Victoria Government Kills almost 700 Koalas!

[RoginaJack]

I watched this on the news last night and to say it sicked and stunned me would be a gross understatement!

The Vic. Gov. has canceled the Feral Dog Bounty program and replaced it with 1080 poisoning programs and then this came on the telly. Talk about Hypocrites - this takes the cake!

The Vic Minister tried to justify the killing and the Uni spokesperson " Oh, it's humane" RUBBISH! Has any of the dopes heard about relocation and planting more trees?

Read this -

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/0 ... ian-colony

Where's the GREENS, RSPCA, AWL, PETA and all the rest of the save the animal mobs?

[KWhorenet]

Double

[veep]

Faaaaaarq

[sarki]

The koalas were put down by lethal injection after being captured in trees in manna gum woodlands at Cape Otway, sedated and assessed by veterinarians.

WTF are they doing?

Capture, sedate, assess.... Then kill them anyway?

[Westy]

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And the problem with this is?????? They were going to starve anyways!!!!!!

[1290]

Are you... displeased about the Koalas or the fox-dog bounty ending or the 1080???

Koalas, I'm pi$$ed that those involved are so intimidated by the enviros that they did it under cover (of darkness probably), so intimidated by the greens/peta/et al tards who believe that wild animals ARE PEOPLE?!?!?...and even anesthetised them before injecting them!! Then even released the females after giving them contraceptives!! THIS WORLD HAS GONE MAAAAAAAD.

While a population of wild animals are eating themselves out of food, you leave them to starve out 'naturally, or SHOOT THEM, a quick "humane" death.

Again, the quiet majority, who are too busy working and leading productive lives, who are more concerned with their immediate environment (<-- not the trees in their backyard or neighbourhood) that is their household, their family, their lives....

ARE DROWNED OUT by the - ##VOCAL MINORITY## who are time after time given the literal soapbox by every flavour of media, airwaves, print social... and it translated to government policy.

So instead of shooting the 700 of 8000!!, they snuck in there over a year ago!! and 'put them down' 'humanely' no doubt while petting their heads....

If you've seen the trees there, they're stripped. I say HALVE the numbers but get recreational shooters in there!!!
I wonder what Koala tastes like?? kind of Eucalypty I'd guess... add a nice red..


Fox and dog bounty;

Fox and wild dog bounty (depi.vic.gov.au)

Photo of a fox in the bush

Foxes and wild dogs are established pest animals in Victoria. They cannot be eradicated from the state and require ongoing management by all public and private land owners.

Effective fox and wild dog management requires an integrated approach utilising all available management practices including poison baiting, trapping, exclusion fencing, fumigation and appropriate animal husbandry. Hunting can play an important role in supporting an integrated management approach.

This program rewards eligible Victorian hunters with a $10 bounty reward for each fox killed and $100 for each wild dog killed, subject to the Victorian Fox and Wild Dog Bounty Terms and Conditions.

The wild dog bounty will end on the June 30th 2015. After this date, wild dog skin pieces will no longer be accepted for reward. The $10 reward for entire fox scalps will continue until the end of October 2015, when collections will cease for 2015.

The most effective means of achieving a sustained reduction in fox and wild dog numbers is through simultaneous and coordinated community baiting programs, implemented at a landscape scale and supported by other control techniques.

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The scraping of the dog bounty, I've not yet brought myself up to speed on the reasons for scrapping, likely a bit of the above and a lot of socialist mantra dont encourage shoting anything... wrong decision, it wasnt costing us a great deal and was removing dogs.... 1080 , I neither agree with as a magic bullet....

Damn reds and watermelons .

[Westy]

I find a good Koala stew is great in Winter ,the eucalyptus clears the head and the throat!!!!!
Tastes like chicken of the tree!!!!!!

[Warrigul]

I find a good Koala stew is great in Winter ,the eucalyptus clears the head and the throat!!!!!
Tastes like chicken of the tree!!!!!!

I've often wondered what koala tastes like,





Quick quiz:

What do koalas wipe their arses with?

Eucalyptus wipes.......

[RoginaJack]

OK, I have many problems with this & some are -

A Government body, decides to carry out a covert operation and gets sprung and over 2 years kills 700 koalas and sterilize a number of females.Why the need for the big deception?

To me this smacks of gross mismanagement of the Koala population in the first place.

There are many areas in Australia that have low populations, so surely some could have been relocated, bearing in mind that these are wild and not park reared, so should be able to fend for themselves right off plus introduce a new gene pool..

Think of the logistics involved in running this secret operation! The personal and departments involved must be huge, along with the costs?

I can't understand why the Greens and Animal Liberationists etc aren't out baying for the Ministers resignation! Look at the uproar in Canberra a few years back when Kangaroos needed to be culled from military land.

Also, I'm not suggesting for a moment that the animals be left to starve but just feel that it's a total waste of a valuable resource and in this day & age, other solutions should have been found.

[Jack V]

It is hypocrisy at it highest level . However some veterinarian made a packet at 700 x their fee .
However Koala's are hard to relocate they are territorial and will risk their lives to get back to their old area and many die anyway . Even if the area is lacking in food .
If they introduce new ones to an already established group they fight and harm each other .
I understand why they have chosen to put them down but it is total hypocrisy that they can do this and it's ok , but cancel the dog bounty program .

[KWhorenet]

Wonder if the 1080 baiting is going to be done by already by taxpayer paid government employees or as usual contract it out at an exorbitant over quoted profiteering priced private interest?

The old "hey mate can you hook me up with a Gov contract for the 1080, I will make it worth your while too " type of affair like Council approving developers and being on the take...i.e. Traralgon Victoria.

[1290]

certainly was a wasted resouorce...... of westy's recipe koala bear stew.

As per usual though, it could have been done at exactly ZERO cost to the tax payers - 2 or 3 or 5 or 10 tags per rec shooter. Done.

I hope the $$cost$$ gets released, someone will have to make an FOI application to the department....I'm thinking, whats a ridiculous figure per bear, say $1500?? so 686 x $1500 = $1,029,000. Whenits someone else's money right!!??

On the other hand, and considering the Federal Gov has absolutely no authority to make laws for the environment, and neither should the states..... maybe 'we' dont have the authority to do anything...government or not

[sarki]

And the problem with this is?????? They were going to starve anyways!!!!!!

You misunderstand...

Capture, sedate, assess.... then kill them anyway.

What's the point of step 1,2,3 and 4 is killing then? Just so they can say they had veterinarians on hand and claim everything was 'humane' for political reasons?

They're starving, ok.... So why are they sterilising females to release them again if they're only going to starve anyway?

I understand culling a starving a animal population obviously, but if it's a problem just solve it quickly and humanely. Don't waste the time and fortune with all the posturing.

[Westy]

Funny how this world turns, Grandad used to shoot them for their fur to make hats a the like . They got 2 shillings for one but it had to have it's 4 paws and 2 ears to be excepted, they found the best weapon of choice was the 410 shotgun very little pelt destruction and very effective!!!!! Why use 1080

[meek]

On the subject of 1080....... Does anyone know, is anyone working on a better replacement for that these days?

Or do they just want to quietly use it and forget about it?

[sarki]

Why use 1080

I agree, it's about the worst option.

[Warrigul]

Let nature take its course, many will starve and the population will plummet as the food reserves are eaten back to almost un recoverable levels but it will take decades for the koalas to reach plague proportions again.

Nature finds its own balance eventually.

Simple and at no cost to the taxpayers.

[anthillinside]

Nothing new.
Sometng similar in Romsey ~30 years ago.
PhilipIsland ? yers back before the clymidia outbreak.
Koala's are VERY hard to relocate alot die in the attempt especialy if the i existing habitants.
Nature will take it's course? well yes and no.
Like it or not we affect nature to a greater or lesser extent.
We grow crops increasing food supply to both native and introduced species often causing plagues.
We control fire causing less frequent but more fierce fires.
We are what we are, so "suck it up buttercup"

[Seconds]

Nature finds its own balance eventually.

Simple and at no cost to the taxpayers.

Could be no cost and 10x faster if they'd let private hunters sort it out

And more humane.

IMO.

[Warrigul]

Could be no cost and 10x faster if they'd let private hunters sort it out

And more humane.

IMO.

Not very challenging, you'd have to pay me well to do it.

[1290]

Not very challenging, you'd have to pay me well to do it.

Pay?? I'd do it for S&Gs.... I'd wait for a busload of 'tourists' to arrive first.

[Westy]

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Why so they can hug the dead Koalas and not get ripped to shreds 1290

[1290]

No..... so I can be close enough to smell the horror in their expression as I destroy another ko-ali bear.. In front of then mwah ha ha

[brett1868]

Shooting would have been fraught with danger, imagine a bunch of hunters all shooting up at a 45deg angle. Sort of flies in the face of identifying what's behind the target and being safe. I'd break out the chainsaws and 00SG for the 12 gauge, solves all problems in one clean exercise. Cut down tree, shoot the dangerous drop bears with the shotgun while screaming "It's coming right for us", cut up the tree to fuel the BBQ to cook the drop bears. It'd be fun on 3 levels, Chain sawing, Shooting and Cooking with fire making it an exercise the whole family can enjoy.

[1290]

Shooting would have been fraught with danger, imagine a bunch of hunters all shooting up at a 45deg angle. Sort of flies in the face of identifying what's behind the target and being safe. I'd break out the chainsaws and 00SG for the 12 gauge, solves all problems in one clean exercise. Cut down tree, shoot the dangerous drop bears with the shotgun while screaming "It's coming right for us", cut up the tree to fuel the BBQ to cook the drop bears. It'd be fun on 3 levels, Chain sawing, Shooting and Cooking with fire making it an exercise the whole family can enjoy.

shotties make sense, but i dont think the kids would be very supportive of the eating the cute koalas part.....

[bigfellascott]

I don't have a real issue with them doing it if its needed, to me they are just another animal that needs controlling at times (sad but if they are sick and causing environmental issues I guess its justified).

[Westy]

Shooting would have been fraught with danger, imagine a bunch of hunters all shooting up at a 45deg angle. Sort of flies in the face of identifying what's behind the target and being safe. I'd break out the chainsaws and 00SG for the 12 gauge, solves all problems in one clean exercise. Cut down tree, shoot the dangerous drop bears with the shotgun while screaming "It's coming right for us", cut up the tree to fuel the BBQ to cook the drop bears. It'd be fun on 3 levels, Chain sawing, Shooting and Cooking with fire making it an exercise the whole family can enjoy.

I can't believe your avocating cutting down trees with a chainsaw!!!!I Bloody shocked at this idea!!!!!

[Warrigul]

Shooting would have been fraught with danger, imagine a bunch of hunters all shooting up at a 45deg angle. Sort of flies in the face of identifying what's behind the target and being safe. I'd break out the chainsaws and 00SG for the 12 gauge, solves all problems in one clean exercise. Cut down tree, shoot the dangerous drop bears with the shotgun while screaming "It's coming right for us", cut up the tree to fuel the BBQ to cook the drop bears. It'd be fun on 3 levels, Chain sawing, Shooting and Cooking with fire making it an exercise the whole family can enjoy.

I reckon they would advocate shotguns or .22's and low velocity ammo(think quiets, zz's etc, my favorite at the moment is CCI low velocity segmented- around 760fps at muzzle and a 28 grain pill-I think)

I shoot hundreds of possum each year (over 600 on this years returns, and that's before you count the ones I trap and I run a 30 trap line at times).

[1290]

I reckon they would advocate shotguns or .22's and low velocity ammo(think quiets, zz's etc, my favorite at the moment is CCI low velocity segmented- around 760fps at muzzle and a 28 grain pill-I think)

I shoot hundreds of possum each year (over 600 on this years returns, and that's before you count the ones I trap and I run a 30 trap line at times).

What do you shoot the tree rats (possums) with? I 'heard' 22 subs are inadequate.

[Warrigul]

What do you shoot the tree rats (possums) with? I 'heard' 22 subs are inadequate.

Most Subs are fine, but some don't expand and just go straight through which is the problem with high velocity.

I have stopped using a certain brand because of this. Subsonic powerpoints seem the best but at less than 10m in most cases a shot under the chin drops them easy, I've been using quiet .22's in the traps to avoid richochets and even found them to be okay out to 15m on treed possum. You really don't want to shoot them too close or the bullet just goes through which is why the quiet .22's are good- brainshot and they drop straight away no pain or fuss. I wouldn't advise shooting wildly at 50m when they are heading full tilt across a paddock but treed isn't generally an issue.

I book up five rounds per possum but usually finish them off if need be with a hammer so at most it is usually two shots max.

I don't really know how hard a koala would be to dispatch as I obviously haven't tried it out yet but I can't see any issue. I am willing to try if they want me to pay me but I think it would be like watching paint dry.