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Canada abolished long gun registration

Post by Baronvonrort » 31 Aug 2015, 5:55 pm

I had mixed feelings on gun registration now I believe it's a costly waste of time.

Canada brought in a long gun registry after we did, they abolished it because it was supposed to cost a couple of million and ended up costing over 2 billion, it prevented and solved zero zip zilch crimes.

Here is a Canadian politician telling us how it happened,long video yet he will hold your attention it's very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbBezsr2PEI

Here are some interesting quotes from Canadian police about gun registration-
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/what_p ... istry.html

Firearm homicides have dropped to their lowest ever levels despite the fact they abolished their firearm registry,fatal stabbings have increased.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidie ... 1a-eng.htm
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Post by Pennsylvania Yank » 31 Aug 2015, 11:54 pm

Interesting that Canada did not go the "Well it's preventing mass shootings, so by that measure alone it's worth the cost" route that Australia has taken.

Canada has a benevolent socialist spine but with significant streaks of conservatism. Their brand of socialism does not seem to be a disaster like their relatives across the pond in Great Britain. Of course it certainly helps their society to have a small and relatively homogeneous population with a large land mass, and tremendous resources, that still values tradition and Canadian culture, and that shares a border with the US and not with Mexico.... Despite this, Canada's immigration and naturalization policy is far more restrictive than the US.

There does not seem to be a strong "gun culture" in Canada, yet there is a huge interest in sport shooting and hunting. I suspect that is the reason for the huge backlash against long gun registration. Guns are really inexpensive in Canada compared to the US, including Military Surplus guns.
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Post by wrenchman » 01 Sep 2015, 2:05 am

there were a few things that helped one is the police new id did not solve crime or stop crime tribes did not have to do and there was huge push back from rural areas.
it cost a lot of money and it was felt the money would be best used in other areas.
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Post by happyhunter » 01 Sep 2015, 9:17 am

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Post by Kipper » 01 Sep 2015, 11:06 am

Baronvonrort wrote:Canada brought in a long gun registry after we did, they abolished it because it was supposed to cost a couple of million and ended up costing over 2 billion, it prevented and solved zero zip zilch crimes.


Solving zilch crimes is the beef of it.

Spend millions on wrapping law abiding citizens up in red tape - read: taking a year for QLDer to get a license in the past - while criminals do as they please.

The people who will go through the licensing and PTA processes and get on the books are the people that don't need policing.

They should scrap it all and move those resources back into actual law enforcement, not just making things hard for law abiding citizens.
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Post by happyhunter » 01 Sep 2015, 7:42 pm

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Post by Pilch » 07 Sep 2015, 9:40 am

Holy crap :shock:
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Post by Heckler303 » 07 Sep 2015, 11:16 am

Thats 200 million that could have gone towards putting in a decent police force and border patrol, but no, instead they choose to blindfully waste Sh**tons of money on something that doesn't work.


Like certain communities around australia.....
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Post by Baronvonrort » 08 Sep 2015, 1:05 pm

Heckler303 wrote:Thats 200 million that could have gone towards putting in a decent police force and border patrol, but no, instead they choose to blindfully waste Sh**tons of money on something that doesn't work.



The politicians have created a perception gun registration works in making us safer so people don't question it.

A bit like cigarettes being taxed to $27 a pack, they say it's for your own good so nobody complains about this massive new tax applied to smokers,any other time they try to jack up the taxes on anything there is outrage if they cannot provide a perception it's for our own good.
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Post by Title_II » 08 Sep 2015, 1:23 pm

Cigs are $27? Is that true?
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Post by Baronvonrort » 08 Sep 2015, 1:35 pm

Title_II wrote:Cigs are $27? Is that true?


Yes, the government raised the taxes on them to encourage people to quit, nobody has really said anything about this massive increase in taxes because the government has created a perception it's for our own good.

I have a few family members who are addicted to nicotine, raising taxes on something people are addicted to is despicable IMO.
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Post by Title_II » 08 Sep 2015, 1:47 pm

Outrageous.

So who will be first against the wall?
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Post by Skadoo » 10 Sep 2015, 10:47 am

Heckler303 wrote:Thats 200 million that could have gone towards putting in a decent police force and border patrol, but no, instead they choose to blindfully waste Sh**tons of money on something that doesn't work.


It gives the appearance of doing something which I reckon is all most polies care about, as they know they're too useless to actually do something of benefit.
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Post by happyhunter » 12 Sep 2015, 12:34 pm

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Post by bigfellascott » 12 Sep 2015, 3:56 pm

Baronvonrort wrote:I had mixed feelings on gun registration now I believe it's a costly waste of time.

Canada brought in a long gun registry after we did, they abolished it because it was supposed to cost a couple of million and ended up costing over 2 billion, it prevented and solved zero zip zilch crimes.

Here is a Canadian politician telling us how it happened,long video yet he will hold your attention it's very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbBezsr2PEI

Here are some interesting quotes from Canadian police about gun registration-
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/what_p ... istry.html

Firearm homicides have dropped to their lowest ever levels despite the fact they abolished their firearm registry,fatal stabbings have increased.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidie ... 1a-eng.htm


What did you think Gun Registration was doing that made you think it was a good idea?
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Post by Lorgar » 14 Sep 2015, 10:21 am

The cost could be key here, maybe we can pitch abolishing the registry as a tax cut for the public ;)
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Post by sandgroperbill » 14 Sep 2015, 8:00 pm

Nope. Just divert the money to customs and domestic violence and stop the illegal guns coming in and being used in crimes and reduce domsetic violence.

I agree with the screening and vetting for new firearms licenses, but a fit and proper person for a .22 single shot is still a fit and proper person for a .308 semi-auto. Once you've been determined to be fit and proper, then that should be it. Use the money for something that will actually make a difference.
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Post by David Brown » 14 Sep 2015, 8:53 pm

Who was the crazy guy ar 39m 30 seconds :lol:

Registry problems;
Costs a fortune
Is inaccurate and not reliable
In Canada they know it cost lives of police for trusting it and being complacent
It delivers nothing
It is used by criminals when data theft occurs
Puts LAFO's at great risk
Costs the entire industry as much again (my guess)

Does nothing good as far as I can tell besides giving the ill-informed a warm fuzzy feeling they are protected by it. And they are not, quite the opposite.
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Post by Usurper » 16 Sep 2015, 8:55 am

David Brown wrote:Registry problems;
Costs a fortune
Is inaccurate and not reliable
In Canada they know it cost lives of police for trusting it and being complacent
It delivers nothing
It is used by criminals when data theft occurs
Puts LAFO's at great risk
Costs the entire industry as much again (my guess)


Registry benefits;
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The end.
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Post by Baronvonrort » 16 Sep 2015, 4:33 pm

bigfellascott wrote:
Baronvonrort wrote:I had mixed feelings on gun registration now I believe it's a costly waste of time.

Canada brought in a long gun registry after we did, they abolished it because it was supposed to cost a couple of million and ended up costing over 2 billion, it prevented and solved zero zip zilch crimes.

Here is a Canadian politician telling us how it happened,long video yet he will hold your attention it's very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbBezsr2PEI

Here are some interesting quotes from Canadian police about gun registration-
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/what_p ... istry.html

Firearm homicides have dropped to their lowest ever levels despite the fact they abolished their firearm registry,fatal stabbings have increased.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidie ... 1a-eng.htm


What did you think Gun Registration was doing that made you think it was a good idea?


I didn't think gun registration was a priority to speak out on while GCA and the Greens were telling lies that criminals sourced their guns by stealing them from LAFO.
The amount of people picked up with unregistered rather than 'stolen' firearms is evidence the greens and GCA are liars.

I think we have enough evidence to expose gun registration for the bulls**t it is.
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Post by David Brown » 16 Sep 2015, 5:00 pm

And most of the stolen firearms that were registered to LAFO's were probably stolen because the bad guys have nice shopping lists courtesy of theft of data from guess where?
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Post by coloradoboy » 17 Sep 2015, 12:45 am

still wouldn't move to Canada. imagine not having a firearm when you go tracking in the wilderness which I do often here in Colorado. I don't want to get eaten by some crazy left-wing hippie bear or die of frostbite.
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Post by wrenchman » 17 Sep 2015, 2:47 am

i had a freind that lives over by wawa ontario he would throw his trash in his shed he has come out to find bears pealing his sideing off.
I think it would scare me to come home and face that he keeps a shot gun handy.
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Post by Bark » 17 Sep 2015, 9:30 am

Baronvonrort wrote:I think we have enough evidence to expose gun registration for the bulls**t it is.


We always have.

No one wants to listen :thumbsdown:
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