NSW Greens firearms policy - Discrimination galore

[ebr love]

The full version of this nonsense is here. It's about a year old, I hadn't read it before and man there are a few gems in it, I just had to share.

Greens points in bold.

The Greens NSW believe:
4.1 tough legislation to reduce firearm ownership

Not tough legislation on criminals, no. Tough legislation to remove legally purchased and owner property from law abiding citizens.

The Greens NSW will work towards:

13. Tighter legislated minimum standards for the refusal and cancellation of licenses, including:
13.3 Mental or physical fitness.

Physical fitness? Is this jocks vs nerds now? Way to discriminate against the physically disabled.

14. The abolition of existing minors' permits;

Sorry kids. f*** you, apparently?

19. A ban on mail-order sales of firearms and ammunition;

Errr, what? Show me where in Australia we can mail-order guns and ammo from to have it mailed to us exactly...

24. Regular unannounced checks by police or another enforcement body to ensure that individuals and clubs are abiding with firearm storage regulations;

Way to prioritise Police time. Lets spend all day driving around to places with NFI if anyone is home.


So all in all, nothing targeting criminals there and a big f*** you to law abiding citizens and their property, children, and the physically handicapped.

Way to go Greens, you're an inspiration.

[NukeBOMB88]

Goddamn this sort of crap makes me so angry with the idiots who are making this s#*t up! How about the physical fitness thing? I guess that mean the greens believe that physically hampered people deserve less rights than physically able people aye?

[valkyrie]

Guns in urban areas stored in clubs with firing mechanisims in designated police stations? Unless they are across the road that makes urban club use almost impossible

[Westy]

Come the Revolution Boys come the Revolution I'm driving the Guillotine and I already know who's heads coming off first!!!!!

[KWhorenet]

How do the Greens get anything passed as Legislation these days anyway? Hold the Gov't to ransom if the Greens back Gov'ts policy sort of like the Independents try to do?

[anthillinside]

How do the Greens get anything passed as Legislation these days anyway? Hold the Gov't to ransom if the Greens back Gov'ts policy sort of like the Independents try to do?

You got it first shot.
Thats wy we haveto get exra Shooter ad Fishers Party members into Govt
That way WE can start holding the B's to ransom

[Brute]

How do the Greens get anything passed as Legislation these days anyway? Hold the Gov't to ransom if the Greens back Gov'ts policy sort of like the Independents try to do?

I seriously doubt the average Greens voter actually has any idea about their policies.

They like nature and stuff right? I'm voting for them.

[Norton]

The Greens NSW believe:
4.1 tough legislation to reduce firearm ownership

I'd almost say it's surprising they're so brazen but...

Not a fact or figure stated as to why they want to reduce it. Nothing. Just we personally don't like guns so no one should be allowed them, that's our policy!

I can only hope we get a few more repeats of the Greens getting flogged in elections again as they did not too long ago.

[KWhorenet]

So does that sort of mean the Greens and their voters are rendered irrelevant? Nothing really to worry about... unless they get what they want from some other kneejerkoffreactionistvotegrabbinghysteriamungeringmediabackedarsehats with a policy that needs a couple of votes to pass.

Great.

[Spooner]

"Regular unannounced checks by police or another enforcement body to ensure that individuals and clubs are abiding with firearm storage regulations;"

Regular? Yeah lets do it every week! It was fine the last 10 times, but next time!!!!!

Some of us actually do have productive things to do.... Not just keep ourselves busy being dicks to others.

[KWhorenet]

Apparently Christine Milne likes hunting too !! http://thehoopla.com.au/ms-green-christine/
para 2. "She can catch rabbits.
When she was a girl, she and her sister liked to go rabbiting."

I'm guessing either with nasty metal jawed rabbit traps, suffocating neck snares, ferrets finished with either a twist/pull of the neck or a crushing head stomp.

Might ask her how she killed bunnies if I ever get the chance.

[anthillinside]

So does that sort of mean the Greens and their voters are rendered irrelevant? Nothing really to worry about... unless they get what they want from some other kneejerkoffreactionistvotegrabbinghysteriamungeringmediabackedarsehats with a policy that needs a couple of votes to pass.

Great.

I think I'll use that as an TEXTING abbrevation

[KWhorenet]

Just don't text that while driving

[trekin]

"Regular unannounced checks by police or another enforcement body to ensure that individuals and clubs are abiding with firearm storage regulations;"

Regular? Yeah lets do it every week! It was fine the last 10 times, but next time!!!!!

Some of us actually do have productive things to do.... Not just keep ourselves busy being dicks to others.

The Greens support surprise, warrantless inspections on the private homes of law-abiding firearms owners – but think drug sniffer dogs are an ‘invasion of privacy’!

[BRNOmod2]

I suspect that this policy, although pre dating the yet to be released Senate Inquiry findings, is being pushed into the media by the Greens, as a way to pre-empt the findings of the Senate Inquiry, as the Greens now fear the findings aren't going to be as they hoped - a severe lashing of all things firearms related - firearms ownership and all things firearms industry related in Australia and subsequent implementation of draconian laws. Standard Greens practice is to utilize the vast miss understandings of the general public of all things firearms related and the pushing of sensationalized statements in the media. I suspect the Greens hope that getting attention on this existing policy will confuse the general public, and politicians (who seem very easily confused) and draw attention away from the eventual release of the senate inquiry findings, that may well not end up being the "nail in coffin" of licensed private firearms ownership they hoped it would be.

[Newdave]

You do know who is the chair and who initiated the senate inquiry? We aren't getting out of it without at least a few extreme recommendations regardless off the facts presented to it. The greens will pull the Labour Party's strings and the way Abbott is carrying on I can see him going along with the greens and attacking us to save his own skin. I've given up hoping for fact based firearm policy in this country we have lost the public debate completely. We can't even get lafo to vote shooters fishers to fight back, what hope have we got?

[pajamatime]

Very unstable lot. we should set up a petition to have them screened for mental illness =)
The downside to this is hoplophobia (irrational fear of firearms and or anything/Tool that could be potentially used as a "weapon") has not made it into the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) YET!

[1290]

This policy pre-dates PAM!

And make NO mistake. These retarded-greens, or greentards or just 'tards..... are not about gun control, they are about DISARMAMENT; they work in true fabian socialist (<please google that) fashion by utilising the INCREMENTAL PROCESS of slowly chipping away.


First they seek to introduce the toughest barrier to allow you the privilege of just possessing a licence (tick)
Then barriers to actually purchasing what you are licensed for (tick)
limit the calibre - (tick)
Then they limit the magazine capacity (tick)
then the number of firearms (tick) [in various part you'll get a please explain after X firearms of the same chambering]

All the while utilising each and every opportunity either true or fabricated to demonise firearms in the community and lobby for "tougher laws to save the innocents"

The most important thing to these commies is a registration system, so they know exactly WHAT firearms you own and WHERE they are... very concerning when you think about it, and as far as the registration system to combat crime.... I would like to know if a single crime was either prevented or indeed solved since 96..

So the first phase was the gun-control, leading to the next one being the....

DISARMAMENT phase
What no? disagree? You think its the same thing?
The United Nation department is not called the gun control department...



How does it then go;
OK fellas, we know where the guns are, mount up, we're going to collect them now!!
and the cherry on top is that the database in which yours and my details are possessed - is an internationally available and searchable register.! to any signatory to the interpol treaty.!YAY for keeping us safe Johnnie, you treasonous little weasel, some might call for you to be ....##censored for national security reasons## Hi ASIS

[pajamatime]

I absolutely 200% second the above

[Carter]

Just don't text that while driving

They're sure slamming people for that now.

4 points and about $400.

[gherx]

The Greens support surprise, warrantless inspections on the private homes of law-abiding firearms owners – but think drug sniffer dogs are an ‘invasion of privacy’!

Spot the people who like to smoke a little pot now and then

[RoginaJack]

This is now long overdue for sporting organisations AND other political parties to seriously question the Greens on the costings and enforcement of their ridiculous policies.
Quick frankly, I'm over them; they just pull rubbish out of the air and the stupid followers swallow it hook, line and sinker, not one of them dares question the dribble that they spew out.
Cheers, .

[chacka]

15.3 Demonstrate safety knowledge;

Demonstrate knowledge?

That's f***ing rich coming from the Greens

[RoginaJack]

Revised March 2014

Principles

The Greens NSW believe:

2. Public policy should be underpinned by World Health Organisation standards and the resolutions outlined Australasian Police Ministers Council Agreement on Firearms;

I find item No. 2 very interesting as under World Health Organisation Standards does that mean that the Greens Public Policy will support guns being fitted with noise suppressors? Tests no doubt will prove that loud noises can affect the hearing of people in the vicinity and guns fitted with noise suppressors would prevent this.

Good one Greens.

[nords]

What's the bet none of them have read the WHO standards

[1290]

What's the bet none of them have read the WHO standards

You are making a huge assumption to begin with..... that any of them can READ they are collectively as sharp as a single bowling ball - their Senate spokesperson believes 'Sea Patrol' was a real life reality program...classic, she's so freakin stupid... and annoying , I reckon they keep Sarah Hansen-dumb on for entertainment value only....

[nords]

My bad

[Baronvonrort]

With 21- 21.1 where do they expect rural people to keep guns?

Do they have to drive a few hundred KM to pick up bolt and rifle and hope the feral pest is still there when they return, do they have to do all that driving again t return the gun?

I keep sending David Shoebridge ban 1080 petitions and ask where the greens stand on this cruel and inhumane poison.

I think he is slowly softening-
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/stor ... eir-sights

[1290]

How is she softening?? where in the story is there anything that resembles support for rec shooters? in fact the opposite.
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The Greens are backing the hunting of deer on the Illawarra escarpment as part of a move to get serious about eradicating the pest animals.

In what may come as a surprise to some, the Greens have called for publicly funded professional hunters to be brought in,[<that does not include you and I] legislation to be relaxed to remove restrictions on deer hunting, and a mix of contraception and sterilisation employed to keep numbers down.[<yes, they continue to push this utterly ridiculous, catch, sterilise, release idea]

Campaigning in Wollongong on Wednesday before the NSW election, Greens firearms spokesman David Shoebridge said deer should no longer be given game status for recreational hunting, and should be treated as a pest.[<not that they can be hunted by rec shooters]

He wants the scrapping of laws which prohibit using spotlights and attractant devices to hunt deer, and their culling no longer done on an ad-hoc basis by recreational hunters.

Deer's popularity as a target for hunters had meant strong steps to eradicate pest deer had not been taken,[<in other words theyre a problem because of rec hunters hunting them!] Mr Shoebridge said, and the NSW government's approach of allowing amateur [<the not very subtle use of this word amateur by the greens has the intention of painting RECREATIONAL hunters as less skilled, less able and of course less 'safe' than the opposite being of course professional] hunters to kill deer had poor results for animal welfare.[<because of course they have proof of this....not]

"We want to get rid of the artificial restrictions that mean the professional, skilled and humanely oversighted shooters [<there it is, as opposed to amateur hunters] are unable to engage in population control,[<not hunting!]" he said. "The best solution that's available now is a human RSPCA [<you know, the mob who control rabbits by flooding the warrens with grout to humanely suffocate and drown the rabbits!! ]-oversighted culling program with professional shooters, but that needs to be coupled with a significant investment in non-lethal control measures, because the non-lethal control measures are the things that work year-in, year-out."[<insert smily incorporating vertically reciprocating closed hand]

Mr Shoebridge said the cost would be between $2 million and $4 million [<as opposed to a $0 rec hunting program ] to get the program started over a number of years.

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The greentards will NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER support any activity that promotes shooting, involves shooting, guns, recreational hunting......

There are a LOT of generally f***ed up things they will support, the use of guns in the community AINT one of them.

[Chronos]

Had to laugh at this one



And I quote "There's no place for discrimination in Australia...."

Unless you're a LAFO

Chronos