttercups growing in abundance in all fields, unicorns are more difficult to locate, as are leprechauns. The pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is yet to be claimed. My facial features are neutral, my right hand behind my back, Mexican carry, great. There is no despair, hope eternal, welcome to Victoria.

[Westy]

Sorry mate, but If you think we live in a democracy now, your deluding yourself. As far as Im concerned Libs and Labor are the same party with the same Oligarchs running them. They just play the game every 4 years. Remember when Pauline was getting far too much attention, old Johnny pulled out all stops and played the game like a dog to get her out of politics.

And who pulled the trigger on her and had her placed in Jail????

1 Anthony Abbot , he was Johnny Arthurs Hench man in that little fiasco

[cavok]

Thank you dear Sir, please note, I will say this only 1 time, our federal elections are held every 3 ***** years not 4. Pauline Hanson was in breach of the law, forget who went after her, she paid the price for her indiscretion. Mr Howard was the leader of the Liberals, he deserves our respect as does Mr Whitlam.

[MeccaOz]

And who pulled the trigger on her and had her placed in Jail????

1 Anthony Abbot , he was Johnny Arthurs Hench man in that little fiasco

[Westy]

Thank you dear Sir, please note, I will say this only 1 time, our federal elections are held every 3 ***** years not 4. Pauline Hanson was in breach of the law, forget who went after her, she paid the price for her indiscretion. Mr Howard was the leader of the Liberals, he deserves our respect as does Mr Whitlam.

R U Still banging on about this????? Serious you need to get out a bit more even travel overseas and see what the real world looks like!!!!! Yep I took the Bait.

!!!!! And as for every 3 years your dead wrong it is at the prime ministers discretion and can go out as far as 4 YEARS!!!!!