QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

[pajamatime]

qld firearms owners, elections are on the 31st of January.
who should we vote for to best protect Qld Firearms owners and our sports.


http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/2015QLD.aspx

[sha]

SFP Queensland is about the only friend you've got up there?

[brisb]

Liberal Democratic Party are pretty shooter friendly. I thought they were meant to have a party registered here in QLD by now but looks like that fell through (or I got bad info).

So that's my plan shot.

[rummer]

SFP Queensland is about the only friend you've got up there?

Not even, according to the register list.

Options are...

• Australian Labor Party (State of Queensland)
• Queensland Greens
• Family First Party Queensland
• Liberal National Party of Queensland
• One Nation Queensland Division
• Katter's Australian Party
• Palmer United Party

[Releb]

It's looking like Donkey at the moment.

No clear friends there

[sbd3927]

Why would you Donkey vote? One of the parasites would still get your vote.

http://australianpolitics.com/2013/09/0 ... votes.html

None of the above should be on the list, and a re-election held if it gets a significant percentage of votes

[pajamatime]

Why would you Donkey vote? One of the parasites would still get your vote.

http://australianpolitics.com/2013/09/0 ... votes.html

None of the above should be on the list, and a re-election held if it gets a significant percentage of votes

how do you not vote for anyone?

edit: with that said, whether this is relevent I'm not 100% sure but here they are:

http://www.onenation.com.au/articles-ji ... n-firearms

http://www.kattersaustralianparty.com.a ... policy.pdf

edit: also the Liberal Democractic party might still get through if we help them out? http://ldpqld.org.au/?r=s

[sbd3927]

how do you not vote for anyone?

Informal vote, leave it blank, gets your name ticked off so no fine, and has to be ignored in the vote tally. That's if you truly feel none of them deserve a vote. It doesn't identify WHY you left it blank, but what politician would ever propose giving us that option? Could probably win an election on that platform

A few whiners jump up and down saying you are doing nothing to prevent whoever ultimately wins and have no right to complain.

But if they are all reprehensible, there is currently no other option, such as to the right to complain. Either exaggerating (or understating) the case with an example, If it was a choice between a murderer and a paedophile, wouldn't it be better to support NEITHER.

A system that has votes based on anything other than policy evaluation, is already broken. "My Daddy always voted for XXX and so do I." "Mr. XXX's eye's are too close together, I don't like him." "Mr. YYY kissed my baby and seemed like a nice fellow" Do we really need frivolous votes like that.

Only 11 countries in the world have compulsory voting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting#By_countries From those you can discount Lichtenstein and the Swiss province, Political awareness there means there is a well informed voter base. The rest are hardly shining examples of countries with human rights, having compulsory millitary service or high disorder.

[nords]

One Nation is back with Pauline?

Really?

[pajamatime]

i tell you what...we should draw our own box and label it what ever we want lol great way to protest why you didnt vote.

[Oldbloke]

i tell you what...we should draw our own box and label it what ever we want lol great way to protest why you didnt vote.

Did that once yrs ago. Voted for the local footy club. And I dont even follow the footy.

[Bourt]

i tell you what...we should draw our own box and label it what ever we want lol great way to protest why you didnt vote.

Ha ha.

Love it.

[pajamatime]

looks like i be one voting katters maybe seconding one nation.

http://www.ssaaqld.org.au/news
firearms policies update.

[1290]

Vote for one nation..... if all the other hate them with a vengeance it must mean they're doing something right...

Plus, it would mix it up a bit like pup have done federally..

Honestly, you have one of 2 types of premiers tomorrow;

1) One who doesnt know the rate of GST (my kids know the rate, and they dont need a 'coffee' to turn their thinking caps on.

2) One who will continue to strip away you personal and property rights while selling off, I mean leasing, no selling your state/public assets.
GO qld STASI !!

[disco2]

Unfortunately, voting in Queensland is not as easy as it seems.
We have a little creep who wants to sell off the farm.
Now don't tell me that' Leasing' s is any better than 'Selling' assets.
Lease your gun, car, house, wife and they will all come back 'f***ed'. In 99 years will you be around?
But, the LNP is at least 'tolerant', in the gun laws stake.,
So the question comes down to - 'Do you want to sell off all the States Assets so that you can please those electorate that vote LNP or do you want to ensure your gun rights..
Newman has stated that those that don't vote LNP will miss out.
With that attitude, can you be assured that you gun rights will be maintained?
It is imcumbent on the people of Ashgrove, Qld., to vote this little prick out.
We Queenslanders can always tell when Newman is lying- his lips move.
Plus the little prick comes from Victoria.
He will never ever be a Queenslander.

Cheers

Disco

[1290]

dont think you going to send him back here then

[disco2]

Nah. Wasn't thinking of doing that, Victorians are generally nice people . (apart from Alfred E Newman)

Was thinking of giving him a pair of concrete boots and dropping him off in the void between Victoria and Tasmania.

That should satisfy all concerned.

Cheers

Disco ny

[pajamatime]

katters and one nation were not even on the paper -_- it was just major parties, The Green nazi party and Coal miner palmer so in disgust I cast a invalid vote.
so disappointing =(

[Oldbloke]

U could have voted 1 pajamatime

or 1 oldbloke

[Newdave]

Wow, I knew Newman was unpopular but it's a crazy result. Does anyone have any idea of the implications on qld firearm owners. From all reports labor basicly released no policy's before the election bar the non sale of the electricity poles and wires. One positive is the Katter Australia party look to be in a pritty influential position. Strange times ahead up north .

[1290]

Its sad that the only choice people perceived was a socialist party on one side....and we all know the reds have done some great things with firearms and freedom, rights in general over the last 100 years NOT

while on the other side the decided to throw everything at the corporate side of town, and offer the state assets.. unfortunately that particular sector didnt have the numbers to vote them in.

We need to take the politic out of politics... this crap that you're bribed a bunch of sweeteners every 3 or 4 years just so the current parasite can get into state or fed office..... I dont know about everyone else but I'm over it, so should the nation.

[1290]

-So the greens are high fiving 'cause theyve had the best result ever.????....yet they've won NO seats! (thankfully) and considering they have NO SEATS in Queensland - message to the media;
They are irrelevant (generally, but particulary) with respect to the state politics of QLD and as such are entitled to no more media oxygen. No air-time, no newspaper articles etc.


other than that;
-The voters who went to the Labs from the Libs last time.... went back to the reds along with a lot of Katter voters. This result is not stunning as far as I'm concerned, the previous election was stunning, an aberration, this time 'we' have just returned to the standard false dichotomy of Lib/Lab... where the vote is split near enough to 50/50...

-PUP achieved 5% of the vote, from nothing last time. although they didnt take government, Thats still a good result for PUP.

[Newdave]

I'm no liberal supporter and I actually feel a lot of public asset sales in Aus have been pritty short sighted. So I agree with labor queensland on that.Though I do worry that the Aus public seems to be buying the lie that we can just keep spending whatever we want for today and forever without any consequences. Even a seven dollar co payment for the gp is met with hysterics. How anyone can seriously consider shorten as pm is beyond believe. We are going to end up like Greece the way we are going spend like drunken sailors then simply refuse to pay back what we owe and start all over again.

[pajamatime]

U could have voted 1 pajamatime

or 1 oldbloke

lol yeah I should have made my own box. I had thought about that after I sliped the paper in.

I'm no liberal supporter and I actually feel a lot of public asset sales in Aus have been pritty short sighted. So I agree with labor queensland on that.Though I do worry that the Aus public seems to be buying the lie that we can just keep spending whatever we want for today and forever without any consequences. Even a seven dollar co payment for the gp is met with hysterics. How anyone can seriously consider shorten as pm is beyond believe. We are going to end up like Greece the way we are going spend like drunken sailors then simply refuse to pay back what we owe and start all over again.

m8 I see your point, but people are just blank slats. we are tied to the 2 party system because either 1 its rigged or 2 people just vote because thats who they see the most and or the message they are getting pumped with on tv and youtube among others or both 1 & 2.

the process is no friend to the little guys and for the most part its probably because the people of Australia are thoughtless zombies.

[Newdave]

Totally agree pajamatime. I know on balance our two party system is probably as good as it gets but it does get frustrating when you can't trust either of them as far as you can throw them.

[pajamatime]

Wow, I knew Newman was unpopular but it's a crazy result. Does anyone have any idea of the implications on qld firearm owners. From all reports labor basicly released no policy's before the election bar the non sale of the electricity poles and wires. One positive is the Katter Australia party look to be in a pritty influential position. Strange times ahead up north .

its a bit crazy indeed.
on a side note i just read this article http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-01/q ... or/6060296

[trekin]

Wow, I knew Newman was unpopular but it's a crazy result. Does anyone have any idea of the implications on qld firearm owners. From all reports labor basicly released no policy's before the election bar the non sale of the electricity poles and wires. One positive is the Katter Australia party look to be in a pritty influential position. Strange times ahead up north .

its a bit crazy indeed.
on a side note i just read this article http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-01/q ... or/6060296

Just make sure you read the whole article, especially the part where Robbie Katter says they will negotiate with the LNP as well.
Either party needs 45 seats to have a majority, but in reality they need a bare minimum of 46 seats as they have to give up one of their votes to be speaker of the house, and to govern in their own right, and avoid a hang Parliament, will require a minimum of 49 seats.
What does a hang Parliament mean for us LAFOs, as someone asked earlier, at the worst, no change to the status quo, meaning the the ALP will have a very hard time trying to roll back the gains made under the LNP to the reduction in red tape at WLB. At the best, who knows, what with SSAA QLD dictating firearms policy to KAP. (And I don't mean that in a good way!)

[trekin]

On the other hand, no Premier, or Government has ever sent the State back to the polls for a re-election, and the LNP is still the Government of QLD with Newman as Premier until the ECQ call the election results and the GG is satisfied that a stable Government can be formed (usually on the say so of the out going Premier). It would not surprise me if C#n'tDo Campbell doesn't go for the hat trick of firsts and calls a re-election just to show us what a really spiteful, arrogant pr*ck he really is, and get another month or two's pay.

[1290]

Totally agree pajamatime. I know on balance our two party system is probably as good as it gets but it does get frustrating when you can't trust either of them as far as you can throw them.

we dont have a 2 party system..... we have a 2 party 'preferred' system...which totally obliterates all sense of democracy, when you can have more people vote for a particular candidate, yet the jumble of preferences gives 'victory' to another, and not necessarily the second runner.....what a joke.

You would think we have only 2 parties though.... any nascient political group with parliamentary aspiration, seeking to rock the lib-lab boat, to change the status quo, are shot down in quick time by the media, by the king maker in particular Murderdoch - he and only he decide on who will govern us.

Why was One Nation destroyed? if you read the papers it was because of the 'racist' tendancies.... when I beleive it was more so their financial policies the the big end simply didnt what to hear about. It would have turned banking on its head... at least on its side. .

[Newdave]

Yeah two party preferred, but in reality there are only two who govern. Oh I forgot the nats who have been the yes man for the liberals for years. Be nice to see them stand up a little more for the people who elected them. Might help stop them fading away into insignificance. Special mention to the greens for being the shot callers for labor these days.