QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jan 2015, 9:33 pm

U could have voted 1 pajamatime :thumbsup:

or 1 oldbloke :)
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by Newdave » 31 Jan 2015, 11:45 pm

Wow, I knew Newman was unpopular but it's a crazy result. Does anyone have any idea of the implications on qld firearm owners. From all reports labor basicly released no policy's before the election bar the non sale of the electricity poles and wires. One positive is the Katter Australia party look to be in a pritty influential position. Strange times ahead up north .
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by 1290 » 01 Feb 2015, 7:58 am

Its sad that the only choice people perceived was a socialist party on one side....and we all know the reds have done some great things with firearms and freedom, rights in general over the last 100 years NOT

while on the other side the decided to throw everything at the corporate side of town, and offer the state assets.. unfortunately that particular sector didnt have the numbers to vote them in.

We need to take the politic out of politics... this crap that you're bribed a bunch of sweeteners every 3 or 4 years just so the current parasite can get into state or fed office..... I dont know about everyone else but I'm over it, so should the nation.
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Post by 1290 » 01 Feb 2015, 10:20 am

-So the greens are high fiving 'cause theyve had the best result ever.????....yet they've won NO seats! (thankfully) and considering they have NO SEATS in Queensland - message to the media;
They are irrelevant (generally, but particulary) with respect to the state politics of QLD and as such are entitled to no more media oxygen. No air-time, no newspaper articles etc.


other than that;
-The voters who went to the Labs from the Libs last time.... went back to the reds along with a lot of Katter voters. This result is not stunning as far as I'm concerned, the previous election was stunning, an aberration, this time 'we' have just returned to the standard false dichotomy of Lib/Lab... where the vote is split near enough to 50/50...

-PUP achieved 5% of the vote, from nothing last time. although they didnt take government, Thats still a good result for PUP.
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Post by Newdave » 01 Feb 2015, 11:06 am

I'm no liberal supporter and I actually feel a lot of public asset sales in Aus have been pritty short sighted. So I agree with labor queensland on that.Though I do worry that the Aus public seems to be buying the lie that we can just keep spending whatever we want for today and forever without any consequences. Even a seven dollar co payment for the gp is met with hysterics. How anyone can seriously consider shorten as pm is beyond believe. We are going to end up like Greece the way we are going spend like drunken sailors then simply refuse to pay back what we owe and start all over again.
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Post by pajamatime » 01 Feb 2015, 11:25 am

Oldbloke wrote:U could have voted 1 pajamatime :thumbsup:

or 1 oldbloke :)


lol yeah I should have made my own box. I had thought about that after I sliped the paper in.


Newdave wrote:I'm no liberal supporter and I actually feel a lot of public asset sales in Aus have been pritty short sighted. So I agree with labor queensland on that.Though I do worry that the Aus public seems to be buying the lie that we can just keep spending whatever we want for today and forever without any consequences. Even a seven dollar co payment for the gp is met with hysterics. How anyone can seriously consider shorten as pm is beyond believe. We are going to end up like Greece the way we are going spend like drunken sailors then simply refuse to pay back what we owe and start all over again.


m8 I see your point, but people are just blank slats. we are tied to the 2 party system because either 1 its rigged or 2 people just vote because thats who they see the most and or the message they are getting pumped with on tv and youtube among others or both 1 & 2.

the process is no friend to the little guys and for the most part its probably because the people of Australia are thoughtless zombies.
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by Newdave » 01 Feb 2015, 11:46 am

Totally agree pajamatime. I know on balance our two party system is probably as good as it gets but it does get frustrating when you can't trust either of them as far as you can throw them.
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Post by pajamatime » 01 Feb 2015, 11:53 am

Newdave wrote:Wow, I knew Newman was unpopular but it's a crazy result. Does anyone have any idea of the implications on qld firearm owners. From all reports labor basicly released no policy's before the election bar the non sale of the electricity poles and wires. One positive is the Katter Australia party look to be in a pritty influential position. Strange times ahead up north .


its a bit crazy indeed.
on a side note i just read this article http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-01/q ... or/6060296
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by trekin » 01 Feb 2015, 12:39 pm

pajamatime wrote:
Newdave wrote:Wow, I knew Newman was unpopular but it's a crazy result. Does anyone have any idea of the implications on qld firearm owners. From all reports labor basicly released no policy's before the election bar the non sale of the electricity poles and wires. One positive is the Katter Australia party look to be in a pritty influential position. Strange times ahead up north .


its a bit crazy indeed.
on a side note i just read this article http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-01/q ... or/6060296

Just make sure you read the whole article, especially the part where Robbie Katter says they will negotiate with the LNP as well.
Either party needs 45 seats to have a majority, but in reality they need a bare minimum of 46 seats as they have to give up one of their votes to be speaker of the house, and to govern in their own right, and avoid a hang Parliament, will require a minimum of 49 seats.
What does a hang Parliament mean for us LAFOs, as someone asked earlier, at the worst, no change to the status quo, meaning the the ALP will have a very hard time trying to roll back the gains made under the LNP to the reduction in red tape at WLB. At the best, who knows, what with SSAA QLD dictating firearms policy to KAP. (And I don't mean that in a good way!)
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by trekin » 01 Feb 2015, 1:13 pm

On the other hand, no Premier, or Government has ever sent the State back to the polls for a re-election, and the LNP is still the Government of QLD with Newman as Premier until the ECQ call the election results and the GG is satisfied that a stable Government can be formed (usually on the say so of the out going Premier). It would not surprise me if C#n'tDo Campbell doesn't go for the hat trick of firsts and calls a re-election just to show us what a really spiteful, arrogant pr*ck he really is, and get another month or two's pay.
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by 1290 » 01 Feb 2015, 1:17 pm

Newdave wrote:Totally agree pajamatime. I know on balance our two party system is probably as good as it gets but it does get frustrating when you can't trust either of them as far as you can throw them.


we dont have a 2 party system..... we have a 2 party 'preferred' system...which totally obliterates all sense of democracy, when you can have more people vote for a particular candidate, yet the jumble of preferences gives 'victory' to another, and not necessarily the second runner.....what a joke.

You would think we have only 2 parties though.... any nascient political group with parliamentary aspiration, seeking to rock the lib-lab boat, to change the status quo, are shot down in quick time by the media, by the king maker in particular Murderdoch - he and only he decide on who will govern us.

Why was One Nation destroyed? if you read the papers it was because of the 'racist' tendancies.... when I beleive it was more so their financial policies the the big end simply didnt what to hear about. It would have turned banking on its head... at least on its side. .
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Post by Newdave » 01 Feb 2015, 1:34 pm

Yeah two party preferred, but in reality there are only two who govern. Oh I forgot the nats who have been the yes man for the liberals for years. Be nice to see them stand up a little more for the people who elected them. Might help stop them fading away into insignificance. Special mention to the greens for being the shot callers for labor these days.
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by chacka » 04 Feb 2015, 9:41 am

1290 wrote:You would think we have only 2 parties though


For all intents and purposes most think we do. As you know the voters logic is often:

Minor party will never win, wasted vote voting for them.
Don't like Labour.
Like Liberal less.
Will vote for Labour just so I didn't vote for Liberal.

Or vice versa.

People don't vote for the party they want. They vote against the major party they don't.

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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by 1290 » 04 Feb 2015, 10:59 am

youre right in that elections are lost.... and not won..

The thing about our modern hyper-interconnected society that infuriates me the most is that the party or leader who has the days support of Murdoch - wins.

The day that it was clear the LNP would not retain Govt; the papers were plastered with anti-Abbott messages. Abbott wont last the day, Abbott has lost the confidence of....

Its clear that the next federal Government has apparently been chosen already..... thankfully they seek to remove the great burden of choice from us....

That we live in a democracy, and that we chose our leaders is the greatest fallacy of our system. What is this democracy anyway?? is it when the minority select the rulers? The 2010 Federal government (Labor) was chosen by 35% of the people - that means that 65% of the voters DID NOT want them to govern. While the 2013 Lib Gov was chosen by 42% therefore 58% did NOT want them....... oh but we have the preferential system, what a load.
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by Klem » 05 Feb 2015, 12:57 pm

1290 wrote:oh but we have the preferential system, what a load.


That's definitely something that needs needed explanation given to the masses, or probably better to be changed as people don't/won't/can't understand how it works.

I suspect the majority of voters are aware that the preferences system even exists, let alone who their votes might be getting preferences too.

I suspect the majority think vote for party X = vote for party X and that's the end of the process. They wouldn't realise their vote is being preferences to a party they wouldn't vote for.
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by RoginaJack » 07 Feb 2015, 3:22 pm

1290 wrote:dont think you going to send him back here then :huh


LOL, careful for what you wish for as we're just had a news flash up here in Queensland ( The smart state) that the Victoria party are courting Campbell Newman to stand for the seat of Shepparton, Vic. currently being held by Suzanna Sheed, Independent. :clap: :D

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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by 1290 » 07 Feb 2015, 3:35 pm

Come on RoginaJack, your taking the pee-eye-double-ess now right??!!

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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by Westy » 07 Feb 2015, 4:09 pm

I drew a penis and balls and put a box next to it and put a 1 in the box!!!!!
Does that mean I just voted for Penny Wong????? :crazy: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :thumbsup:
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Post by RoginaJack » 07 Feb 2015, 5:11 pm

Nah, Ridgey-didze!

That's Wight n Wong too?
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by brisb » 10 Feb 2015, 7:56 am

pajamatime wrote:lol yeah I should have made my own box. I had thought about that after I sliped the paper in.


Next time :D
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by pajamatime » 10 Feb 2015, 8:21 am

brisb wrote:
pajamatime wrote:lol yeah I should have made my own box. I had thought about that after I sliped the paper in.


Next time :D


I got a whole bunch of little doodle pictures and or quotes ready for my imaginary government.
I'm thinking I will excite the crap out them by Putting "illuminati" with little smilly faces and beautiful flowers and stars and sh!t around it.

Westy wrote:I drew a penis and balls and put a box next to it and put a 1 in the box!!!!!
Does that mean I just voted for Penny Wong????? :crazy: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :thumbsup:


lol apparently more people draw penises and balls on their slip then any other word or picture lol
so I guess allot of people voted for penis and balls?
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Re: QLD Elections - Who to vote for?

Post by bawoog » 11 Feb 2015, 7:21 am

Wasn't this a shooting forum once?

What's with all the talk about junk :lol:
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