Oregon Campus shooting

[Heckler303]

This just came in before. A 20 year old man just killed 10 people at a campus using an assortment of handguns and a rifle, injuring at least 13 as well. Bloody horrible act, and those families have had their loved ones taken from them by a comlete mad-man. But now, gun control in America has been sparked again, with Obama firmly putting his points out.

Not a good day for yanks today.

[winchestersx]

In a country of 300 million plus people, 10 won't be missed. They are used to it and freedom will be preserved. The question everybody needs to ask is why did law enforcement allow this shooting to happen when they had prior knowledge of it being planned. the shooter had posted his intentions on 4chan warning students that didn't want to be shot to stay home that day so there should be no suprise it happened.

[Heckler303]

Maybe no-one warned law enforcement in the first place before the shooting, because they wern't sure of its authenticity. Even so, anything could have been done to prevent it. But NOT gun control.

[Baronvonrort]

Was the security guard unarmed because schools are gun free zones?

Why do all these shootings happen at gun free zones,is that evidence of the total failure of gun free zones?

A video with facts the gun control people will never watch.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

Leyonhjelm has that video on his twitter page,click on the one where he mentions hoplophobes.
www.twitter.com/DavidLeyonhjelm

[<<Genesis93>>]

.......it's not the guns stupid.
It's the mental illness.

I point the finger directly at Hollywood and the entertainment industry generally for glorifying violence, all these parasite celebrity actors who earn their millions 'acting' in high level shoot-em-up movies and TV shows....THEN JUMP on the gun control band wagon.... then next week make another shooting/firearm laden movie...

....last but not least I blame the 'authorities who regulate then sign THESE GUN FREE ZONES!!!

If you wont to cause the most carnage, where would you go? to a gun free zone.

.....so Obumma whines about doing 'something'; what? Banning all guns? taking the guns away from the law abiding? HE EVEN used the Australian example, WE STILL HAVE CRIME HERE, still have murder and violence, less since the 80's certainly not because of the 96 laws... thats a fact!

[Sam45]

I think if you look at our murders, most are knives! When are they getting banned.

[Heckler303]

I think if you look at our murders, most are knives! When are they getting banned.

Why don't we ban murderers and murdering, then we would all be safe!

[<<Genesis93>>]

I think if you look at our murders, most are knives! When are they getting banned.

Several years ago they were..... at least vic.... funny that theyre still carried and used with ill intent

[wrenchman]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

[wrenchman]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

[wrenchman]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

[wrenchman]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

[wrenchman]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

[wrenchman]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

[wrenchman]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

[Heckler303]

Wrenchman, do you think that there is a mental problem in america?

[on_one_wheel]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

You can say that again !

[Gwion]

I think if you look at our murders, most are knives! When are they getting banned.

Don't give them ideas or we'll all have to buy some freaking Thermomix or RoboCoupe just to chop some freaking carrots!

Table etiquette will take a pounding when you have to chew chunks off your steak or get a licence to carve your Sunday Lamb roast!

Actually, from memory, the ABS and AIC show that hands and feet (no weapon) are the preferred method of homicide in Australia. Knives are next, then blunt instruments, then firearms. You still get the odd poisoning as well. "Other" includes things like strangulation.

And when it comes to knives, we aren't talking the good ones that are banned because they are too useful, either. The most common weapon is a cheap arsed kitchen knife in a domestic homicide, because domestic violence is the most prevalent form of homicide in Australia.

[Gwion]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

So, i take it you have no gun problem....

Sorry, couldn't help myself... thought the record was scratching a bit.

[pajamatime]

we dont have a gun problim here we have a mental health problim o yea and leaders that cant lead

oops you said that a fair few to many times lol

[Usurper]

I point the finger directly at Hollywood and the entertainment industry generally for glorifying violence

100% agree about glorifying being a big issue.

[winchestersx]

Point the finger at the people doing the massacres. Plenty of folk enjoy a bit of action on the big screen without turning crazy and don't see how movies or video games have anything to do with the actions of the mentally ill. Blaming Holly wood is as stupid as blaming guns.

[Heckler303]

I' with winchestersx. So I play GTA:SA, does that make me want to become a member of a gang and start shooting out with other homies? No it doesn't

[coloradoboy]

let me guess it happened on a gun-free collegiate campus ?

there is always going to be mad people / bad guys everywhere and at any time with the intention of doing bad, if one sits idly by with this knowledge without being prepared to prevent that, then an open invitation has been issued. governments and stupid people always think like this and that people aren't supposed to defend themselves. governments are always blaming bad people for committing crime when they should blame themselves for knowing bad people exist and not doing anything preventative about it to prevent innocents from being harmed.

god never said you can't kill in self defense - just don't murder them. god is smart, governments aren't.

[wrenchman]

i am sorry i dont no how i posted like that i have done it before.
right now the only way we deal with the sick is send them home and familys dont no what to do right now if you were to say i wanted to do some thing like this nothing would happen they wouldnt even check you out in most cases.
any threat should be acted on dont wait for it to happen.

[Title_II]

The truth is the problem and the solution to this are the same - there is no problem. Now, no politician will ever say that because it would be political suicide. So we live in a media echo chamber where opposing sides give opposing opinions of the causes and the solutions to the "problem."

Truth is, about 50 people die per year in the US due to mass murders. It is pretty much the least likely way to die that exists. We have 330,000,000 people and about 14,000 murders per year, just over half of them with guns. If a disease kills 50 people per year in the US most doctors haven't even heard of it. It's like if somebody got hit by a meteor tomorrow and we started panicking about getting steel plates on roofs of our buildings and cars.

It's simply political grandstanding.

[David Brown]

and divide those stats by 15 to compare to anything in Oz.

We had a mass murder last year in Qld, 8 kids of varying ages. Multiply that by 15 and you get 120.

[Eduardo]

And now they want Australia to boycott the US until we change our laws.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/1 ... -gun-laws/

[Title_II]

I'll still buy ADI ammo for $5 a box

[veep]

Blaming Holly wood is as stupid as blaming guns.

It's the "angry music" fault isn't it