Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

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Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by pajamatime » 19 Oct 2015, 9:54 pm

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http://www.owenguns.com/newsletter/owen-guns-bulletin-gun-law-alert-oct-2015-edition-110/
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Post by Eduardo » 20 Oct 2015, 12:30 am

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.
So question, is there was an Australian equivalent to the NRA what would it be? Does an organization even remotely resembling the NRA exist in Australia ?
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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by pajamatime » 20 Oct 2015, 9:48 am

Eduardo wrote:Interesting article, thanks for sharing.
So question, is there was an Australian equivalent to the NRA what would it be? Does an organization even remotely resembling the NRA exist in Australia ?


Your welcome.

on the NRA question...not exactly. Firearms council is working to centralize organizations so that they function together more so then apart but that's in its infancy stages. Grass roots movement is also trying to consolidate and move forward but it does have some people trying to demotivate us in that area.

I'm actually really starting to agree with other people that the enemy is among us and we need to shed a few pounds lol
If I was trying to soften my targets one of the things I would do is demotivate them and lure them into a inactive state...some people around here do that allot. Allot of them on other forums as well.

interesting regardless.
we are over coming it and trying to build a more NRA model which involves a very very heavy grass roots movement + multi prong approach. ^_^
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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by pajamatime » 20 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm

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Dear reader

Shooters Union is not aligned with any political party.

We want to work with any politician who is open-minded and wants to hear from law-abiding firearm owners.

In the past six months, we have been disappointed that Queensland’s Police Minister Jo-Ann Miller has not been willing to hear from us, or any of the members of the Ministerial Weapons Advisory Panel. This is despite the fact the panel was established under successive ALP governments, and continued under the last LNP government.

Last week, after issuing a media release expressing our dissatisfaction with the lack of consultation from the Minister, we were invited to a meeting, along with representatives from other industry organisations. This meeting was NOT a constructive meeting and left all in attendance VERY concerned for the future of firearm owners in Queensland.

One attendee was the chair of Women in Shooting and Hunting, Samara McPhedran. Dr McPhedran is a university expert on firearms and violence in our community. For your reference, I have included below her impressions of meeting with one of your elected representatives.

On 5th November, Police ministers from all states and territories will meet to discuss and agree on recommendations from the review of the National Firearms Agreement.

Minister Miller claims not to have seen the recommendations, and her demeanour at the meeting last week indicates that in any event she has no plans to consult with representatives of Queensland firearms groups prior to making her decision on the NFA review recommendations.

Please contact your state member of Parliament in writing right now and express your concern about the future of firearms related legislation in Queensland, and the Police Minister’s reluctance to engage with representative firearms groups.

Also we ask that you copy any such communication to the Premier of Queensland, Annastacia Palaszczuk.
You can find a list of Queensland parliamentarians with your local member’s details here:

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/docume ... emlist.pdf
Law-abiding firearm users and their associates make up approximately 15% of the voters in Queensland. Your views deserve to be heard and we will continue to advocate forcefully on your behalf, but we need you to contact your local member and the Premier thepremier@premiers.qld.gov.au if the detailed information below concerns you as much as it does Shooters Union.

We need your help and support!
Please, tell your friends, colleagues and family of our efforts. Please send your views to your local state member and the Premier. United we will ensure Queensland has safe, effective and sensible firearms legislation.
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Post by Baronvonrort » 20 Oct 2015, 6:06 pm

I like the shooters union, good bang for your buck in fighting these idiots.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 20 Oct 2015, 6:07 pm

" We want to work with any politician who is open-minded " :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 20 Oct 2015, 6:37 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:" We want to work with any politician who is open-minded " :lol: :lol: :lol:


ALL politicians are open minded!

....when it comes to multi-sexual-racial-perverted-animal-relations-cross-dressing-organic-lbgtf-corporate-big-dollar-small-dollar-anywhich-way-but-loose-come-to-think-of-it-loose-tight-doesnmatter-dollar-non-discriminatory-non-offending-open-borders-I-represent-my-constituency-unless-my-party-says-otherwise-my-conscience-vote-is-whatever-I'm-told-it-is....

But draw a line at licensed firearm owners... and their guns..
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Post by Title_II » 20 Oct 2015, 10:20 pm

pajamatime wrote:
Eduardo wrote:If I was trying to soften my targets one of the things I would do is demotivate them and lure them into a inactive state...some people around here do that allot. Allot of them on other forums as well.


No one will say that about me!!! :)

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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by pajamatime » 20 Oct 2015, 10:39 pm

Title_II wrote:
pajamatime wrote:
Eduardo wrote:If I was trying to soften my targets one of the things I would do is demotivate them and lure them into a inactive state...some people around here do that allot. Allot of them on other forums as well.


No one will say that about me!!! :)

I'd get on a plane and kick your wallaby when he isn't looking.


wait... your going to do what to my wallaby?
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Post by Title_II » 21 Oct 2015, 5:11 am

Kick 'em when he aint looking.

But that's only if people say I tell Aussie gun owners not to fight for their rights.
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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by pajamatime » 21 Oct 2015, 4:42 pm

Title_II wrote:Kick 'em when he aint looking.

But that's only if people say I tell Aussie gun owners not to fight for their rights.



oh I don't recall you trying to convince us into a state of inaction title. lol
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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by David Brown » 21 Oct 2015, 6:00 pm

JOIN SHOOTERS UNION :clap:

They are the only one doing anything like the NRA does.

I joined them and have rolled up my sleeves.

Get on board…donate a little extra to help fund the advocacy efforts. :thumbsup:
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Post by pajamatime » 22 Oct 2015, 12:36 am

David Brown wrote:JOIN SHOOTERS UNION :clap:

They are the only one doing anything like the NRA does.

I joined them and have rolled up my sleeves.

Get on board…donate a little extra to help fund the advocacy efforts. :thumbsup:



I actually like what Shooters Union is doing. I also like what the firearms council is doing in Victoria as a start bringing as many organizations together to work as one unit...I would love to see that expand to other states if possible.
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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by David Brown » 22 Oct 2015, 7:12 am

Get on board and get others on board as well. The banners are coming for us.
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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by David Brown » 22 Oct 2015, 7:16 am

Breaking news from the NFA………death by a thousand cuts is certain. I don't have details in writing yet, but be warned, there are some seemingly minor changes that will only affect a small number of folk. This will look like a fair and reasonable compromise and will be sold to us as such.

The fact is this will be the thin end of the wedge…….cunning move NFA…..cunning move.

Be ready to give your state MP's the biggest shake up ever.

I will post details when confirmed or if anyone gets them before hand go for it…..
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 22 Oct 2015, 8:18 am

I have little doubt the details have already been circulated to all attendees at the 'review'.... which the detail of the actual meeting due in a couple of weeks simply to 'vote' or otherwise adopt this crap.....I'm confident however that the shooters or otherwise interested parties will be sufficiently vocal, by the tie it come to actually legislating any changes; to let our representative know how we feel about the foxes determining the security parameters of the hen house...

If (when?) such recommendation as the banning of all 50 Browning AND related chambering, or ultra high powered (or how ever else they seek to describe them) chamberings, chey / Lapua / RUM / WbyMag etc....... It will be up to us to remind them there is no evidence of them presenting any additional risk to the community (or Airplanes!)....and no history of their use.....whether by lawful or not owners..
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Post by veep » 22 Oct 2015, 10:51 am

<<Genesis93>> wrote:(or how ever else they seek to describe them)


Just need to get the buzzword "military" in there and have a photo of a black rifle.
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Post by coloradoboy » 22 Oct 2015, 12:49 pm

I think you aussies gotta look at migrating to the great state of Texas. guns in socialist Australia are gonna be outlawed soon. your ssaa appear inept compared to the NRA.

As my Texan friend would say, "Keep your guns, come to Texas". heck, even those commie states like Ca and NY are miles ahead of Australia.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 22 Oct 2015, 2:54 pm

coloradoboy wrote:I think you aussies gotta look at migrating to the great state of Texas. guns in socialist Australia are gonna be outlawed soon. your ssaa appear inept compared to the NRA.

As my Texan friend would say, "Keep your guns, come to Texas". heck, even those commie states like Ca and NY are miles ahead of Australia.


If they ever ban them here I'll apply for work in New Zealand and throughout the USA , wherever I find work first I'll go.
I think with my background on the rigs , Texas might be the go.
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Post by Title_II » 25 Oct 2015, 5:50 am

coloradoboy wrote:I think you aussies gotta look at migrating to the great state of Texas. guns in socialist Australia are gonna be outlawed soon. your ssaa appear inept compared to the NRA.

As my Texan friend would say, "Keep your guns, come to Texas". heck, even those commie states like Ca and NY are miles ahead of Australia.


Texas guys need to take a class to carry a gun. And once they can, they can't carry anywhere! :D

 A place of business that derives 51% or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on premises consumption
 On premises of a correctional facility
 On the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private,
 On the premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event of interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event
 On the premises of a polling place on the day of an election or while early voting is in progress.
 racetrack; secured area of an airport
 In any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the court.
 *on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.
 *On the premises of a Hospital licensed under the Health and Safety Code
 *On the premises of a nursing home licensed under the Health and Safety Code
 *Amusement parks. Amusement Parks means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
 Public or private premises conspicuously posted with a Sign that meets these Criteria.
 *regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, in the room or rooms where a meeting of a governmental entity is held and if the meeting is an open meeting subject to Chapter 551, Government Code,
 Items above marked * Do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

Goodness gracious, might as well leave the gun at home. Better watch for no gun signs!

In the Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, we don't look for signs.

We carry in bars, we carry in amusement parks, we carry at school sporting events, heck, we carry at professional sporting events, we carry at hospitals, we carry at nursing homes (WTF?), and our courts are required by law to provide gun lockers

And the only people not allowed to carry at the polls are COPS!!!

No wonder we have 4x the carry rate of Texas, and more total people carrying than Texas, and more NRA members than any state in the US. We have more men, women, and children in the field on the first day of Deer Rifle season than Texas has people carrying guns. Our schools and businesses close that day!

You want to move to Gun Country, there is only one - The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania :)
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 25 Oct 2015, 6:16 am

Giving "notice under Section 30.06".....

Is that the yank version of the old "apply rule 303"??? :D :huh:
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Post by Title_II » 25 Oct 2015, 9:40 pm

<<Genesis93>> wrote:Giving "notice under Section 30.06".....

Is that the yank version of the old "apply rule 303"??? :D :huh:


That's a good one :D

I don't think Texicans like to be called Yanks, though ;) I kid, Texas is one of the greatest places in the world.

Yeah, the old 303 -06 thing. Americans just gotta be different I guess. Our fumbling moodiness and woman's prerogative to change her mind always pissed off the Commonwealth. That 7.62 NATO rifle thing was a real doozy! :)
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Re: Gun Law Alert Oct 2015

Post by Hinky » 26 Oct 2015, 9:22 am

"30 ought six" as they call it.

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