Future of VICPOL

[anthillinside]

I just heard on the news that Ken Lay has resigned.

A bit sudden, but there was probably some scores to settle.

I wonder who we'll get now and what direction the ship will turn?

[veep]

No one wants to take the reigns either looks like, tough act to follow apparently and not many keen to try the shoes on.

6 month vacancy expected apparently.

[cavok]

You are saying that Christine Nixon was not a hard act to follow.
I mean the day she was need the most she was having her hair done and had a few hours with someone writing her book of her time in the force. That was very important on that hot windy day, as was dinner with friends.

[1290]

Direction of the ship shouldn't be determined by the one person at the top....their role is to managing staff and be the states head peace keeper...not creating or interpreting law...

[veep]

You are saying that Christine Nixon was not a hard act to follow.

I'm just saying apparently no one wants it.

[whert]

Direction of the ship shouldn't be determined by the one person at the top....their role is to managing staff and be the states head peace keeper...not creating or interpreting law...

Thinking the same.

What's the fuss on Ken Lay leaving?

He do something special?

[scrolllock]

He do something special?

I know he got a speeding ticket during a Christmas road toll campaign

[cavok]

Not hard to receive a speeding ticket, cameras everywhere, 2 klm over, bingo. Not a big deal.

[sbd3927]

Not hard to receive a speeding ticket, cameras everywhere, 2 klm over, bingo. Not a big deal.

Wouldn't it be great to sneak gps monitors onto all the top ranks, politicians included, then send them the bill for the previous months worth of speeding infringements.
It is totally impossible to not speed in Victoria, even setting cruise control under the limit, and paying attention to the road (although your foots further from the brake pedal) sees you exceeding on downhill stretches. It's noticeably more dangerous on the roads in Vic with the number of people obsessing over their speedo's and not watching the road. Most locals around here are now travelling 10k under, which still leads to tailgaters and unsafe overtaking.
Last week there was a traffic jam on Penninsula link, at the speed distance cameras sections, because drivers were slowing to 90 or 80kmh, which rippled back up the freeway to 30kmh

It just needs a few reports like "Oh i'm sorry I hit your kid, but my speedo was reading 45kmh if that makes you feel better." In the two secs it takes to take eyes off road, focus and read an analog speedometer, and return to awareness off the road, that 45kmh car travels 25 metres, double the circulated increase in stopping distance from 50 to 55.

[anthillinside]

Direction of the ship shouldn't be determined by the one person at the top....their role is to managing staff and be the states head peace keeper...not creating or interpreting law...

Thinking the same.

What's the fuss on Ken Lay leaving?

He do something special?

No he didn't and thats the point
Not "putting his stamp on the job"
Not much of a media hound
Basicly not "Directing the ship"
I'm not a fan of his but not a detractor either and you could say he's doing nothing, depends on how you see the force.
Just his resignaion seems a bit sudden.

PS: Speed cameras are run by Vic roads and govt. legislation, police have input but are not the main offenders. (Tax$)

[1290]

Fixed cameras, the ones at damn near every metro signalised interestion, to guarantee a continuous income stream directly back to base.... I mean keep the streets safe, of course. Those are the modern highway robbers.....are free of politz involvement I believe, but I'm not sure who would represent the crown if you took a ticket to the madgies....VicRoads or Vicpol...

The randomish mobile highway robbers used to have a Vicpol officers 'stationed' in the passenger seat, reading a Mills & Boon...then they worked out they could outsource the 'service' so the officer didnteven have to leave the station to read his/her M&B.....

Serco, a multinational with about 10Billion in revenue....operates these cameras. Whats wrong with that? surely you can trust the mega-corporations!!
refer 2013 annual report( theyre UK headquartered, theyre the UK arm of the old RCA, now owned by GE..so refers to UK 'issue');

The events of last year are well documented: in July the Secretary
of State for Justice announced that an independent audit of the billing
arrangements of the Electronic Monitoring contracts Serco
operates had highlighted potential overbilling and in September,
materials were provided to the Serious Fraud Office on this
matter. In August, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) and Serco made
announcements regarding the referral to the City of London
Police of the misreporting of data on the Prisoner Escort & Custody
Services contract. The issues that were identified on these
two contracts should never have happened and we have
apologised unreservedly for them. May I take this opportunity on
behalf of the Board to make an equally fulsome apology to our
shareholders. We are doing everything in our power to make
sure that such issues cannot reoccur anywhere in our business
around the world. Our objective continues to be the delivery of
excellent public services with openness and transparency,
and I believe the actions we have taken and are taking will support
this now more than ever

...... so just imagine what theyre up to in the backwaters of southern Australia



As far as Kenny 'legacy' as they say, something about domestic violence???? This guy was in charge when that poor kid was beaten to death by his father, in public....I dont want to think about it, but KL should have resigned the next day.

and she should have also taken his black (no, they New York blue BS) uniforms, implemented to instill FEAR and INTIMIDATION in the community at seeing the dark uniformed LAW-ENFORCERS.

[Mich]

It is totally impossible to not speed in Victoria, even setting cruise control under the limit, and paying attention to the road (although your foots further from the brake pedal) sees you exceeding on downhill stretches. It's noticeably more dangerous on the roads in Vic with the number of people obsessing over their speedo's and not watching the road. Most locals around here are now travelling 10k under, which still leads to tailgaters and unsafe overtaking.

Sounds like a mess.

They're sensible with enforcing speed here. The speed limit is basically 'go with the flow'. If we're all moving the same speed it's fine.

If you're 5-6 miles over the limit it's no big deal as long as everyone's on the same page and everything is flowing safely.

[anthillinside]

Yeah, AND you can own Semi Autos and so many other things, you even have a Bill of Rights.

That's one of the differences between the "Land of the Free" and "The Lucky Country"

Well that's what they used to call Australia,

But in the end Australia ain't so bad, you just get used to the crap.

Doesn't stop us trying to fix it though, but we don't have a constitution + amendments that we can use as weapons.

[Arth]

They're sensible with enforcing speed here. The speed limit is basically 'go with the flow'. If we're all moving the same speed it's fine.

If you're 5-6 miles over the limit it's no big deal as long as everyone's on the same page and everything is flowing safely.

And you can turn right (our left) at red lights when safe instead of sitting there like an idiot for 5 minutes while no one is coming.

[nords]

Just hope the WA commissioner doesn't take the job, then you'll end screwed up like us

[anthillinside]

Just hope the WA commissioner doesn't take the job, then you'll end screwed up like us

Now you have me worried
I seem to remember that there was some one from WA on the cards before we got Christine Nixon.
Well ... cheer up things could be worse ....
So we cheered up and sure enough things got worse

[Supporter]

Don't worry, we seem to be doing a pretty good job of wrangling all the s**ty laws and keeping them out west.

[anthillinside]

And we really do appreciate it.

[whert]

Just make sure you check that none of the bars are getting rusty.

We don't want any of them escaping and finding their way here