Lambie rejects call for gun law changes

[Vati]

So Lambie claims she's for out defence force, not for our right to defend ourselves though looking at this.

Towing the anti line for them here.

Jacqui Lambie says a crossbench Senate colleague has picked the wrong time and arguments to reopen debate about Australia's gun laws.

Liberal Democratic senator David Leyonhjelm on Thursday renewed his calls for gun controls to be relaxed, saying this week's siege in a Sydney cafe might not have happened if patrons had been allowed concealed weapons.

Senator Lambie said she absolutely would not support moves to weaken gun laws.

"The less weapons we have out on the streets in Australia the better off we will be now and well into the future," she told ABC television on Friday.

She thought Senator Leyonhjelm had mistimed his comments, saying it was not "a good talking point for this week" and debate could wait until after Christmas at least.

The independent senator believed a further crackdown on illegal weapons should happen in the wake of the siege.

Senator Leyonhjelm later tweeted: "When you are opposed by both Jacqui Lambie and John Howard, you must be doing something right."

Mr Howard, who put in place new gun control laws after the Port Arthur massacre, said the LDP senator's analysis of the situation was "simplistic and flawed".

© AAP 2014

[cavok]

Lambie is a twit who should not be allowed to leave her room. Locked in her room till she gets some common sense and begins acting as a senator, listens to reason and begins putting the wishes of her country before playing tough.

She knows nothing of gun laws or that the weapon used in Martin place was held by an unlicensed shooter, with an illegal firearm.

It should be pointed out to Lambie that crooks or evil people will always get their hands on illegal weapons from overseas or other places, hence this has nothing to do with shooters in Australia who follow the law and are responsible firearm owners.

Howard made that mistake years ago, just can't stop elected officials from being badly advised by people who have other agendas, and we pay the price.

[Westy]

This women is a stupid rambling Bitch that only a Tasmanian voter could have elected into the corridors of power!

Not unlike Pauline Hanson, she is only about one thing and it isn't what's good for the country!

They only want what's good for themselves ,as I said stupid loud mouth Bitches and as we all know the media in Australia love this sort of thing to promote their hunger for sensationalism!

[Jack V]

Most of these kind are being told what to do by outside influences . When we shut down all the foreign interference in our country many problems and idiots will go away .

[Vati]

So Lambie claims she's for out defence force, not for our right to defend ourselves though looking at this.

She's for her Defence force disability payment IMO.

Nothing more.

[Korkt]

That's the vibe she gives.

She's for the defence force as long as it's lining her pockets and she can have a yell from her soap box.

Everyone I know who has served with the ADF feels the same, she's a pork chop. No time for her.

[Norton]

Not unlike Pauline Hanson, she is only about one thing and it isn't what's good for the country!

How about her huff and puff saying she'd vote against the government on everything until she got her way.

Really earning your tax-payer paid salary there with your childish tantrum, Lambie.

Thumbs down.

[cavok]

Lambie is for Lambie, the more the press speak about her and her stands, the more attention the idiot gets, the more she will continue. Lambie is not throwing a tantrum, she is to stupid. Sorry to say that about nay senator, Lambie is a disgrace.

[Westy]

Well said Cavok now your on the right track

[Baldrick314]

She's one to talk about poor timing for making comments when just the other week she interrupted Phil Hughes' minute of silence to force a vote on her bloody agenda. Sick of hearing about this idiot

[anthillinside]

Must be something in the water down there.
M. B. he who must not be named.
Bob Brown.
Jacqui Lambie.
Who or what next?

[cavok]

So now we know what the issue is with this twit. She failed in her attempt, she is bitter now and takes it out on the populous.

"Outspoken senator Jacqui Lambie has revealed she attempted suicide in 2009 as she struggled with unemployment and an addiction to painkillers.
In a candid interview with The Australian Women's Weekly, the 43-year-old Tasmanian politician opened up about being a single mother and how she suffered a back injury while serving in the army, which sparked drug dependence.
"I never took morphine," Lambie says in the January issue of the magazine."
"It was drugs they use to treat schizophrenia, but it messes with the chemicals in your brain."
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/1 ... lambie-ope ns-up-about-dark-days#WbIQ7gK1ddgbGPMV.99

I'm certain no-one will be rushing out to get a copy of that magazine, hope she has better luck next time, Lol.

[Title_II]

Here is me on the steps of the Capitol Building of The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania at a rally to remind my representatives of the importance of our rights, and the consequences of infringing them.

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[anthillinside]

Outspoken senator Jacqui Lambie has revealed she attempted suicide in 2009 as she struggled with unemployment and an addiction to painkillers.

I guess that means she wouldn't get a gun license. can't trust her with a firearm.

So how the hell can we trust her to make rational decisions that affect US!

[nords]

Here is me on the steps of the Capitol Building of The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania at a rally to remind my representatives of the importance of our rights, and the consequences of infringing them.

You'd have a SWAT team on you if you did that here.

[RDobber]

So how the hell can we trust her to make rational decisions that affect US!

Hopefully her latest shenanigans with voting no on everything and calling for people to turn their backs on ANZAC day has brought her nonsense into the spotlight for enough people and the next election will be the end of her.

[cavok]

Unfortunately Lambie is here for 5 more years. Mr. Abbott if he was in a stronger position would love to call a double dissolution, all the prerequisites have been met, however he is not popular at the moment which means no double dissolution, hence Lambie stays, sad days ahead.

Lambie will grab the headlines however she can, and no point mentioning her again as she has those 5 years to run. I've had the twit but the media want a story she will provide ammunition, little else to say about her.

[Chronos]

Some of us tried to warn that that the PUP candidates refused to state their firearms policy prior to the election but of course that might have prevented some short sighted shooters thought voting for the trendy party was more important than voting for the devil you know.

Chronos

[Title_II]

Here is me on the steps of the Capitol Building of The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania at a rally to remind my representatives of the importance of our rights, and the consequences of infringing them.

You'd have a SWAT team on you if you did that here.

That would be a pretty big SWAT team to respond to 3,000 people

We even get about 60 legislators all lined up waiting to take turns to speak to us. A few years ago Wayne LaPierre (CEO of the NRA) came to speak.

Then we go inside to chase the bad legislators around and say Hi to the good ones that couldn't make it.

[nords]

That would be a pretty big SWAT team to respond to 3,000 people

Not for the rally, for you having the rifle slung over your bag.

That would make you a criminal here walking around like that.

Great you guys have so much support there. Nothing like that here.

[sha]

Lambie will grab the headlines however she can, and no point mentioning her again as she has those 5 years to run.

Do Not Feed The Troll.

Best advice I can think of on Lambie for the next 5 years.

[Hatter]

We even get about 60 legislators all lined up waiting to take turns to speak to us.

All in support, or some arguments against as well?

[mahna]

Have we ever had a pro-gun rally here in Aus?

Anyone recall?

[cavok]

Have we ever had a pro-gun rally here in Aus?

Anyone recall?

Not that I recall, unfortunately when little Johnny Howard put in place the gun buyback thousands of us marched in the streets of Melbourne to protest.

As to a pro-gun rally if that is what you are thinking in various states, in cites great and small, what an absolutely brilliant idea.

[Title_II]

That would be a pretty big SWAT team to respond to 3,000 people

Not for the rally, for you having the rifle slung over your bag.

That would make you a criminal here walking around like that.

Great you guys have so much support there. Nothing like that here.

There were around 3000 armed people at the rally, and plenty of rifles. Not all were slung over backs, I try to keep it less confrontational. It could have been a little more or less, I've been going to 5 years and they range from hundreds to nearly 10,000. This one was middle of the road and I think 3K.

[1290]

That would be a pretty big SWAT team to respond to 3,000 people

Not for the rally, for you having the rifle slung over your bag.

That would make you a criminal here walking around like that.

Great you guys have so much support there. Nothing like that here.

Not really.... our longarm licences are for the carriage and use..... if walking down the public street, say heading to your Saturday rifle comp, with a rifle slung, yes, you would have 6 or 8 marked and unmarked police cars surrounding you in no time, chopper overhead, streets cordoned off, pistols drawn but you wouldnt be charged with firearm offences unless you discharged the rifle in a populous place or it was loaded or you were under the influence of drink or drug.

You'll be probably thrown to the ground, once you put the rifle down, handcuffed thrown in the back of the divi van, then they'll spend some time thumbing through their little book looking for something that sounds appropriate(to them), like the old disturbing the peace type charge or however it goes....

this is the result of not exercising a right(or privilege)... and eventually you lose it. How many old timers tell you how 'back in the day' they'd take the bus or train or bike, rifle slung to cadets.....

I had an email exchange with the Railway authority about carrying a rifle on the train, eventually they stopped communicating when their best reason for 'prohibiting' carriage was the classification of a rifle as a dangerous good under the DG legislation..... of course the law makes no reference as is in no way applicable to firearms....

[Westy]

That would be a pretty big SWAT team to respond to 3,000 people

Yep it's called the ADF

[trekin]

ADF can't be used against citizens, which is why Keating did a deal with the Indo's back when.

[1290]

ADF can't be used against citizens, which is why Keating did a deal with the Indo's back when.

deal? do tell.....

& I thought it was either very interesting or very concerning when during the 'sydney siege' the media kept referring to the arming and how they might be 'called in' to take over.... because one single bloke, as deranged as he was, was hold a number of hostages with a shotty ??? Just imagine if it was a 'real' terrorist attack.

Just another example of the failure of our 'leaders'

Honestly, I dont know how many active soldiers we have in reserve, 10 or 20 or 30,000, but I'm sure in a Tomorrow, when the war began scenario......
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We're f _ _ _ _ d

....and a 1%, 5% or even 20% pay rise wont help us.

[sbd3927]

So how would we go, with an organised group taking public transport to Little River, with firearms visibly in hand, all ammunition to be PROVIDED at the range, yet firearms clearly displayed during travel to a legitimate destination for a currently legal purpose. With full notification to the media and the boys in blue, (not being idiots, we would also have personal voice and video recording with some concealed as bystanders).
Sounds like a good media opportunity. I'd consider joining the ssaa just to participate and make the point!

Even looking within the ranks of the anti firearm lobby, I doubt you could find anyone more paranoid than licensed shooters about both firearm safety and the perception that we handle firearms safely.

Given the recent ground gained by the Shooters Party members in Victoria, I am wondering if our dog's day has arrived and it's time to stand up and be counted. Do we just whine about it and stand on the sidelines or actually do something. I am growing tired of living in an Australia of ever eroding rights. It's not the country I was born in 45 years ago. I've been to countries like England and Russia {20 years ago, and I am concerned we are becoming worse than they were at that point in time.}