Victorian Elections

[MeccaOz]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victo ... 1grle.html

New parties in 2014 include: Animal Justice Party, Australian Cyclists Party, Liberal Democratic Party, Palmer United Party, People Power Victoria – No Smart Meters, Rise Up Australia Party, Shooters and Fishers Party Victoria, Voice for the West, Voluntary Euthanasia Party and Vote 1 Local Jobs.

The two best parties I can see their for gun rights are
1) Shooters and Fishers Party Victoria
2) Liberal Democratic Party

[cavok]

Great to have so many parties, however Labor will win, unfortunately, the Liberals are annoying everyone with an 8 Billion dollar tunnel, (which we all want it costs way to much and I short) Stupid Labor will romp it in, forget what few votes shooters and fishers party pick up, I have never heard of them down here, I have politely asked, it seems the voters need to chase them, liberal democrats will win a few votes. ITS Labor that need to loose, Mr Andrews is an absolute twit who under better times would not even be leader, but they have no-one else. What a sad day for the Liberals, Mr Napthine has no charisma, no anything, looks like a sad day when labor wins because the Liberal are annoying the electorate and cannot articulate their policies.

[MeccaOz]

We got Rick Mazza in, in WA.. BLOODY LEGEND. He tries hard and gets more done than anyone who has tried previous to him. Ive heard a fair bit of David Leyonhjelm from the Liberal Democrats lately, gotta say he impresses the hell outta me, but alot people are scared of a free Australia it seems ...

[North East]

If the Greens come up with a good agenda I'm voting for them….cos I can.

[MeccaOz]

If the Greens come up with a good agenda I'm voting for them….cos I can.

LMAO, You s**t stirrer

[1290]

It looks like the Libs have f***ed over enough people this term to lose the election, so unfortunately we might be heading into another socialist jobs for the mates/union era (not that the libs are innocent).....Aussies are so damn stupid, they get caught up in the annual day of human depravity worship (Melbourne Cup day) drugs, booze gambling... Heck we even take 2 days off work for it, Government sanctioned.... all the while 'forgetting' about the past failings of the political parties. North-south... desal...."there will be no toll road under a government I lead"....Libs arent cleanskins either.

I normally vote for the libs, only to register a vote against the proclaimed socialist party of Australia(yes, refer ALP constitution) .... but this time I give up. On my ballot paper I'll write a message to them - maybe "Stop screwing the people or the people will screw you" or perhaps "The revolution is nigh*".

*nigh, about when the people wake up from their slumber, refer EA Blair,;

Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with
neighbours, films, football, beer, and above all, gambling, filled up the horizon of
their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.

E.A.Blair, Nineteen eighty four, published 1949.

Every article in the 'media', every publicised activity, AFL matches, Grand finals, Melbourne cup, bottle shops on every corner, Tab pokies, the drug problem even though Billions is spent combating it apart from drugs being 'illegal' but a persistent problem, death bonds (aka housing mortgages) requiring continuous slave like work to keep a roof over the families head...... lead me to think Orwell was 'in' on the plan to keep humanity captive, while the ruling class are free to wreak havoc.

That was my heavy thinking for the day... its all downhill from here

[whert]

The two best parties I can see their for gun rights are
1) Shooters and Fishers Party Victoria
2) Liberal Democratic Party

That's top of my list.

[1290]

1290 reporting live from the vic PUP launch..... go Clivo!

Reports to follow..........

[scrolllock]

That's top of my list.

Top is Shooters and Fishers for me of course.

Just gotta get my head around the rest of the parties for who gets prioritized next still.

[1290]

So I attended the Palmer United Party Victorian launch....on the invitation of a PUP member - It was very interesting to listen to big Clive, he had a lot to say about not only his upbringing in Vic, but more importantly what the issues are with the mainstream parties Libs and Labs, and how these career politicians, are just that; CAREER pollies, and not motivated to act for the constituents but the party/partyline, which yes we did kind of know... Many say ill of Clive, but he has stood up to defy and oppose the other parties....those so entrenched in our political thinking that many could not bear to vote for anyone else, all the 'lifer' liberal or labor voters... they are a cancer to our future, I dont know if PUP is the cure, but at least they are an alternative that smells a great deal more like democracy!

He introduced the PUP candidates, each had their turn at delivering their speech, described themselves, their background and objectives in running. All being for the upper house (legislative Council) aiming to attain the balance of power....damn I hope its PUP and not the greentards if there are senate seats to be had....

Current upper house numbers are as follows;

LIBS - 43.0%fpv - 18 seats > 21 = control
NATS - 0.11%fpv - 3 seats >
LABS - 35.4%fpv - 16 seats
GRNS - 12.0%fpv - 3 seats

So the LIBS/NATS have 21 of 40 LC seats, should they lose a couple, I cant see them picking any up, hopefully they go the way of PUP and the the Reds or the watermelons....

Current Lower house

LIBS - 38.0%fpv - 35 seats >45 = control
NATS - 6.8%fpv - 10 seats >
LABS - 36.3%fpv - 43 seats
GRNS - 11.2%fpv - 0 seats

Lets hope the tards stay at zero....but realistically, you can never underestimate the stupidity of your fellow citizens....

As far as the result of the upcoming election, I havent decided yet which would be worse for Victoria, another Lib term or the others back in....I dont think we can afford another Lab government...

[MeccaOz]

Well I personally wont vote for him ( PUP ), simply because of his stance on the firearms issue. He doesn't like them in civilian hands. As for the entrenched lib / lab voters being a cancer .. YOU ARE DEAD ON !! All they seem to do is lead us around in circles like trained guinea pigs ... LOL sorry guy's but thats how I feel. Get some 3rd parties in the mix in a big way, watch the libs and labs actually do something positive then.

[cavok]

As this is a shooting forum, the above two post cast aspersions onto Liberal and Labor voter, calling them a cancer, NOT happy with that. I am a died in the wool right wing Liberal and to hell with those on the left and or Greens. I for one do not support the Clive Palmer (I have money follow me) party. He changes his tune to suit the moment he has. Bring back the Democrats or Pauline Hanson, at least everyone one knew what they stood for, or at least longer than Clive Palmer. Democracy is being able to choose who to vote for. Don't throw stones at the Liberal and or their voters, we have a voice, we said what we want you said what you want, bring on the election. Let the voting begin.

[Chronos]

So I attended the Palmer United Party Victorian launch....on the invitation of a PUP member - It was very interesting to listen to big Clive, he had a lot to say about not only his upbringing in Vic, but more importantly what the issues are with the mainstream parties Libs and Labs, and how these career politicians, are just that; CAREER pollies, and not motivated to act for the constituents but the party/partyline, which yes we did kind of know... Many say ill of Clive, but he has stood up to defy and oppose the other parties....those so entrenched in our political thinking that many could not bear to vote for anyone else, all the 'lifer' liberal or labor voters... they are a cancer to our future, I dont know if PUP is the cure, but at least they are an alternative that smells a great deal more like democracy!

He introduced the PUP candidates, each had their turn at delivering their speech, described themselves, their background and objectives in running. All being for the upper house (legislative Council) aiming to attain the balance of power....damn I hope its PUP and not the greentards if there are senate seats to be had....

Current upper house numbers are as follows;

LIBS - 43.0%fpv - 18 seats > 21 = control
NATS - 0.11%fpv - 3 seats >
LABS - 35.4%fpv - 16 seats
GRNS - 12.0%fpv - 3 seats

So the LIBS/NATS have 21 of 40 LC seats, should they lose a couple, I cant see them picking any up, hopefully they go the way of PUP and the the Reds or the watermelons....

Current Lower house

LIBS - 38.0%fpv - 35 seats >45 = control
NATS - 6.8%fpv - 10 seats >
LABS - 36.3%fpv - 43 seats
GRNS - 11.2%fpv - 0 seats

Lets hope the tards stay at zero....but realistically, you can never underestimate the stupidity of your fellow citizens....

As far as the result of the upcoming election, I havent decided yet which would be worse for Victoria, another Lib term or the others back in....I dont think we can afford another Lab government...

http://www.sportingshootermag.com.au/news/clive-palmer-anti-guns

it seems a vote for PUP is a vote against firearms ownership

Chronos

[1290]

"Note agreeing on guns" doesnt exactly translate to the PUP wanting to take the guns away..... maybe clive doesnt like blackpowder. ...
Until they have a Firearm policy that states something contrary to lawful ownership or representing tougher regulation...... means nothing. Sorry, even shooting site propagandise......if it means an opportunity to send votes to 'another party'.....

[MeccaOz]

"Note agreeing on guns" doesnt exactly translate to the PUP wanting to take the guns away..... maybe clive doesnt like blackpowder. ...
Until they have a Firearm policy that states something contrary to lawful ownership or representing tougher regulation...... means nothing. Sorry, even shooting site propagandise......if it means an opportunity to send votes to 'another party'.....

On that point, you have me 1290. I myself am a shooters party member, BUT I also follow the LDP very closely. Even if we get some of these dyed in wool lib / lab voters to start mixing it up and start to abolish the 2 party system, we may actually get back to being a democracy in a few generations instead of the current prime minister being able to say "I have a mandate" to do whatever the f*** it likes, and the opposition saying "Oh I have to agree, because it's not about doing whats right, but because I want to play prime minister next time".

[North East]

Not everyone who has a firearm licence votes for the Liberal tossers….get used to it.

[MeccaOz]

Not everyone who has a firearm licence votes for the Liberal tossers….get used to it.

LOL it was they who took them in 96/97 ... Even if the lab's said they would back them.

[North East]

Not everyone who has a firearm licence votes for the Liberal tossers….get used to it.

Pauline Hanson….freaking fantasy land….the southern states will stop that.

[Supporter]

Democracy is being able to choose who to vote for. Don't throw stones at the Liberal and or their voters, we have a voice, we said what we want you said what you want, bring on the election.

Said after you bagged the s**t out of Labour in your previous post.

Pot meet kettle.

[cavok]

:lol:

Said after you bagged the s**t out of Labour in your previous post.

Pot meet kettle.

Yes I bagged Labor in a previous post, I was only getting the balance right, they bagged us, we bagged them = time.

[Norton]

Supporter,

Didn't you know?

When it's my opinion it's a democracy and I'll do what I want!

When it's someone elses opinion they're wrong.

Democracy!

[Supporter]

Yes I bagged Labor in a previous post, I was only getting the balance right, they bagged us, we bagged them = time.

So a case of the pot calling the kettle black + childish arguments.

Very persuasive.

[cavok]

IF the ABC can have equal time I cannot see why not here. My arguments are not childish, you can see them anyway you like. Not trying to be persuasive, just expressing a point of view. The same as your post? I wonder how others will see that.

[Westy]

I agree with Cavok !!!!!!

I don't vote any which way in particular as I am a

http://youtu.be/Uvn-PEHuv9w

[Utcherd]

I don't believe the Sex Pistols are a registered political party in Victoria though

[MeccaOz]

I agree with Cavok !!!!!!

I don't vote any which way in particular as I am a

http://youtu.be/Uvn-PEHuv9w

HAHAHAHA Love it, there playing my song

[1290]

I don't believe the Sex Pistols are a registered political party in Victoria though

yes they are.. at least the sex party is...and at the last Vic election, in the upper house the SEX party scored 17 TIMES (that seventeen times) the number of first preference votes that the NATIONALS scored.....and more than the country alliance.... head scratching time there I think.

[Westy]

I don't believe the Sex Pistols are a registered political party in Victoria though

yes they are.. at least the sex party is...and at the last Vic election, in the upper house the SEX party scored 17 TIMES (that seventeen times) the number of first preference votes that the NATIONALS scored.....and more than the country alliance.... head scratching time there I think.

Unless there handing out little blue pills I won't be voting for them!!!!

they scored, I like what you did there!!!!

[North East]

I'm voting…

1. Australian Sex Party
2. The Australian Greens
3. The Basics Rock'n'Roll Party

….and I'm not joking, should be a good laugh.

[Arth]

Maybe shooters & fishing and the sex party should combine.

Best party ever right?!