proposed Victorian National park lock-up / lock-out

[1290]

So it seems this is gaining traction, unbefarkingbelievable....

Given that the reds are back in power, and we know theyre bedfellows, the watermelons call the shots...

The 'Great forest national park' proposes to lock up MOST OF THE REMAINING STATE FOREST...t the outer east/north east of melbourne.. to save the leadbeaters possum????? wtf are these people on? This plan is so out there, so ridiculous, it will probably get through;

THe plan is to stop all logging, and stop all hunting. thats it.
Most of the environMental supporters of this idea have probably never ventured further east then Kew (note city of Melbourne is the single federal lower house Green electorate)



The Greens are undeniably mentally deficient.... this is from their website;

We'll create a new national park on Melbourne’s doorstep to end native forest destruction and protect the Leadbeater's Possum.

The Greens support the Great Forest National Park proposal, which will protect the diverse Central Highlands forests forever. We oppose all clearfelling of our beautiful native forests.

We will protect Victoria's trees, clean water and endangered animals.
Some of the most diverse and beautiful mature forests in the world are right here in Victoria. We're lucky to have them and we have a responsibility to look after them.

A new national park in the Central Highlands to the east of Melbourne will keep our water clean and protect biodiversity for future generations - from the tallest flowering trees in the world to the tiny Leadbeater’s Possum (Fairy Possum) pictured below (photo courtesy of Dan Harley).

Native forest logging is an ugly, dead-end industry that only survives because it is given access to public land and propped up with your taxpayer money.

The government’s logging monopoly, VicForests, plans to continue clearfelling. Now more than ever, we must have the courage to stand up to the woodchip giants and tell them to stop.

We will create the Great Forest National Park.

We will transition logging out of all publicly owned native forests, from the lush valleys of East Gippsland to the Wellsford Box Ironbark Forest near Bendigo and beyond.

We will take the loggers’ padlocks off the roads and let the public back in. This will bring tourism jobs to regional areas and protect the lungs and water catchments of Victoria.


One issue we have in Victoria is that all the lunatic asylums were shut down years ago.... so there's nowhere to lock these nutbags up....

[FuzzyM]

Goodbye to my local haunts. It would stop most of my friends from going camping anywhere local as they have dogs. It would send a lot of other people away from the area just so they can camp with their dogs. I would have to drive a lot further to go hunting, leaving the foxes and cats to eat the possums. Terrible idea in my opinion. Just ban logging in the chunk of toolangi where the possums are.

[monbeg]

The idiot greens aside, I think the parks a good idea, from looking at the map above it seems like not that much shootable state forrest will be lost by it.
seems there's still a s**t load of hunting areas in the east & NE of the state.
mind you I live over the other side of the state.

Don't forget that this is how these tools operate. They will get a small bit to start with and then they will engage their social media process to advertise how good a job they have done and what a success it has been.
The pollies etc will not want to get into a sh!t fight with them and before you know it the whole state will be locked up by sandal wearing mung bean munching leftie middle aged catlovers.

They need to be curtailed from the start, a potentially irrelevant piece of land is all they need to start the process.

[Noisydad]

The box iron bark forest around Bendigo is no more than 165 years. Photos of post gold rush Bendigo show that there was barely a stick to be found within tens of kilometres. Everything made of wood was cut down to feed steam engines and prop up tunnels. I wonder how much of the rest of this "old growth" forest listed for lock up is similarly young?

[Farmjer]

A first step in banning hunting with using the words "banning hunting"

[North East]

They are virtually suburbs of Melbourne....you blokes aught to get out more....it's a big state.

[AusTac]

There goes a sizable chunk of my playground, yet more political crap

[1290]

The box iron bark forest around Bendigo is no more than 165 years. Photos of post gold rush Bendigo show that there was barely a stick to be found within tens of kilometres. Everything made of wood was cut down to feed steam engines and prop up tunnels. I wonder how much of the rest of this "old growth" forest listed for lock up is similarly young?

You can tell its a 'logic free zone' when its got the melons all over it...... a lot of these forests have been harvested for damn well ever! continuously logged in much of it for over a century -cut it down replant, cut it down again in time = a truly sustainable industry.

Sustainability to these enviro-extremist is moving humans from the 'environment' and stick them all in the cities...look at what China has been doing for years, building mega cities, presently empty, ghost cities ready to receive the people as they flush out 'the environment'.... dont think we are doing anything differently here, look at the opening up of literally thousands of hectares of development land around Melbourne Metro in the last 12 years, trouble is housing is being vacuumed up by the imports, instead of locals moving into town from outside (the plan)

This is known as 'sustainable development'.aka Agenda 21.

[Oldbloke]

Kiss my spot goodbye. When the fox and sambar population doubles they will be winging even more. They must have a low IQ.

[on_one_wheel]

You fellas had better put together a petition on the Internet, advertise it on social media and submit it to the appropriate state government member. Otherwise the proposal will go " unchanged "

[North East]

North East Victoria....MILLIONS of hectares to hunt in. Untouched, wild and tough going. It's snowing at the moment up here....that's where the deer and wild dogs hang out. You will not see anyone else for weeks hunting up here.

[Oldbloke]

North East Victoria....MILLIONS of hectares to hunt in. Untouched, wild and tough going. It's snowing at the moment up here....that's where the deer and wild dogs hang out. You will not see anyone else for weeks hunting up here.

But, a long drive for many.
ps. You cou, d stop rubbing it in mate.

[North East]

North East Victoria....MILLIONS of hectares to hunt in. Untouched, wild and tough going. It's snowing at the moment up here....that's where the deer and wild dogs hang out. You will not see anyone else for weeks hunting up here.

But, a long drive for many.
ps. You cou, d stop rubbing it in mate.

Only a 4 1/2 drive from Melbourne...a bit more for you. But it's the bee's knees....it tough going up here though....not a walk in the park.

But the rewards, the scenery....are worth it.

[Oldbloke]

"But the rewards, the scenery....are worth it."
There you go again.

[monbeg]

D!ckheads who go around shooting up public property as in the pics in the link below is probably your second biggest enemy in these situations.
It gives the middle aged unmarried cat loving females something else to add to their armoury as they stare at their cat calendars at home and their cat pics on the notice boards at when at their work desks.

http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/ ... s/#slide=4

[North East]

D!ckheads who go around shooting up public property as in the pics in the link below is probably your second biggest enemy in these situations.
It gives the middle aged unmarried cat loving females something else to add to their armoury as they stare at their cat calendars at home and their cat pics on the notice boards at when at their work desks.

http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/ ... s/#slide=4

I shoot cats. I shoot wild dogs, I shoot deer....don't give me grief.

[monbeg]

D!ckheads who go around shooting up public property as in the pics in the link below is probably your second biggest enemy in these situations.
It gives the middle aged unmarried cat loving females something else to add to their armoury as they stare at their cat calendars at home and their cat pics on the notice boards at when at their work desks.

http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/ ... s/#slide=4

I shoot cats. I shoot wild dogs, I shoot deer....don't give me grief.

So do I and I think you have missed my point

[Sender]

Dunno if you've noticed 1290 but your the only person who seems to have a problem with North East. Something to think about....

Make him a Foe so you don't see his topics and leave the arguments out IMO.

North East, be a bit less defensive

Peace.

[Aster]

Mod time.

All the pointless arguments deleted.

Guys, if you don't like each other use the ignore feature as mentioned and/or stop going into the other persons topics.

No one comes here to read the same two people argue over and over. You each have plenty of productive conversations with other members on the forum, lets keep things there.

[FuzzyM]

North East Victoria....MILLIONS of hectares to hunt in. Untouched, wild and tough going. It's snowing at the moment up here....that's where the deer and wild dogs hang out. You will not see anyone else for weeks hunting up here.

But, a long drive for many.
ps. You cou, d stop rubbing it in mate.

Only a 4 1/2 drive from Melbourne...a bit more for you. But it's the bee's knees....it tough going up here though....not a walk in the park.

But the rewards, the scenery....are worth it.

The area up that way is really nice. I agree. I was up that way at easter.
I just can't afford to drive that far to go out for a regular hunt.
For me to drive to Bright and back would cost me approximately $120 in fuel.

To drive up to Woods Point and back would cost me about $45.

Worth noting that I have one of the most economical 4wds in our group.

Pretty nice scenery around Woods Point too

[North East]

North East Victoria....MILLIONS of hectares to hunt in. Untouched, wild and tough going. It's snowing at the moment up here....that's where the deer and wild dogs hang out. You will not see anyone else for weeks hunting up here.

But, a long drive for many.
ps. You cou, d stop rubbing it in mate.

Only a 4 1/2 drive from Melbourne...a bit more for you. But it's the bee's knees....it tough going up here though....not a walk in the park.

But the rewards, the scenery....are worth it.

The area up that way is really nice. I agree. I was up that way at easter.
I just can't afford to drive that far to go out for a regular hunt.
For me to drive to Bright and back would cost me approximately $120 in fuel.

To drive up to Woods Point and back would cost me about $45.

Worth noting that I have one of the most economical 4wds in our group.

Pretty nice scenery around Woods Point too

That one of reasons I moved up here....only have to drive for 15 min to start hunting....and a lot less hunting pressure than those forests close to Melbourne.

[Oldbloke]

"and a lot less hunting pressure than those forests close to Melbourne" All the more reason to keep as much as possible open to hunting around Melbourne.

[1290]

Dunno if you've noticed 1290 but your the only person who seems to have a problem with North East. Something to think about....

Make him a Foe so you don't see his topics and leave the arguments out IMO.

North East, be a bit less defensive

Peace.

I do have a problem with a declared GREENS voter - note she only dared mention it once, I noticed, maybe others including yourself didnt?,

Just consider what she's posting;

there's better hunting further out so its not so bad to lock up all the conveniently located forest.....
Its a suburb of Melbourne (so I guess we shouldnt be hunting there anyway...)

If it sounds like a troll..smells like a troll, as far as looks go, there's only another forum member around here who could confirm whether it looks like a troll...

defending the GREENS policies at every opportunity, the GREENS are a cancer in our society.

As far as Foe goes, if the other party used the function as kept away from 'my' topics it would be handy dandy too

[Sender]

So because he's voted for the Greens (assuming that's true) you have a go at him "at every opportunity". Not sure how you think that gives you the high road in the situation.

He's a shooter and hunter so has a place here IMO, regardless of his political differences to yours.

Frankly it is your problem, no one else is having these arguments. You don't like him, we get it, we don't need to hear about it in every topic.

Stop playing your part in the problem. Be the bigger man and ignore his posts if you don't want to read them.

That's all I have to say so I'm out. Over to you mods.

[Monty]

Both parties have been contacted about the arguments.

I consider the matter closed, lets drop it and get back to the topic of the Victorian parks or the topics getting locked.